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LondonRoad 20-01-2010 13:52
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
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Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 34948717)
I think you could on BBC red button - you could switch between TV commentary, radio5 commentary or no commentary - just crowd noise). Not sure if you still can
You're right. You used to be able to but I noticed they stopped a while ago. I used to enjoy listening to 5live while watching but for some reason the synchronisation got really bad that I stopped it. The radio would be screaming Goal when it would be quite a few seconds later before the TV pictures showed the actual action.

TheDaddy 20-01-2010 18:07
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Some people have no class, no loyalty and no respect. Couldn't he wait or does he really need the cash that badly.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...th/8469950.stm

Damien 20-01-2010 18:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34948870)
Some people have no class, no loyalty and no respect. Couldn't he wait or does he really need the cash that badly.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...th/8469950.stm
Probably staking his claim for when the Adminstrators move in and start to find ways to pay back all the people they owe money too. It's poor timing considering he could have done it at any time but if he is owed money then why shouldn't he claim it? It's the poor management at Portsmouth who are to blame.

Kymmy 20-01-2010 22:40
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OMG... what a game :D

Damien 20-01-2010 23:08
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What a night of football! Best of all Arsenal needing to win by two goals, go two goals down! Well, just have to score four then :D

sherer 21-01-2010 00:12
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well Liverpool are now only a point of fourth so looks like they will get there by the end of the season. I always thought the top four would still be the same come the end of the season

TheDaddy 21-01-2010 01:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34948902)
It's poor timing considering he could have done it at any time but if he is owed money then why shouldn't he claim it? It's the poor management at Portsmouth who are to blame.
He shouldn't claim it because it could well be the straw that breaks the camels back and forces them into oblivion, after the fans supported him and the club gave him a nice swansong to his career they obviously mean very little to him. I mean how many millions does one man need, there are plenty of players who are a lot poorer than him who have gratious gestures to clubs who have hit upon hard times, not old Sol, sooner he retires and disappears into obscurity the better.

nffc 21-01-2010 01:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34949059)
OMG... what a game :D
I watched Villa vs Blackburn, 'kin hell. That was classic.

Damien 21-01-2010 12:55
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34949149)
He shouldn't claim it because it could well be the straw that breaks the camels back and forces them into oblivion, after the fans supported him and the club gave him a nice swansong to his career they obviously mean very little to him. I mean how many millions does one man need, there are plenty of players who are a lot poorer than him who have gratious gestures to clubs who have hit upon hard times, not old Sol, sooner he retires and disappears into obscurity the better.
A loyalty to his former team does not excuse the club from honouring the terms of his contract. There were indeed some players who in the past took wage cuts to help their club but it's not the case that any player who doesn't do the same has no class, no loyalty and no respect. No one is saying he is a saint but it's hardly doing anything wrong either.

Compared to vast amount of debt owed to other clubs and the government the sum Sol Campbell is claiming is small. Trying to claim it will be what sends them under is somewhat exaggerating the issue. If they were recently taken over by a fans group/decent owner and desperately trying to keep the business afloat then I would agree with you but the sad fact is that it's going under and if it wasn't this it would be something else. They are in £60 million pounds of debt. They owe money to Liverpool, Spurs, and Chelsea amongst others and a £7 million pound VAT bill. So if they go into adminstartion it's not because Sol Campbell is claiming £1.7 million.

TheDaddy 21-01-2010 13:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34949329)
A loyalty to his former team does not excuse the club from honouring the terms of his contract. There were indeed some players who in the past took wage cuts to help their club but it's not the case that any player who doesn't do the same has no class, no loyalty and no respect. No one is saying he is a saint but it's hardly doing anything wrong either.
Where's the loyalty to his former team mates whom he may be consigning to the dole queue, where's the class when players from Stockport and the like give up their signing on fees when they move on to help the club and lets not even bring up respect, we know how much of that he has by his past behaviour. Imo Sol is the living representation of everything that is wrong with the game today and with a bit of luck he'll spend the rest of his career roting in Arsenal's reserves before fading away into obscurity.

LondonRoad 21-01-2010 13:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34949150)
I watched Villa vs Blackburn, 'kin hell. That was classic.
Had 0-0 written all over it. :D

It was a pity about the red card though. (although it was a stonewaller). It killed the game as a contest. Even if it was 2-2 at half time I think Blackburn would have had a chance if they'd still had 11 players on the park.

Damien 21-01-2010 13:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34949373)
Where's the loyalty to his former team mates whom he may be consigning to the dole queue, where's the class when players from Stockport and the like give up their signing on fees when they move on to help the club and lets not even bring up respect, we know how much of that he has by his past behaviour. Imo Sol is the living representation of everything that is wrong with the game today and with a bit of luck he'll spend the rest of his career roting in Arsenal's reserves before fading away into obscurity.
His teammates will be picked up by other clubs and he is not consigning them to the dole queue, The mismanagement at Portsmouth is. As I said before, it's not fair to blame the impending administration at Portsmouth on Campbell. Even if he didn't claim this money they are on course to go under.

By your logic why don't the players give up part of their entitlement? At the moment they are getting exactly what they are entitled to by the terms of their contracts. The player on 80k a week should offer to half that at least shouldn't he? Where is the condemnation for them.

This seems more a stick for which you have chosen to beat Sol Campbell with. The continued attempt to claim that he will be putting the club in administration and causing the players to be unemployed proves this to me. Yes Sol is obviously highly motivated by money but let's be realistic into what's going on at Portsmouth and not place the blame on scapegoats.

TheDaddy 21-01-2010 14:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34949379)
His teammates will be picked up by other clubs and he is not consigning them to the dole queue, The mismanagement at Portsmouth is.
Do you know how many players get released each year never to kick a ball professionally again? No thought not, it's hundreds, every year, so yes he will be helping to consign a lot of them to the dole queue. No one has said their hasn't been prior missmanagement of resources, what's been said is Campbell isn't helping.

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As I said before, it's not fair to blame the impending administration at Portsmouth on Campbell. Even if he didn't claim this money they are on course to go under.
Actually they have come to agreements with other clubs over transfer debts and I'd imagine an agreement will be reached over VAT.

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By your logic why don't the players give up part of their entitlement? At the moment they are getting exactly what they are entitled to by the terms of their contracts. The player on 80k a week should offer to half that at least shouldn't he? Where is the condemnation for them.
Do you even know who plays for Portsmouth these days? How many of their players do you think are on 80k a week? The only one who comes remotely close is David James and he is soon to be given away

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This seems more a stick for which you have chosen to beat Sol Campbell with.
To right I am beating him up over this, he is bang out of order imo

Damien 21-01-2010 14:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34949408)
Do you know how many players get released each year never to kick a ball professionally again? No thought not, it's hundreds, every year, so yes he will be helping to consign a lot of them to the dole queue. No one has said their hasn't been prior missmanagement of resources, what's been said is Campbell isn't helping.
Campbell's claim to small fry compared to the rest. We're talking about a Premiership club, most players will find other clubs and if they don't find a club anywhere willing to take them then maybe Portsmouth shouldn't have had them on their books in the first place.

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Actually they have come to agreements with other clubs over transfer debts and I'd imagine an agreement will be reached over VAT.
So they claim but have yet to submit the evidence the Premier League require in order to release their share of the TV money. For example Udinese are claiming £4m in unpaid transfer fees.

We'll see what happens about the VAT come the court case for the winding up order.

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Do you even know who plays for Portsmouth these days? How many of their players do you think are on 80k a week? The only one who comes remotely close is David James and he is soon to be given away
John Utaka is on 80k a week and David James is close. More evidence of the poor management.

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To right I am beating him up over this, he is bang out of order imo
He is asking them to honour the debt they contractually owe him same as every other player at the club expects to be paid.

TheDaddy 21-01-2010 14:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34949414)
Campbell's claim to small fry compared to the rest. We're talking about a Premiership club, most players will find other clubs and if they don't find a club anywhere willing to take them then maybe Portsmouth shouldn't have had them on their books in the first place.
Portsmouth only had 13 players at one stage pre season, they needed to bring some in just to make up the numbers, the likes of Danny Webber will struggle if released.

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John Utaka is on 80k a week and David James is close. More evidence of the poor management.
One then possibly and at the time they were signed it wasn't poor management, which really gets to the crux of all their problems, I think the fans are entitled to ask what's happened to all the cash, I mean 25 million for Diarra, 17 for Johnson, 15 for Muntari, Defoe, Crouch, Distan and Krankjar went for millions, all the tv cash and they are still 60 million in debt, something doesn't add up even taking high wages into account, I know Gaydemak invested a lot but how much did he take with him when he left?

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He is asking them to honour the debt they contractually owe him same as every other player at the club expects to be paid
They might expect it but it's been 3 times now that they haven't been....

sherer 21-01-2010 14:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 34949377)
Had 0-0 written all over it. :D

It was a pity about the red card though. (although it was a stonewaller). It killed the game as a contest. Even if it was 2-2 at half time I think Blackburn would have had a chance if they'd still had 11 players on the park.
to be honest I didn't view it as a pen or a sending off. I think it was Samba who slide in and went for the ball and missed the ball by a less than an inch. The Villa player then fell over his legs. At no point did the Blackburn player kit or attempt to foul the Villa player.

This is the whole reason we have so much cheating and diving going on because a defender player football and someone falls over him we get a pen. A few years ago this would be a talking point at most and a decade before that it wouldn't even have made MOTD.

It is a physical game and to send someone off for going for the ball and not fouling anyone is rediculous

LondonRoad 21-01-2010 15:02
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It was a foul inside the box so it was a penalty. He may have tried to nick the ball, but stretching from that angle he's always going to make contact with the player, and importantly, he got no touch on the ball. . Agbonalahor had forward momentum and was setting himself to shoot so there was no way he could have avoided making contact with Samba, or stayed on his feet.

By present interpretations Samba was last man and denied a goalscoring opportunity so it had to be Red.

I think the penalty is punishment enough in situations like last night. IMHO the Red card should be retained for the truly professional type of foul.

sherer 21-01-2010 15:06
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the thing is the defender didn't make any contact with the attacker at all. The contact was from the attacker to the defender which is different. At best that would be obstruction, which I believe inside the box would still be a indirect free kick and not a penalty.

It is this sort of decision that leads to all the cheating going on instead of just getting on with playing football.

A generation of people is growing up listening to ex pros saying this and that are fouls and penalties when they know full well the players are cheating, exaggerating contact, or just falling over a defender.

Damien 21-01-2010 15:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34949424)
Portsmouth only had 13 players at one stage pre season, they needed to bring some in just to make up the numbers, the likes of Danny Webber will struggle if released.
It's sad for people like him then but in the end if there really is no team to pick him up then he won't be long at Portsmouth either.

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One then possibly and at the time they were signed it wasn't poor management, which really gets to the crux of all their problems, I think the fans are entitled to ask what's happened to all the cash, I mean 25 million for Diarra, 17 for Johnson, 15 for Muntari, Defoe, Crouch, Distan and Krankjar went for millions, all the tv cash and they are still 60 million in debt, something doesn't add up even taking high wages into account, I know Gaydemak invested a lot but how much did he take with him when he left?
They are indeed entitled and they should be questioning the role Peter Storrie has played in these events. He seems to have been there constantly and had a part in this financial collapse. One possibility is they simply lacked the resources to pay for the amount of players such as Defoe, Crouch and the aforementioned Utaka they bought. Fratton Park only holds 20,000 people for example yet they were purchasing players well outside what should have been their target for a club that size.

You right though, they got massive fees from some of their transfers. Heaven knows where it all went.


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They might expect it but it's been 3 times now that they haven't been....
Each time they were eventually. The longest being last month when they waited over a week. Rumour is that this month they will simply not be able to do it at all. Be interesting to see what happens then.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34949438)
A generation of people is growing up listening to ex pros saying this and that are fouls and penalties when they know full well the players are cheating, exaggerating contact, or just falling over a defender.
Van Persie made a point that players often 'dive' in the area because they have been unfairly obstructed by a defender. A defender will commit a light foul which slows the attacker thus stopping a break and denying a chance at goal. Either light shirt-pulling/arm pulling-catching the back of the attackers foot and so on. It's easy for a player to stay on his feet but it's less likely the penalty will be awarded so they go down to make it obvious they were fouled.

TheDaddy 21-01-2010 19:32
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1758 GMT: Carlos Tevez shows no sign of letting up in his feud with Gary Neville as he describes his former Manchester United team-mate as a "boot-licking moron".
"My celebration was directed at Gary Neville," Tevez was quoted as saying in a radio interview with ESPN Argentina. "He acted like a complete sock-sucker [boot-licker] when he said I wasn't worth £25m just to suck up to the manager.
"What's the tarado [moron] talking about me for when I never said anything about him."
Full story: mtnfootball

:rofl:

Damien 21-01-2010 19:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34949579)
1758 GMT: Carlos Tevez shows no sign of letting up in his feud with Gary Neville as he describes his former Manchester United team-mate as a "boot-licking moron".
"My celebration was directed at Gary Neville," Tevez was quoted as saying in a radio interview with ESPN Argentina. "He acted like a complete sock-sucker [boot-licker] when he said I wasn't worth £25m just to suck up to the manager.
"What's the tarado [moron] talking about me for when I never said anything about him."
Full story: mtnfootball

:rofl:
Sock-Sucker? Translated correctly or......:erm:

TheDaddy 21-01-2010 21:11
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We have offered Ruud van Nistelrooy a 100k a week....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/8473694.stm

Damien 21-01-2010 21:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34949655)
We have offered Ruud van Nistelrooy a 100k a week....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/8473694.stm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

Looks like the new owners have money to burn! Not that he is a bad player but 100k a week :p:

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West Ham will stay up. Just loan a couple of players. The other teams around them are much weaker.

yesman 22-01-2010 00:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34949664)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

Looks like the new owners have money to burn! Not that he is a bad player but 100k a week :p:
It's not as daft as you might think, Utd could do with him now.

punky 22-01-2010 00:41
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Good to see Gold and Sullivan are learning from WHU's and Pompey's previous mistakes by saying they have £110m debt and then offering a 33 year old £100k/week wages.

Anyway academic as he has supposedly signed for Hamburg now

TheDon 22-01-2010 01:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34949438)
the thing is the defender didn't make any contact with the attacker at all. The contact was from the attacker to the defender which is different. At best that would be obstruction, which I believe inside the box would still be a indirect free kick and not a penalty.

It is this sort of decision that leads to all the cheating going on instead of just getting on with playing football.

A generation of people is growing up listening to ex pros saying this and that are fouls and penalties when they know full well the players are cheating, exaggerating contact, or just falling over a defender.
I suggest you go look at a GCSE science book, specifically the section on momentum.

There is no way Agbonlahor could have avoided being taken out by Samba. He does not have eyes in the back of his head, the first he'll have known about it is is when Samba's foot was wrapped round his leg. He had no need to go down, he was through on goal, one on one with the keeper. He was either scoring or being taken out, Samba took him out.

It was a stone wall penalty, and obvious red card. You'll never get a more clear cut decision.

sherer 22-01-2010 10:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34949655)
We have offered Ruud van Nistelrooy a 100k a week....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/8473694.stm
I also read that Stoke have had an offer accepted by Real.

He was a great player for us and wish we had someone like him at the club now. Would rather Ruud than the donkey anyway

punky 22-01-2010 12:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 34949788)
Good to see Gold and Sullivan are learning from WHU's and Pompey's previous mistakes by saying they have £110m debt and then offering a 33 year old £100k/week wages.

Anyway academic as he has supposedly signed for Hamburg now
DM are only 11 hours behind this time, bless 'em

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...rg-switch.html

Derek 24-01-2010 00:30
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Ouch.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6999775.ece

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Manchester United’s controversial bond issue has cost the Premier League football club £54m, it emerged this weekend.
While I'm still amazed that takeovers Glazer style are allowed at all this is staggering, paying out 54 mil and still having a whacking great interest payments each year. I can see them having big problems in the near future.

yesman 24-01-2010 10:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34950834)
Ouch.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6999775.ece



While I'm still amazed that takeovers Glazer style are allowed at all this is staggering, paying out 54 mil and still having a whacking great interest payments each year. I can see them having big problems in the near future.
The sooner those leeches are out of Old Trafford the better :mad:

Damien 24-01-2010 11:17
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United need to do something fast because the people who run the club are going to destory it. £720 million debt!

Damien 24-01-2010 16:21
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Arsenal out as well. Fair enough if Wenger wanted to rest a lot of his team but we need better defenders as back up.

Russ 24-01-2010 16:27
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What a bizarre season this is turning out to be. I'll be glad to see the back of it.

Damien 24-01-2010 16:46
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At least Campbell did well but the rest of the defensive was awful. Walcott!? Terrible. Stoke fully and utterly deserved their win. I won't say Wenger was wrong for the team he put out, and it was stronger than a Carling Cup team, but you can tell he doesn't prioritise the FA cup as much as the league.

Fair enough we are freed up from that competition, one which we could exit at any time anyway, but I wanted to win this one. Winning the league is still going to be very hard and I think we'll be runners up. So nothing else won.

That said if I had a choice between finishing 2nd while pushing for the title and winning nothing and just scraping 4th with the FA cup I would prefer the former. Hopefully we get far in the Champions League as well.

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Kind of wish that 4th goal counted. The defence really need to be shown up for the absolute lack of any command of the area at all.

Shadow Demon UK 27-01-2010 23:10
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Just one thing to say tonight - 34 years **** all :D

soicky 27-01-2010 23:14
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It had to be Rooney. :D

Julian 27-01-2010 23:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34953435)
Just one thing to say tonight - 34 years **** all :D
Ahhh, no posts in this thread for 3 weeks while your team have lost away to Man City and home to Leeds......

Nothing like a fair weather "fan" is there? Or is that just what Man Utd fans do?

Shadow Demon UK 28-01-2010 06:24
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 34953477)
Ahhh, no posts in this thread for 3 weeks while your team have lost away to Man City and home to Leeds......

Nothing like a fair weather "fan" is there? Or is that just what Man Utd fans do?
Oh sorry, i forgot i'm supposed to post on this site after every match. I'll make sure i do that in future Mr Julian Sir :rolleyes:

Get over yourself.

Mal 28-01-2010 09:17
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well, only six posts himself in this thread, so not exactly a bad weather poster himself ;)

Damien 28-01-2010 10:00
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Russ D is someone who is always on here regardless of if United win

Turkey Machine 28-01-2010 10:04
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Sounds like it was a good match, shame the BBC didn't have the rights to show it live. :(

Russ 28-01-2010 10:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34953635)
Russ D is someone who is always on here regardless of if United win
Usually slagging off another woeful performance from donkey :D

Derek 28-01-2010 11:23
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Another sterling performance and wonderful post match interview from ol Monkey heid. :D

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"My message as coach is that I believe we CAN win every game. Is that right? I think so. Will we win every game? I don't think so."
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...an-Barnes.html

Derek 28-01-2010 15:44
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Ooops. Mutu proves he is a class A wanger (or maybe a class B one :) )

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/8485548.stm

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Fiorentina striker Adrian Mutu has tested positive for a banned substance, according to the Italian Olympic Committee.

punky 28-01-2010 16:16
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Isn't he still appealing at his breach-of-contract fine owed to Chelski? He's going to kiss good bye to that £17m now.

Julian 28-01-2010 20:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal (Post 34953624)
well, only six posts himself in this thread, so not exactly a bad weather poster himself ;)
Bet you didn't find any posts gloating at my team's results either since this thread is almost exclusively for Premiership teams. ;)

Anyway, Rio made the right decision to appeal didn't he?
He was always going to miss the Arsenal game anyway and the extra game is not as important as last nights was.

Mal 28-01-2010 20:45
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It's not dedicated to the premier league though is it? ;)

Julian 28-01-2010 21:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal (Post 34954179)
It's not dedicated to the premier league though is it? ;)
'tis true.

Subject to events in February I may break my gloating duck..... :)

TheDaddy 30-01-2010 14:04
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I hope it happens and rules are put in place that this (parasites) never happens again (once those 2 at Liverpool have gone of course)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/8488910.stm

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John Terry's in the news again I see

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...Perroncel.html

yesman 30-01-2010 17:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34954957)
I hope it happens and rules are put in place that this (parasites) never happens again (once those 2 at Liverpool have gone of course)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/8488910.stm
It is reassuring to know that there are people out there, hopefully with no hidden agenda of their own, that are willing to buy the club, it will be getting the Glazers to sell that could be a problem.

superbiatch 30-01-2010 17:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34955037)
It is reassuring to know that there are people out there, hopefully with no hidden agenda of their own, that are willing to buy the club, it will be getting the Glazers to sell that could be a problem.
For once, both your club and mine have the same problem - Yanks who won't sell :(

The sooner they all go, the better English football will be IMO.

Charlie_Bubble 30-01-2010 18:21
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I think it's more likely that the two Liverpool owners will sell their interests before the Glazers. They've only owned the club for just over 2 years, have already had talks with various interested parties and seem to consider sports club ownership more of a profit making business. Whereas the Glazers have owned Utd since 2005 and spent 2 years previous to that buying up the shares, so they seem to have a more long term vision of ownership.

superbiatch 30-01-2010 21:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble (Post 34955062)
I think it's more likely that the two Liverpool owners will sell their interests before the Glazers. They've only owned the club for just over 2 years, have already had talks with various interested parties and seem to consider sports club ownership more of a profit making business. Whereas the Glazers have owned Utd since 2005 and spent 2 years previous to that buying up the shares, so they seem to have a more long term vision of ownership.
I can't say I'd be disappointed if they left :D

TheDaddy 31-01-2010 07:44
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Harsh, very harsh, especially as our cricket team were begging the government to interfere to stop us playing Zimbabwe not so long ago, CAF are out of touch and out of order imo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ca/8489127.stm

Damien 31-01-2010 10:13
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Very harsh indeed. Other African teams should boycott it. I don't understand why they need to do it every 2 years as opposed to every 4 either.

Damien 31-01-2010 18:28
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Speechless :( Still got Chelsea and Liverpool to come. Horrible to have this run in now.

Russ 31-01-2010 18:32
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
I was honestly expecting a 2-nil beating by Arsenal...

Derek 31-01-2010 22:20
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Bad news for all Liverpool fans :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/8490445.stm

Quote:
Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez has issued a statement dismissing reports he is to join Juventus and pledged his immediate future to the Anfield club.

Damien 31-01-2010 22:34
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Dear Wenger.

We need a new keeper.

Signed
Damien

punky 31-01-2010 23:47
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34955531)
Speechless :( Still got Chelsea and Liverpool to come. Horrible to have this run in now.
I wouldn't panic. I didn't really watch MOTD but the Utd goals look pretty slick. You're only 4 and points behind Utd Chelsea and there are 14 games to go.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34955702)
Dear Wenger.

We need a new keeper.

Signed
Damien
It looks like you'll be getting Begovich. We and your lot were the only 2 really in for him. We put him up in a hotel and was giving him a medical when he spotted Pletikosa being given a medical in the next room (booked by someone else at THFC). Unstandably a bit miffed he packed his bags and left oops:

Damien 01-02-2010 00:00
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 34955765)
It looks like you'll be getting Begovich. We and your lot were the only 2 really in for him. We put him up in a hotel and was giving him a medical when he spotted Pletikosa being given a medical in the next room (booked by someone else at THFC). Unstandably a bit miffed he packed his bags and left oops:
Wouldn't be a January Transfer window if we weren't going to buy someone who Spurs wanted on the last day :D

TheDaddy 01-02-2010 06:53
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Seriously are they taking the pish....

http://www.pfcfinancialservices.co.uk/home/

punky 01-02-2010 11:57
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34955771)
Wouldn't be a January Transfer window if we weren't going to buy someone who Spurs wanted on the last day :D
A little follow up for ya. Redknapp has confirmed on SSN that Begovich doesn't want to come (not suprising really) so its between you and Stoke now.

If anyone's interested in the latest Tottenham stuff, Pletikosa failed his second medical so looks like we're after Loach. Hutton to Sunderland on loan. Naughton on loan to Boro. Bentley not likely to go to West Ham.

Damien 01-02-2010 12:20
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 34955932)
A little follow up for ya. Redknapp has confirmed on SSN that Begovich doesn't want to come (not suprising really) so its between you and Stoke now..
Don't see why Arsenal would need him. Is he level at the level of Almunia? (Well, better). We have enough cover..

punky 01-02-2010 12:25
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34955945)
Don't see why Arsenal would need him. Is he level at the level of Almunia? (Well, better). We have enough cover..
No idea, but just passing on what i've read. Particularly as you said you want a new keeper.

Shadow Demon UK 01-02-2010 14:20
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Wenger said in his post-match interview yesterday that he won't be signing anyone, whether he was telling the truth or not i don't know, but it doesn't look likely there will be any signings for Arsenal.

Damien 01-02-2010 14:31
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34956053)
Wenger said in his post-match interview yesterday that he won't be signing anyone, whether he was telling the truth or not i don't know, but it doesn't look likely there will be any signings for Arsenal.
I don't know what he says in Almunia. I guess it's hard to see where a replacement will come from. Hugo Loris is my preferred choice. Good keeper and young.

punky 01-02-2010 18:16
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Well, Keane to Celtic on loan according to SSN. That was unexpected.

The window is still open up there until midnight.

Damien 01-02-2010 18:21
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Crap. I was hope we should sell Almunia for some magic beans and either replace him or just put the beans in the starting 11 and see what happens.

punky 01-02-2010 18:36
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34956265)
Crap. I was hope we should sell Almunia for some magic beans and either replace him or just put the beans in the starting 11 and see what happens.
I did see one of your 2nd string keepers (Mannone I think) and did look good from what I saw.

Shadow Demon UK 01-02-2010 19:41
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Tottenham boss Harry Redknapptold Sky Sports news: "The chairman rang me an hour ago asking me what I thought about it. Nothing sorted yet but it probably will happen. Robbie Keane's too good a player not to be starting. I think it's a move that appeals to him. He's a big Celtic man and to play for them -he's a bit like Roy Keane, he dreams of playing for Celtic one day. And we're strong in that position up front."


Wasn't the same thing said when he joined Liverpool last season?

Turkey Machine 02-02-2010 00:03
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Begovic went to Stoke in the end.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/8488595.stm

superbiatch 02-02-2010 15:37
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34956314)
Wasn't the same thing said when he joined Liverpool last season?
Yes, I thought that this morning too when I heard that :D

Derek 02-02-2010 15:40
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 34956701)
Yes, I thought that this morning too when I heard that :D
Hopefully the same end result after 6 months. :)

Does seem like a bit of a panic buy to me. Gambling a huge amount of money (Scottish football wise anything over 50p is big money right now) on a third choice striker to try and overturn a 10 point and 20 goal deficit.

superbiatch 02-02-2010 15:47
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34956704)
Hopefully the same end result after 6 months. :)

Does seem like a bit of a panic buy to me. Gambling a huge amount of money (Scottish football wise anything over 50p is big money right now) on a third choice striker to try and overturn a 10 point and 20 goal deficit.
I suppose 'he' can't lose out seen as he's dropped in the pecking order at Spurs.

Damien 02-02-2010 16:11
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Keane will be a first choice striker at Celtic surely?

LondonRoad 02-02-2010 16:34
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 34956701)
Yes, I thought that this morning too when I heard that :D
It's not unusual for boys from Eire to have 2 favourite teams, usually Celtic and an English team.

---------- Post added at 15:34 ---------- Previous post was at 15:29 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34956704)
Hopefully the same end result after 6 months. :)

Does seem like a bit of a panic buy to me. Gambling a huge amount of money (Scottish football wise anything over 50p is big money right now) on a third choice striker to try and overturn a 10 point and 20 goal deficit.
I think it's a good bit of business. Getting £3.5 million for McDonald was a great bit of business and Keane will help fill the stadium for the next few months. IF he helps overturn the 10 point gap and 'tic get direct entry to Champs league then it's more than paid for.... and although he's 3rd choice at Spurs I think you'd agree that he's superior to anything else Celtic have to offer just now. ;)

Derek 02-02-2010 16:46
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 34956739)
IF he helps overturn the 10 point gap and 'tic get direct entry to Champs league then it's more than paid for.... and although he's 3rd choice at Spurs I think you'd agree that he's superior to anything else Celtic have to offer just now. ;)
Well now skippy has been punted the only person ahead of him is Samaras who would struggle to hit the rear end of a cow with a banjo.

Still I have my fingers crossed his debut tonight is the same as the last Keane to play for Celtic after being hailed a saviour when he signed.

Derek 02-02-2010 22:30
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
I dunno I am quite worried. I mean with Celtics new 65k a week signing plus Monkeyheids new regime Celtic will easily win their game in hand against Kilmarnock and the gap will be down to 7 points.

Hold on a sec...

Quote:
Kilmarnock won their first match in nine league outings with a fine performance against Celtic.
Ho ho ho. :D :D :D

Derek 03-02-2010 09:43
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
A small slip of the tongue during a post match interview.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/8494702.stm

sherer 03-02-2010 10:27
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
great win for Palace last night. Never thought I was see the day when Butterfield got a hattrick

yesman 04-02-2010 00:12
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Well done Spurs in eliminating Leeds :)

I don't care who wins the cup as long as Leeds are no longer competing ;)

gazzae 04-02-2010 23:20
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34949408)

To right I am beating him up over this, he is bang out of order imo
From another site..

Quote:
Being Nice Costs You Nothing...
January 20: Sol Campbell announces intention to sue Portsmouth for £1.7million apparently owed to him in 'image rights and bonus payments'.

February 4: David James waives his right to a year contract extension at Portsmouth, that would automatically be triggered should he play 25 games this season, saying: "Without being funny, I'm not the richest man in the world but if there is a financial burden that the club can't suffer, then why should I be taking the mickey?"

Julian 05-02-2010 20:29
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Way to go Fabio, replace a philanderer with a thug/drug cheat. :rolleyes:

So being a role model was not the reason for change then.....

Rooney would have been a better choice, esp as he is in top form and behaving himself.

Shadow Demon UK 05-02-2010 20:35
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Making Rooney captain would have been one of the worst things he could have done. Why put extra pressure on someone that young in the form of his life? He already has a huge amount of expectation riding on his shoulders, he doesn't need anymore imo. Ferdinand was the best choice out of the players in the current squad.

Arthurgray50@blu 05-02-2010 22:49
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
I think the way Copello and FA have dealt with this whole affair has been a disgrace to football.

What Terry has done, has not only betrayed a friend, but also caused embarrasement for the English game, and it has been known that he has ******* more than one footballers wife.

He gets more money, than a normal guy can dream of, and he treats the fans like a piece of crap by doing this. NOT only should he have lost the captaincy, he should have lost his spot in the world cup squad, to teach him a lesson.

He is the ambassador for the game, and he does this, this might be his private life, but he should have kept todger in his trousers.

I can't wait for Bridge to play at the Bridge, and for him to go and smack Terry in the face in front of the camera's, that will teach the ******* a lesson. He has got off lightly only becasue the authorities are too damn soft. pampered kids.

punky 05-02-2010 22:59
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Forgot your medication again Arthur?

Arthurgray50@blu 05-02-2010 23:12
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Yes, its called Chelsea, l cannot stand them, bucnh of cheats especially Drogba, he should get an Oscar for Diving, and Terry for consistently badgering the ref, everytime the ref makes a decision against Chelsea the famous three Terry, Drogba and Cole badger the ref.

punky 06-02-2010 00:29
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
OK.

So Terry is a disgrace and you want Bridge to walk over to Terry and punch him in the face in front of the worldwide cameras.

And that will reverse the "embarrasement" [sic] the english game has suffered with Terry?

And you're sure about that?

Damien 06-02-2010 00:33
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Sorry Punky! Gonna have to agree with him here. I suggest we punish Chelsea by forcing ANY member of their team who is known to have been cheating, speeding, diving, lying, or anything else I deem to be UNACCEPTABLE to be banned for exactly one game starting from now. :D

punky 06-02-2010 00:40
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
I think football and people's personal life should be kept separate. I don't think Terry should get a 1 match ban for sleeping with someone's ex. If it happens off the field, it should stay off the field.

Quite what Arthur is suggesting is something else entirely.

Damien 06-02-2010 00:45
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 34958923)
I think football and people's personal life should be kept separate. I don't think Terry should get a 1 match ban for sleeping with someone's ex. If it happens off the field, it should stay off the field.

Quite what Arthur is suggesting is something else entirely.
I think we should make a special case just this once! Maybe the entire team should be forced to forfeit the next match and think about what they have done! Like detention.

punky 06-02-2010 01:43
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Ahh, penny has dropped.

Matty_ 07-02-2010 16:07
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 34958923)
I think football and people's personal life should be kept separate. I don't think Terry should get a 1 match ban for sleeping with someone's ex. If it happens off the field, it should stay off the field.

Quite what Arthur is suggesting is something else entirely.
I can`t see John Terry giving Wayne Bridges misses a going over on the pitch! Would be much more exciting than the football though (especially if it`s Chelsea):)

Damien 07-02-2010 16:34
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty_ (Post 34959620)
I can`t see John Terry giving Wayne Bridges misses a going over on the pitch! Would be much more exciting than the football though (especially if it`s Chelsea):)
The problem is you can't be sure. You turn your back for a just a moment and BAM he's taken your wife. Players don't need that. :p:

---------- Post added at 15:34 ---------- Previous post was at 15:31 ----------

Seriously though. This was quite an obvious decision. A captain doesn't have much to do but he needs the respect of his teammates and help the teams morale and cohesion. Sleeping with another players ex-girlfriend who is also the mother of his child undermines that.

punky 07-02-2010 16:37
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
I can't believe how a relatively minor situation has been blown completely out of proportion. An informal comment from the health minister has been dragged through politics, now Gordon Brown has chimed in and now people are questioning Platini about it.

Have people really lost their minds?

Damien 07-02-2010 16:46
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 34959637)
I can't believe how a relatively minor situation has been blown completely out of proportion. An informal comment from the health minister has been dragged through politics, now Gordon Brown has chimed in and now people are questioning Platini about it.

Have people really lost their minds?
Yup. Ages ago. I agree with the decision but it's over now.

---------- Post added at 15:46 ---------- Previous post was at 15:45 ----------

Anyone watching game on Sky. What was the song they just had before they went for the break. Something to do with rain.

Shadow Demon UK 07-02-2010 21:05
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Just watched Wengers post-match interview, his excuses for losing today - 1. He has a younger side, 2. Having a lot of big games on the trot, 3. Not having as much recovery time.

He doesn't learn.

Damien 07-02-2010 21:23
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34959866)
Just watched Wengers post-match interview, his excuses for losing today - 1. He has a younger side, 2. Having a lot of big games on the trot, 3. Not having as much recovery time.

He doesn't learn.
Really because I heard him say that the defending from the corner and set-pieces were poor and that Chelsea defended well:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...al/8503223.stm

He is asked about the team as a whole and the tendency to lose to the big teams and it is then he talks about the youth of the side, and the poor fortune of the run in.

So you ignored the actual reasons he gave for the loss and choose to take out of context the answer he gave when questioned about the loss to big teams. Rather sad...Still well Done. You can now work for the Sun.

Shadow Demon UK 07-02-2010 21:38
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34959890)
In the Sky one he said Chelsea defended well, Arsenal played well but couldn't score and the defending from set-pieces were poor. No doubt that will be ignored so that we can have a rant at him being a sore loser :dozey:.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...al/8503223.stm

So he gives the reasons you state at the end and you picked the last comment and took it out of context ignoring all the other stuff.

Well Done. You can now work for the Sun.

The 2nd one is valid, maybe not for this loss, but the way the title chances have crumbled away so quickly is down to playing the two other teams in the chase next to each other.

I haven't taken anything out of context, he said all of those things didn't he? If he didn't want to be seen as being a sore loser he didn't have to say those things and also moaning about the goalkeeper going across his goal to take a goal kick :rolleyes:

It just amazed me how he can make the point about having a young side being a reason for why they've lost the last two games.

---------- Post added at 20:38 ---------- Previous post was at 20:36 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34959890)
So you ignored the actual reasons he gave for the loss and choose to take out of context the answer he gave when questioned about the loss to big teams. Rather sad...Still well Done. You can now work for the Sun.
Ok, i'll change my original post from excuses for losing today, to excuses for losing against the big teams (which includes todays games). I don't see how it's sad, listening to a post-match interview and picking up on a couple of points he made.


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