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does the england and fa cup games get resold or does itv get these now?.
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What about Northern Irish viewers of Sentata?
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Virgin Media are in talks with ESPN America and Racing UK so that they can still broadcasted on Virgin TV as they was part of the Setanta Sports deal.
I do not have any information on Liverpool FC TV/Arsenal TV on Virgin TV. ---------- Post added at 19:50 ---------- Previous post was at 19:44 ---------- Just found this about Liverpool FC TV on their Web site: "LFC TV is currently broadcasting as normal and will continue to do so until further notice. However, following the announcement that Setanta GB is no longer trading, there may be some disruption to our service for UK television viewers.'' |
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Arsenal TV was still going earlier.
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There is a lot that Setanta has, GAA, German football, French football, Dutch football as well as golf and goodness knows what else.
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Let me solve a few irrated problems, which are arising on this thread, I have read several articles on ESPN and the Setanta aggro.
The Premier League on ESPN, will be in HD, they have said this, and l think this wuill be a sticking point for VM, and would that be a problem for XL customers, l think so, at the moment they pay £10.00 per month for this channel as it is a stand alone channel, IF VM can get this on the same package deal as the Setanta one which is FREE to XL customers, this would then be unfair to the customers who have actually paid for it. But l think that VM will come up with something, But l wouldn't pay for it, unless they have other football ie Scottish and Blue Square on it. |
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....raise the price of the XL pack perhaps might solve this "dilemma", something that is going to happen anyway. Now there could be a good excuse for VM to do it...
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ESPN won't be very big here unless they get more football or other major sports. The Premier League, whilst a good start, isn't enough.
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Stores promote sky because sky pay them to do so. Not because the stores have decided sky is better. You get free sky HD boxes at tesco when you buy a new tv not because the head of tesco thinks sky have a superior HD offering, but because sky went to him and said "we'll give you xx million if you push people to sign up to our service!" Now why do they need to do that if people are so interested in HD? Surely it's a product that would sell itself. They have 30odd HD channels, the next highest is 2, surely they don't need to push it on people if they're all clamoring for HD... unless of course the mass market consumer really isn't that interested in it? |
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The majority of TV viewers don't care for HD. Most people will have a standard Sky box, or normaly Sky+, or the normal Virgin service. Then there are the rest with Freeview boxes, which leaves the minority of people in this country with HD receivers.
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We then need to ask the question why the hell do vigin offer a hd box yeah some on demand hd but there is only so many times you can watch blue planet/ planet earth in hd. Yeah we have bbc hd but lets be honest how much stuff do you see thats really worth watchin on bbc hd..... I have spoken to virgin re cancelin my contract as I took it on the base they were going to offer more hd channels in the 1st quarter of this year.. there answer you signed a contract tough luck, take legal advice/ take us to court etc etc
Now i can also argue I signed up based on the fact I was gettin setanta free I wonder what they will say then !!! Yup tough luck mate, So unless I buy my self out of the contract Im stuck till jan 2010. Then I will spread my wings and fly. Whats the point in me havin a top hd tv and sound system and havin sod all hd content to watch . virgin should not keep telling customers they are getting things when they clearly are not. I'll give it another 18 months and Mr branson will remove his remaining stake in virgin and take his brand name with him. Before you say it yeah I know HD channels coming soon HA HA HA |
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ESPN America is available as part of the News & Events pack on the sky platform (Channel 417) in The UK. So that mean if Virgin sign an new deal with ESPN for their new Sport Channel. ESPN America may move to the Virgin XL package with ESPN Classic launching on Virgin TV. http://www.espnamerica.com/portal/sy...t/howtoget::uk |
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Guys, take the HD discussion to another thread please. :)
Setanta going down has opened up a whole can of worms for the providers, and they'll be busy in the next month to see how many customers they can keep and what deals they can reach with ESPN as a broadcaster, and other prospective sport rights holders for the multitude of other content they broadcast. |
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Setanta Football channels news update: (Info from Digital Spy)
Celtic TV, the television channel for Celtic FC operated by Setanta Sports, has ceased broadcasting and will not return until a deal with a new rights holder is struck. In a statement, Celtic said: "...we cannot make any guarantees, we hope that in the future there may be further opportunities to re-instate a club channel under any new rights holder and this is something which we will be investigating.'' Arsenal said that its TV channel would continue broadcasting in the short term but the club will evaluate its long term viability. |
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Details of the new ESPN channel should be released tomorrow along with the arrangements ESPN and Sky have put in place in regards to pricing and EPG position on satellite. VM is still in talks with ESPN with regards to whether Premiership content on the new channel will appear on VM - a 100% certainty I think.
Broadcast is reporting that Hallmark is to be replaced with the Universal Channel this year. NBC Universal will also rebrand its other channels Diva, Sci Fi and Movies 24 too. Details to be announced within the next two months. |
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The way you have to look at is, VM are now the only company too 'still in talks' when everyone else has it sorted.
As l said before, VM will wait till the last minute, before putting it on cable, as before they are way behind everyone else, and the worst thing is, they don't keep US informed. |
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Nice, so now we are back to working out what the six (half dozen) HD channels will be.
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Wouldn't the EPG be updated before that and it would just be a matter of someone throwing the ON switch on Saturday ?
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I think Virgin did launch Two +1 channels of Discovery on an Saturday back in 2007.
I have just found that post about them being added http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34341108-post74.html |
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i also heard the news that of com has said that it will make sky wholesale tv channels and check this link to the ofcom website
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcas...er-league.html ---------- Post added at 12:12 ---------- Previous post was at 11:12 ---------- Setanta Sports UK fallout: Eurosport outbid Sky and ESPN to win Setanta's PGA Tour rights Eurosport has the secured TV rights for the 2009 US PGA Tour season which were previously owned by collapsed broadcaster Setanta. All action from the 2009 Tour will now be aired on British Eurosport and British Eurosport 2 on satellite and Virgin Media. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcas...ur-rights.html Info from Digital Spy. |
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thank god for ofcom forcing sky to give virgin hd. I doubt they will give virgin the 1920x1080i feed though, they will probably only give 1440x1080i that they show themselves. bbchd on virgin is 1920x1080i btw. I reckon sky will ask for crazy prices now from virgin and virgin say its too high then we will have to wait for ofcom to set a good price.
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It seems like Ofcom are ready to step in and set the pricing now, there's a page in there that shows the cost-plus price of the channel (essentially cost + reasonable markup), the price sky charge for them, and a range of prices ofcom considers reasonable, and there's a huge difference (up to 20%) between what they charge now and what ofcom thinks they should charge. I really am hoping that they follow through with this, bringing down the wholesale cost of the channels, and forcing them to wholesale HD at £4.00-6.39/month per sub, would really turn things round for VM (as long as VM can put all the channels on) not just by bringing the service in line with Sky, but reducing their costs and increasing their margins to the level where expansion and improvement would be extremely viable. Infact, I'd go as far as to say that if they did then there would be no reason at all to choose sky over VM, and VM would have a significant market advantage. One of the interesting things from reading the review is with the movie channels though, Sky have the subscription vod rights to all the major movie studios (as those rights are tied in with the linear channel rights) this means that they can offer a subscription on demand service for movies... but they obviously don't have the TV platform to do it and only offer a small online service. Ofcom are going to look in if those rights are always going to be tied to the linear rights, or if the movie studios are going to unbundle them. If they are unbundled, or ofcom force sky to wholesale them as well if the studios wont, then VM could offer an subscribed movies on demand service, offering a massive back catalogue of films from all the major studios. That would put VM firmly ahead of Sky. Who would want movie channels that repeat the same films 10 times a week, when you could subscribe to an on demand service that offers a massive library to choose from? All of this is exactly why Sky are anti-competative, simply because they cannot compete on a level playing field, they have an inherent disadvantage with their platform, it's great for linear tv, but when you want interactive services and next generation tv services like VOD, it's nowhere to be seen. |
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Just checked Eurosport after Mediaboy's post about the PGA tour got sound but no picture on channel 521, Just phoned faults and they've sent a signal said wait 20 to 25 minutes got Eurosport 2 ok though anyone else having issues?
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There's no way Sky are going to give up before they've exhausted all their options, because the changes in this review really would destroy their market position. Funnily enough though, I think that if they took it as far as it can go there's a good chance of a European court ruling they should be broken up into a seperate channel provider and broadcasting platform, something ofcom have no appetite to do. |
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Update after 25 minutes Eurosport 2 has gone as well whopee :-(
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It could take years just like the bank penalties case which start in 2007 and has just been to the lords of appeal (despite the court of appeal refusing them leave to go to the lords).
The lords wont rule until october. So, if sky stops short of the european court about 2.5 years from when ofcom formally makes it final decision later this year. Spring 2012 sounds about right. |
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Well my eurosport 1 and 2 are back on nothing about the PGA tour on the EPG as per DS forum
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Ah thanks JHM checked again today but still nothing on the EPG will have to go out and have a game tonight instead if I can get an evening pass from Mrs B
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PictureBox Movies-on-Demand service to launch on Virgin Media.
"From July, the PictureBox service will be available to Virgin Media’s 3.6 million TV subscribers for £5 per month and provide a broad selection of recent and library feature films. Subscribers will be able to view films whenever they like from a selection of 28 films at any given time, with seven new titles being added to the line-up each Friday. Most of the PictureBox films will be available in HD and many will not yet have been seen on free-to-air television in the UK." http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...793&highlight= |
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I do not know if i have got the wrong idea here but the amount of deals that vm are doing with universal at the moment ( unlimited music and also now picturebox ) . Could they possibly be hoping to get the hd channels that universal own as vm said that the hd channels that they could be getting would be from an outside source ?
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Channel 4 HD - Deal been signed by Virgin. Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: A&E has told me that they are in talks with Virgin Media with the view of carrying their History HD Channel. sooo big bro hd and history hd? Ill be looking forward to the history hd |
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