Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

My insider has given me this tonight:

Prices as posted by me last Sunday: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1202.html

Re: You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futil
 

I've seen you post this numerous times. Where did you get that price from? Multiple sources suggest existing customer prices have yet to be released.

Re: You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futil
 

Well said :D

Re: You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futil
 

Virgin ant put it on there site yet :D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Any idea on when these boxes will be available Nationwide , I really hate it when Virgin release in one area.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

They are going to be available nationwide from launch

Re: You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futil
 

Its in a press release but everyone is saying thats the new customer price.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Thats more like it :woot::woot::woot::woot:

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Cool really looking forward to getting my hands on one , Virgin state launch is in a couple of weeks is that right ?

Re: You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futil
 

I cant see us paying that couse we all pay anoth like other people have said on here today :):)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

The TIVO looks awesome and with 100mb internet on the way Virgin are upping there game , just hope they continue to increase there HD offering.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I sined up for it and got this back

Thank you for registering your interest in Virgin Media Powered by TiVo.
We will contact you again, as soon the TiVo service becomes available.
Then you can be one of the first to have it in your home.

Best wishes,

The Virgin Media Team

And i can put my V+HD in the liveing room :):)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

A twitter user (http://twitter.com/RupertBritton) claims to of already received and set up his box. Think he works in the media. Suggests to me a self install is possible for existing users and that they are certainly right around the corner.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

We will get more HD + SD Channels in the new year, the ones that are on MBs list :angel::angel:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

ive not had an email

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Did you fill this out >>>> https://tivo.virginmedia.com/public/interest

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Media Boy idea.

With Bravo set to close next month why cant Virgin Media Bosses do the following:

136. Syfy HD (Was Channel 164)
137. Syfy +1 (Was Channel 165)

Plus move all Challenge, Channel 4, E4 and More4 up one to make room for More4 +1 to launch on Channel 147.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Init, they need to move horror channel in to the movie channel numbers and put CBS Reality in 165 and CBS Reality+1 can go 166

One thing Syfy HD is on 165 and +1 is on 166 now :LOL: Diva TV is on 164 im not picking holes :D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

From the pictures released today it looks as though there is no eSATA connector on the box :mad:

http://www.techradar.com/news/televi...by-tivo-912071

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

But it does have two USB ports. One must be for something (hopefully not a £50 WiFi dongle).

EDIT: Just me or did the post above with the image (posted 5 minutes ago) disappear?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Will there be a software update for the v boxes, i am on the triple xl package what does this mean to people on this package? Cheers

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I hope MB is right on existing customer prices

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I think most of us HOPE that - we will just have to wait and see. Shame about the delay having the 3rd tuner activated though. :erm:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

They make generic boxes and then sell them to other companies the same with the V+ Box made by Samsung and SA. They have USB, I think eSATA and other stuff that isn't used.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I'm coming back to VM (V+ HD) on the 15th of this month.What type of box will I get ?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I registered my interest for TIVO but had no reply like DJ Switch anyone else ?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I got this reply:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I had a reply, interesting they want to know your region number, perhaps they can only distribute a few at first but get the coverage of whole region sorted.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I got the same reply....

Thank you for registering your interest in Virgin Media Powered by TiVo.
We will contact you again, as soon the TiVo service becomes available.
Then you can be one of the first to have it in your home.

Best wishes,

The Virgin Media Team

:D:D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I got the same reply what worries me slightly is on the tivo home page the date has changed to early 2011.I am not to bothered but surely they haven't delayed it already.

News Titbits
 

VM's bosses have just finished their presentation to the City, so here are some titbits of news coming out of that:

Main TIVO launch next year.

Aim to have 80 HD channels within 3 years.

100mb to be formally launched in next few days.

Broadband tiers to be upgraded next year.

More TIVO boxes next year with different (smaller) hard drive sizes.

A Tivo remote with qwerty keyboard alluded to.

Free calls from VM mobiles back to VM landlines.

A phone credit system. If you have a sub (triple-play?) to VM services, you can use that to get discounts off mobile calls.

Lots more TIVO apps to come, will launch with Facebook, Twitter, ebay and others.

VM director descibes the launch of tivo as "first rung on the ladder" "lots more to come in the future."

Should be able to watch content from different TIVO boxes throughout the home in January.

Ability to control TIVO and watch home content on mobile devices.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Some very interesting comments there not just on Tivo.

Looking forward to a Broadband tier upgrade for example as currently on 10MB.

VM really seem to be on a charge right now on features and capability, may not be premium TV since Sky will always retain some level of exclusivity, but on the rest they certainly will be IMHO.

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Thats already in affect. As I am wondering weather to get a mobile on contract from Virgin Mobile the blackberry £10 a month deal if your on virgin media. And it says free calls to and from Virgin Media to Virgin Mobile lines.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

May seem a stupid question but could the TIVO platform help Virgin with channel negotiations , surely the advanced search helps people to find the shows they want and these broadcasters want you to watch there key shows.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I'd say the "Pick of the Week" and the bar at the top showing images of programmes are definite revenue opportunities. Prime advertising slots they could be thought of.

Re: News Titbits
 

No idea about blackberry, don't have one and don't have virgin mobile either.

As I understand it, you currently get free calls from VM landline to VM mobile but not the other way. So it is new to gets free calls from VM mobile to VM landline. But as I said I don't take the mobile service, so can't say for sure.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Horizon: that's correct. Currently free to VM mobile but not the other way around.

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I doubt it would help with channel negotiations at this early stage, but into the future it could well do, yes.

Another remark from an analyst I picked up on was, he asked if the pvrs are too expensive and a waste of time, now that VM has network storage and VOD capabilities and customers should just use that. One of VM's director's responded that the cost of the boxes was "significantly less than £199" and still falling and VM don't see any need to phase out pvrs yet, especially as they're just launching a new one!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Customers like the comfort of knowing they have the recording local to them (network or VOD fails you can still watch) and VOD features do not match those of the PVR especially with Tivo "intelligent" analysis coming. Partly watch a VOD programme and you cannot stop and start later from when you last watched is just one basic feature mssing for example. A long way off to get rid of PVR and the network would not cope anyway I believe.

Re: News Titbits
 

Thats all gooooooooooooooooooooooood news woop woop :xmas::xmas::woot::woot::woot::woot:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Another titbit of news I missed out is VM are looking at what they call "Metro wifi", ie attaching wifi antennas to their street cabinets. They're running trials now, but are unsure whether to rollout yet.

VM's bosses said today that data usage on mobile is rising exponentially, and they are very keen to capture as much of that as possible and have as much of that data on their own network rather than someone elses.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Already being discussed here .

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...ay-virgin.html

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

All this TiVO news is very exciting, even the new customer price is cheaper than Sky's 1TB box and it does so much more :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

They aren't advertising slots. That's the "discovery bar" and they're recommendations based on what shows you like, not paid for advertising.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

That will be good :) :)

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Hmmm, Anime was one of the categories in the promo video.
This seems like good news... :D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Actually it's both.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/3706...o-box-unveiled

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I'm guessing that when we get TiVo we will be able to access the full BBC iPlayer via the app rather than the cut down version currently available via Catch UP TV and the red button. Anyone know any more about this?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Spotted this in Daily Mail today Page85 City Finance VIRGIN BRINGS MEDIA IN HOUSE "The Tivo Service will first be offered toVirgins 3.8m TV subscribers for an extra £3 per month plus £199 for the set-top box" article also mentions access to U Tube and social networking sites such as Twitter

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Lets hope that is not the existing customer price.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Its not just for new customers :):)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

The back panel of the VM Tivo box is very different from the US Tivo Premiere, in several areas for obvious reason and in othere areas to keep costs/complexity to a minimum. The pictures shown so far for the VM Tivo have no eSATA connector.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

plus £40 installation:mad:

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Will it replace the V+ Box. If so, going to be expensive for me as I have two boxes. Won't they have any "deals" for long standing customers.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

anything new coming to virgin this month?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Where is the loyalty???? :D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

If you want the new kit then you will have to pay for installation as each box has a built in modem because they have a dedicated 10Mb connection purely for the TiVo.

As with all new kit if you want it you pay the premium for the privilege.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

no its all 2 days old now

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Don't the existing boxes have a cable modem that's used for VoD, just not running at 10Mb?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

It needs to be installed, it can't be done on quickstart.

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The new boxes are a bit different because with the dedicated line you can browse the internet using the TiVo box without affecting the main connection in the property.

The standard boxes use the internet for what you state but you cannot use it in the way the new box will be able to, go to the home page and click the TiVo link for a demo.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Lets not confuse the issue - there isn't a dedicated line in a physical sense (where would it connect to on the STB as there is only one coax input). The 10Mb worth of reserved bandwidth (I can only assume) will use frequency on the existing coax entering the premises, so I don't see what else is to be done within the premises than a STB swap (providing the incoming signal strength is sufficient).

Am of course open to someone explaining why this isn't the case if my assumption is wrong.

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Any technical reason why this is the case?
Or is it more a customer satisfaction issue?
Or a decent way of making additional revenue?

Not necessarily having a go - just interested is all.

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Haven't read anywhere the TiVo box contains a web-browser - does it? Be interesting if it does.

Or is it the walled garden of approved internet-connected apps we have seen and read about?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

customer satisfaction, plus the installer will demonstrate the product. This will cust down on support calls and ensure the product is fully working and there is no signal issues.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I'd be quite happy to do a self-install and pay for a call out later if required, to try and keep the cost down initially. Would free up VM's field engineers to do something else too.

Won't happen I suspect, but would be a good option for those comfortable with the product and their ability to make the swap.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

see above ;)

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It may be an option in the future, but for now it will only be manned install. We need to make sure the customer experience is excellent with this premium product :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

usually added to your bill, Customer care/sales would be the best to ask once launched.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

According to Cable.co.uk this is a feature of TiVo that I hadn't seen before

"What sets the new virgin TiVo box apart from other digital video recorders is the ability to scroll backwards through the onscreen viewing guide and record programmes that you may have missed from the last 7 days. This really is a quantum leap in TV technology and will completely revolutionise the way in which we enjoy our favourite programmes."

and later in the same piece

"Chief amongst the new features is the ability to record programmes you have missed. Users can scroll back through the electronic programme guide up to 7 days into the past. Programmes are then retrieved and stored on the TiVo’s internal hard drive for you to watch when you are ready."

Source http://www.cable.co.uk/guides/virgin-media-tivo-guide/

If true, this is a really useful feature.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

It has its own dedicated 10Mb connection which does come down the same line to its inbuilt modem and has no effect on your existing connection which will still run at full speed.

It says that you can check your Ebay bids and Facebook so maybe no a browser as such but an App instead.

More information can be found in this link. http://tivo.virginmedia.com/public/apps_games

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

So a dedicated application specific to what you want to use, e.g. ebay, rather than an open browser. Just like iphone where you download your ebay application to access that site and so the same principle applies to the Tivo box. Building up a suite of applications users could download (assume it is a choice on the box) is a really useful and different aspect which will differentiate this box from others. It is more than just TV now but a central communication device, convenience in your living room is the message.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

From what I have read they are releasing early to current customers and some staff to get some buzz going, a bit of desire based advertising which in my mind is a great way to soft launch with limited stock. So considering that I think there doing all they can to make sure that buzz is a good one and they don't end up with a load of people moaning online about the service.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Sounds really good. Wonder how it would work though? Would it record from On Demand?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Not sure about that but if true it's the only way to do it.

I can tell you that when you do go "back in time" the programes available to watch on demand have a little "c" symbol on them. See below:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...010/12/118.jpg

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

spot on, but all the applications will be available without having to download :)

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If they are already there, can you disable them e.g. stop facebook being used or subject to a PIN? All will be revealed when the first boxes are running I guess.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Good question P.C. :)

I'll try and find out next week.

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Thanks, a parent may not want their children using facebook say so the Tivo box could be a way of them getting around a "parent ban" if there is no control for restricting access!!!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

If the is only one TiVo box and it is in the living room then most parents will notice if their child is on Facebook, but it is likely it will or can be controlled via a PIN and if not initially it would be shortly afterwards once the complaints started to roll in.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Afaik it won't let you record them but if the programme is available through on demand it will show you in the guide and be an easier way to access the on demand programmes, instead of going through the menu.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Thanks. C for catch-up presumably.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Seems to me that Virgin are operating the Apple business model, pay for fixing problems. To me I feel we are paying extra for Virgin to provide a reliable up to date service and fixing their existing problem with current equipment/solution. When you lease a car it normally gets upgraded after period time for free, you don’t pay anymore other than the usual increases through inflation etc. So why should it be different for renting a TV service, it should be update and enhanced as matter of course? Most of the features of the Tivo are available from Net TV’s, blue ray players, PS3, media boxes, xbox and Iphone etc for free. So what are we paying for?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

The best pvr provider in the world (tivo) where do you think sky got there sky+ idea from.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

My point is it should be free!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

None of those are free, also how much are you paying to rent your current equipment?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

It's a premium product, not an upgrade or simple improvement. If you want to wait for the free version, then you can do so.

The current product V+HD is equal to Sky+HD. The new product provides additional services. Not everyone has a PC / PS3 / media streamer and not everyone has them in their living room.

VM aren't trying to sell it to people who don't want it or need it - it's for customers who recognise the benefits of having such a product andf are willing to pay the price.

Like most things, in time this will become the norm for VM TV customers and will be well used and well liked. Finally something that gives VM a real edge over Sky (where available).

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Why should it be free? Virgin would go bankrupt in no time with that business model.

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indeed and V+HD will continue for now, so if you have it it's still supported.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

That's the point, its not, and never has been

TiVo just closes the gap (Ok, goes past Sky) that Virgin customers have dealt with for years. The V+ EPG is rubbish in comparison and the equipment is unreliable and antiquated.

The only thing V+ has over Sky is the extra tuner and VOD, and even Sky has VOD now (all be it a crappy implementation).

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I didn't say which was best (V+HD or Sky+HD), simply that they are equal products in the market place. There's not a big enough gap for it to be considered a problem or issue with VM. Sky isn't perfect either - I was with them for years and had problems.

This snow for one I'll bet is causing grief for many Sky customers! ;-)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I know Sky isn't perfect (again from personal experience), but I don't think the quality of the offering of V+ can be described as equal to Sky+HD. Maybe "equivalent" would be a better word.

I never once had a snow/rain issue with Sky, but know people who did. Guess I was the lucky one

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Everybody has their own view, personally the V+ is far superior to Sky+HD for me as the additional tuner is of high priority to me, would never have a Sky+ for that issue alone. Its all down to perception and what is really important to you, I have a SA V+ which is reliable and responsive so don't have the slow EPG issue others have had, so I suppose I am lucky as well.

Lets just say each have their strengths where the only one of significance to me on Sky+ is the better looking EPG and larger HDD, which will not be the case now from how Tivo appears to me + larger HDD as well.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Going to miss my SA V+ when I upgrade to Tivo

Could never get on with the Sky+ EPG, always found it inferior to the VM version being able to watch a channel while looking through the EPG

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

One reason I will go for this is for the brilliant Tivo UI.:)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Do you really think that VM will continue to fully support the older boxes, by that I mean thinks like improvements to the current epg, sort out the audio sync issues with the HD channels.

IMO the curennt line of box's will be left as they are apart from replacing defective units.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Your not comparing like for like though with cars and tv though. If you are tech savvy then you can do all of the above you mention across a variety of different platforms. The real benefit here though is to those people who quite clearly aren't tech savvy. It's a unified platform of content.

Being a long time lurker and infrequent poster, I don't get the attitude of some that whenever virgin offer something new it should always be free :dozey: I have used both Sky HD and V+ HD and I can say 100% that the user experience of using V+ HD is much much better than Skys clunky non responsive HD menu system.

What virgin are offering is content and a user experience with the new TiVO service. If they are paying to develop this platform then why should it be free. You do realise that they have had to pay to develop this platform right :confused:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

They will be supported until VM decides to decommission them. VM will eventually start to move customers over to TiVo boxes over the next few years.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

i must admit im shocked at the RUMOURED price of TiVo especially for existing customers who currently have a Xl TV bundle.
sure its a permium service but its no more a premium than what the V+ is now and its very annoying that the V+ box is end of life where the normal V box by cisco which is a bare essential (non premium) box is capable of having the the TiVo interface installed. this means that its TiVo for minimum and premium subcribers and the ones that spent the extra for a V+ box get a screw you or cough up.

i have Xl tv with V+, L phone and LBB with a 2nd standard box subcription and am no why going to fork out £199 for a TiVo box anytime in the near future eapecially with money being tight (economic downturn and all that).
it may be worth upgrading to a triple XL pack to get it but i shall see how i feel after Christmas is out of the way.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

The price for existing customers or customers taking a bundle has not been announced yet.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

sorry i mean im shocked at the RUMOURED price for EXISTING customers !!!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

**Stop Press**

VM's bosses have just told New York analysts that they'll keep the 1tb tivo box at £199 upfront charge while there is strong demand but they will scale back massively the price as demand decreases.

So if you want tivo, WAIT for the prices to drop!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Mods would it be possible to have a channels/HD channels coming soon to virgin thread.This thread is page after page of Tivo techy blah blah stuff now. Obviously it's exciting but jeez! All reference to channels is lost:(

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Why don't you start your own one? I'm sure it'd be pretty popular as many members have raised similar issues to yours recently.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Didn't know I was allowed to LOL, ok I will