Cable Forum

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   Current Affairs (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=20)
-   -   Madeleine McCann (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=33625944)

Pia 19-09-2007 22:46

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Why does it, there's not a bin everywhere they could have done a quick nappy change, roled up the wet nappy and chucked it in the back til they got back. Still could have been disposable.

This is surreal, what are we talking about again hehe :D

Arthurgray50@blu 19-09-2007 23:17

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Hello all, l should have been a detective as l have been proved yet again, in regards to the Maddie affair, the article regarding the article by HomR, regarding the missing girl before Maddie, there was an article in TODAYS press, that she was found TODAY. It looks very much like the McCanns are going to be free from the Portugese torture, the only question is now, is where is poor Maddie, you see l always look at the facts, before jumping the gun.:)

monkey2468 20-09-2007 11:33

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34399539)
snip .......... regarding the missing girl before Maddie, there was an article in TODAYS press, that she was found TODAY. snip

Do you have a link as I can't find any info where it says she has been found.

LSainsbury 20-09-2007 12:14

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34399539)
Hello all, l should have been a detective as l have been proved yet again, in regards to the Maddie affair, the article regarding the article by HomR, regarding the missing girl before Maddie, there was an article in TODAYS press, that she was found TODAY. It looks very much like the McCanns are going to be free from the Portugese torture, the only question is now, is where is poor Maddie, you see l always look at the facts, before jumping the gun.:)


Todays press? As in newspaper? So how would they know she was found today if the newspaper was printed yesterday? :confused:

Hugh 20-09-2007 12:24

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34399796)
Todays press? As in newspaper? So how would they know she was found today if the newspaper was printed yesterday? :confused:

Could have been the evening paper/edition.....

rogerdraig 22-09-2007 22:43

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
any one got a link for this ? i cant see a thing about it

joglynne 23-09-2007 00:15

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
The only article that I could find was dated September 15, 2007 - 5:59 PM
Quote:

Body of missing girl believed found
Quote:

The body of her presumed kidnapper was found in the same forest the day after she disappeared.
Quote:

Immediately following Ylenia's disappearance, Swiss police said investigations were also being carried out in Spain and Portugal, raising speculation of a possible link between her case and that of missing British girl Madeleine McCann.
http://194.6.181.127/eng/front/detai...71988000&ty=st

Although Maddy is mentioned, this kidnapping (which only happened on July 31 2007) and subsequent murder of five-year-old Ylenia Lenhard happened in St Gallen, Switzerland.

The link with Portugal seems to have arisen as her suspected murderer, Swiss national Urs Hans von Aesch 67, only returned to Switzerland at the beginning of July, he had been living in Benimantell near Benidorm in Spain with his wife since 1990 and now appears to be suspected of being involved with other cases of missing children.

TheDaddy 26-09-2007 02:34

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
I wonder where this will lead?

alferret 26-09-2007 08:19

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Tis strange, dark skinned morrocan carrying a fair skinned child.

http://www.cope.es/archivos/especiales/nina_rubia_3.jpg

LINKAGE

Mr_love_monkey 26-09-2007 17:49

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Not her apparently

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7014886.stm

Saaf_laandon_mo 26-09-2007 17:52

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
When I first saw that picture I had to laugh..... Does that women carrying 'maddie' looks like she needed to kidnap a kid, just so she can ferry her around on her back. Im sorry but it doesnt make sense why a kidnapper of the most hunted for child in current times would be carrying her on her back just like that!

BBKing 26-09-2007 18:10

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

When I first saw that picture I had to laugh
I didn't. Nor the second, third, fourth or fifth paper that had it on the bleedin front page. Give it a rest, it's not like there are no proper stories to cover.

TheNorm 27-09-2007 08:13

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34403940)
Not her apparently...

It's interesting how this revelation was made by a London newspaper reporter. Did anyone else (police, private detectives) get there first?

Hugh 01-10-2007 14:42

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Latest fantasy leaked by the Portuguese police - Telegraph

Was this before or after they had killed her with an overdose of sedatives?:dozey:

"The latest theory is that Madeleine fell down the 10 steps outside the family’s Mark Warner holiday apartment in Praia Da Luz and hit the back of her head. She landed on the hard ceramic flagstone and suffered severe trauma, it was alleged by tabloid newspaper 24 Horas.
The paper said police believe Mr and Mrs McCann then tried to cover up the accident and disposed of the body because they were afraid they would be accused of killing their child.
They may even have enlisted the help of some of their friends who were on holiday with them in the Algarve, it was claimed."

Chris 01-10-2007 14:52

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
I'm beginning to believe the Portuguese police are as nutty as squirrel turds.

Pierre 01-10-2007 15:02

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34406482)
I'm beginning to believe the Portuguese police are as nutty as squirrel turds.

Very Topical.

XFS03 03-10-2007 13:43

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
I thought there was going to be news of a real breakthrough yesterday, when during the BBC 6 o'clock news they announced "breaking news in the Madeleine McCann case". They even wheeled in their correspondent who normally reports from Portugal, to give us this news.

It turns out it was only to report that the Portuguese detective leading the investigation has been sacked for accusing the British police of helping the McCanns to cover up their role in Madeleine's disappearance.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2577284.ece

.

Chris 03-10-2007 13:48

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
'Only'? That's the first genuine news development in this case for weeks!

At least we now know who the nut-case inside the Portuguese police is, who has been leaking insinuations about the McCann's involvement to the local media out there.

LSainsbury 08-10-2007 14:01

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
This bloke has some serious issues....


Quote:

A leading child protection expert has said he has significant concerns about the man nicknamed "The Locator" who has been called in to help find Madeleine McCann.
Sky News

Mr_love_monkey 08-10-2007 14:06

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
'Missing person machine'????

What next - Scooby and the Gang? - "Jeepers it was old Man Peterson all the time!"

LSainsbury 08-10-2007 14:16

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34410366)
What next - Scooby and the Gang?"


I know what you are ALL thinking:

"I would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those pesky kids..."

XFS03 18-10-2007 20:05

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
There's a Dispatches Special on Channel 4 tonight at 9pm.

9.00pm Searching for Madeleine: A Dispatches Special
A team including five of the UK's best-qualified criminal investigators travel to Praia de Luz to review the Portuguese investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Led by retired DCS Chris Stevenson, who headed the Soham enquiry in 2002, they analyse important moments in the near-six-month case putting forward how they would have responded to key areas of it.

mrmistoffelees 19-10-2007 08:55

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XFS03 (Post 34417287)
There's a Dispatches Special on Channel 4 tonight at 9pm.

9.00pm Searching for Madeleine: A Dispatches Special
A team including five of the UK's best-qualified criminal investigators travel to Praia de Luz to review the Portuguese investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Led by retired DCS Chris Stevenson, who headed the Soham enquiry in 2002, they analyse important moments in the near-six-month case putting forward how they would have responded to key areas of it.


Mostly entertainment posing as fact unfortunately, The one thing that did come out that confirmed what I already knew is that right from the start the parents would have been investigated.

Also, the portugese police searches have at best been woefully inadequate

Mr_love_monkey 19-10-2007 09:40

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 34417603)
Mostly entertainment posing as fact unfortunately

Yeah I caught the last 30 minutes of it, and basically it looked like they had given a programme to people so that they could stand around a water cooler and gossip... and the conclusion of the programme was 'we dont know'

TV at it's best.

Chris 19-10-2007 16:07

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
/Deletes another outbreak of offtopicness

Stick to the topic please!

XFS03 22-10-2007 13:09

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
There were a few interesting points raised in the program. The thumb prints on the shutters (were they from someone being on the inside or outside?). Were the large wheelie bins searched before being emptied overnight?

The ending seemed to be a bit rushed though. The expert at the end appeared to be cut off mid sentence when the programme finished.



It looks like the other members of the party are going to be re-interviewed by Portugese police:- http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...289313,00.html

Perhaps it has something to do with reports that the McCann's 3 children were not alone in their apartment that night, and a member of the party (Russell O’Brien) was missing from the tapas restaurant for 25 minutes, apparently tending his sick daughter. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...=null&offset=0

.

smicer07 25-10-2007 12:37

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
I notice they're back in the news yet again. I know a little girl is still (dead) missing, but I really wish the McCann's would just feck off off our screens now.

XFS03 25-10-2007 19:08

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
I saw a bit of the interview last night on the news. Kate McCann didn't do herself any favours at all by refusing to answer the question as to whether they sedated their children!

Surely Clarence had coached them beforehand about how to conduct themselves in interviews?

RizzyKing 25-10-2007 20:33

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Well surely if they hadn't sedated their children it would be the easiest thing to answer and no one in their right mind if asked would not answer if they hadn't been i find that alone quite disturbing. While i still cling to the hope she will be found alive even i am now slowly coming round to the fact she is dead. As to who did it and why they did it hopefully time will tell and the guilty ones whoever they are will recieve a suitable punishment.

peanut 25-10-2007 20:39

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34421797)
Well surely if they hadn't sedated their children it would be the easiest thing to answer and no one in their right mind if asked would not answer if they hadn't been i find that alone quite disturbing. While i still cling to the hope she will be found alive even i am now slowly coming round to the fact she is dead. As to who did it and why they did it hopefully time will tell and the guilty ones whoever they are will recieve a suitable punishment.

It will drag on and on to a point it'll be forgotten and unsolved I reckon.

And I agree there's only a limit that the public can and will take before they get sick of them altogether, and it's very close to it at the moment.

And by now I think it's also past the point of everyone is desensitized by the whole thing now and the emotion of hope of the girls return is now pretty much over. So from here on in, they could start to grate on people.

XFS03 31-10-2007 14:56

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Saw this item on VM's news pages about how Portuguese police staged a reconstruction. The article also mentions that the McCann's have used donations from the fund to pay for a couple of mortgage payments on their house.

http://www.virginmedia.com/news/uk/u...oryid=15628018

.

peanut 31-10-2007 16:21

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Took them a long while to do a reconstruction, thought it is a step in the right direction if it ain't a little too late. I think the group they were with at the tapas bar are still 'dodgy' and not giving all the info they can.

Also I really don't think the public really care now what they do or get up to, unless if she's found or they actually charge someone with proof then anything else is just not interesting anymore.

Saaf_laandon_mo 31-10-2007 17:19

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
If they feel they cant go back to work, should mortgage payments continue to be paid from the fund? I think not.

Mr_love_monkey 31-10-2007 17:21

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34425358)
If they feel they cant go back to work, should mortgage payments continue to be paid from the fund? I think not.

well the report said they made 2 (or 3 I forget) mortgage payments from the fund, before they were made suspects, once they were made suspects they stopped

XFS03 31-10-2007 17:58

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
There are a few more articles about the mortgage payments here:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../wmaddy230.xml

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...11&expand=true

So, if they hadn't become formal suspects, I assume the mortgage payments would have continued. I wonder how many people who contributed towards the fund, particularly in the early days, knew exactly what it could be used for?

It wouldn't be so bad if they said that they would pay it back when they resumed work, but Clarence said nothing about that.

---------- Post added at 16:58 ---------- Previous post was at 16:48 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by peanutkp (Post 34425329)
...I think the group they were with at the tapas bar are still 'dodgy' and not giving all the info they can...

It was reported over a week ago that portuguse police were travelling to UK to interview them, but nothing more has been heard.

punky 31-10-2007 18:29

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
I'm interested to know where the other £296,000 has gone.

Saaf_laandon_mo 31-10-2007 18:42

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34425392)
I'm interested to know where the other £296,000 has gone.

Dont they have a team of PIs roaming North Africa, Portugal and Spain. They must cost a few bob.

RizzyKing 01-11-2007 15:24

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
While it is bad attitude to have as long as maddie is missing i am full of nothng but boredom. I really don't give a tinkers cuss about kate or gerry mc'cann from what i have seen of them both on tv and in the press they don't strike me as brilliant people. As for the fund well i will not be giving another penny to it as an early donator (not much but what i could afford) i don't feel it was right to pay the mortgage of a cardiologist and a gp who are on better money then most of those that donated. To be honest until she is found be it dead or more hopefully alive i am not interested in it and i certainly have no interest in this pr exercise that is going on.

Damien 01-11-2007 15:31

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
To be fair, the fund was set up with the goal of providing assistance to the McCanns and their costs. Not working and needing to pay their mortgage should count.

RizzyKing 01-11-2007 15:38

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
All i saw was the bit about it being to find maddie and to do anything to help do that and thats why i and i think many others donated.

XFS03 06-11-2007 15:00

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
A bag of clothes containing DNA linked to Madeleine McCann has been discovered dumped by a road in Portugal.
The bag is believed to contain a blue fleece jacket and a pair of adult jeans with traces of DNA which may have come from Maddie.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

http://www.virginmedia.com/news/madeleinemccann/

.

Mr_love_monkey 06-11-2007 15:20

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
It was found 2 weeks ago? - I thought DNA tests took longer than 2 weeks

XFS03 06-11-2007 20:34

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34428485)
It was found 2 weeks ago? - I thought DNA tests took longer than 2 weeks

Don't know much about DNA testing, but I thought, in general, the time taken to get a result depends on the quality of the sample. I think the results from a good quality sample can be had in a day or 2.

peanut 06-11-2007 20:39

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Or in Portugal 5 minutes if it helps their cause.

artsapart 07-11-2007 23:57

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
I am not laying any blame as i don't feel qualified to judge but speaking as a parent....I live in bungalow so there are no stairs just the ground level, as I live in a rural location I used to be able to leave my windows fully open at night without any worries. I then became a parent and even when I was inside my own home at night with the windows open and only in a different room from my son, I felt for his safety so now they stay closed. It just puts my mind at rest, and I could never of personally gone out to eat and left my kids sleeping.

Gareth 10-11-2007 01:28

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34425785)
To be fair, the fund was set up with the goal of providing assistance to the McCanns and their costs. Not working and needing to pay their mortgage should count.

I disagree - how have Team McCann helped in the search for their daughter by not being at work, and therefore not being able to meet their mortgage payments? They've hired private detectives to scour various places that could be of interest, it's not as if they're off to these haunts themselves.

If they couldn't afford the mortgage payments then they should have considered downsizing... seeing as though the child is nowhere to be found, it's not as if they need all those bedrooms any more.

mrmistoffelees 10-11-2007 06:43

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth (Post 34430583)
I disagree - how have Team McCann helped in the search for their daughter by not being at work, and therefore not being able to meet their mortgage payments? They've hired private detectives to scour various places that could be of interest, it's not as if they're off to these haunts themselves.

If they couldn't afford the mortgage payments then they should have considered downsizing... seeing as though the child is nowhere to be found, it's not as if they need all those bedrooms any more.



oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooffff harsh but funny :D:D:D

Hugh 10-11-2007 17:28

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth (Post 34430583)
I disagree - how have Team McCann helped in the search for their daughter by not being at work, and therefore not being able to meet their mortgage payments? They've hired private detectives to scour various places that could be of interest, it's not as if they're off to these haunts themselves.

If they couldn't afford the mortgage payments then they should have considered downsizing... seeing as though the child is nowhere to be found, it's not as if they need all those bedrooms any more.

Perhaps they were more focused on trying to find their child? They did, I believe, travel a lot to publicise the hunt, then they had to stay in Portugal because of the police.

And if Maddy is found and returned, won't they need the "all those" bedrooms then?

Chris 10-11-2007 19:24

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth (Post 34430583)
I disagree - how have Team McCann helped in the search for their daughter by not being at work, and therefore not being able to meet their mortgage payments? They've hired private detectives to scour various places that could be of interest, it's not as if they're off to these haunts themselves.

If they couldn't afford the mortgage payments then they should have considered downsizing... seeing as though the child is nowhere to be found, it's not as if they need all those bedrooms any more.

It's all so very easy, sitting there at your keyboard, isn't it? :rolleyes:

slug 11-11-2007 02:46

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Right from the start this couple have done nothing right, starting with leaving their kids alone. Its almost like they are trying to screw it up.

XFS03 11-11-2007 14:49

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 34430596)
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooffff harsh but funny :D:D:D

I'm a bit suprised by that response.

While I am no fan of Kate & Gerry McCann, for reasons I've given many times in this thread, at the end of the day Madeleine is still officially "missing". Whether she has been abducted, or has been killed, I cannot see how implying that she will never return home was remotely funny (and certainly not worthy of 3 "big grins").

mrmistoffelees 11-11-2007 18:36

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XFS03 (Post 34431284)
I'm a bit suprised by that response.

While I am no fan of Kate & Gerry McCann, for reasons I've given many times in this thread, at the end of the day Madeleine is still officially "missing". Whether she has been abducted, or has been killed, I cannot see how implying that she will never return home was remotely funny (and certainly not worthy of 3 "big grins").

It's the macabre, dark sense of humour that I possess I guess.

Gareth 11-11-2007 21:42

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34430898)
It's all so very easy, sitting there at your keyboard, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Yes, I'm officially a keyboard warrior :)

RizzyKing 12-11-2007 13:53

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Well been an interesting week with some of the so called friends alledgedly wanting to change their statements. Now it has been reported albeit by the sun that between them kate and gerry mc'cann were absent in some form or another for a total of two hours on the night in question. It was the last bit that strikes more alarm as if between them between those hours of 19.30 and 22.00 one or the other were with the kids thats a very very small window of oppurtunity for an abduction and if the abductor was watching would he really have taken a chance with the parents coming and going so regular.

Mr_love_monkey 12-11-2007 14:35

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
yeah, but everytime it's a slow news day, one of the papers seems to make something up - so I don't really have too much faith in anything that any of them say

RizzyKing 12-11-2007 14:49

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Hence my caution but if it is confirmed by a reputable source then it raises some unpleasant questions.

XFS03 16-11-2007 14:34

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Jane Tanner's interview with the BBC will be shown next Monday on Panorama at 9pm. She is the friend of the McCanns who claimed she saw a man carrying Madeleine away.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7098390.stm

One thing that puzzles me, is this:-
"Ms Tanner described how a friend came to her holiday apartment to tell her Madeleine had gone at about 10pm."

I was always under the impression that all the friends were still at the tappas bar when Kate McCann came back to say "They have taken her".

XFS03 19-11-2007 20:07

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Private investigators searching for Madeleine say they are 100% certain that she is still alive, and that they are very, very close to finding the kidnapper.

http://www.virginmedia.com/news/worl...oryid=16593822

Seems like a bit of a bold statement for anyone to make.

.

TheNorm 23-11-2007 18:57

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XFS03 (Post 34436544)
Private investigators searching for Madeleine ....

Well their website is pretty slick... http://www.metodo3.es/eng/entrada.html

peanut 23-11-2007 19:02

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XFS03 (Post 34436544)
Private investigators searching for Madeleine say they are 100% certain that she is still alive, and that they are very, very close to finding the kidnapper.

http://www.virginmedia.com/news/worl...oryid=16593822

Seems like a bit of a bold statement for anyone to make.

.

And the Sun say Maddie is dead (again). That certainly balance things out. :confused:

Edit:

Added: (again).

XFS03 26-11-2007 21:53

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Just had a chance to watch Panorama again. The programme seemed to raise more questions than it answered.

One of the things that Gerry McCann said in one of the earlier interviews, was that the parents took it in turns to check up on eachother's children. This wasn't strictly true, as the programme showed, Gerry McCann only checked on his own children at "just after" 9pm, Jane Tanner checked on her own children at 9.15pm, but Matthew Oldfield claimed that he checked on the McCann children at 9.30, but strangely only saw the twins and not Madeleine through the open bedroom door (even though Madeleine was in between the twins?). It does make me wonder if Mr Oldfield checked on them at all. I wonder if the others kept their doors locked & the McCanns didn't?

Jane Tanner's claim that she was back in her apartment by 10pm is a bit odd. She said she checked on her children at 9.15, before the starter was served at the tapas bar. Assuming she was gone for just 10 minutes, that means she had the starter, main course & possibly a dessert, and got back to her apartment in the space of 35 minutes. I wonder why she left the tapas bar earlier than any of the others?

Another fact that emerged, was that Gerry McCann also said "They have taken her" when he phoned his sister. He used the same strange words as Kate did, when she returned to the tapas bar!

The most interesting part of the programme was when they interviewed Kate McCann's Mother, Susan Healey. She said "Well I have to say that I'm suprised that Kate & Gerry left their children at all, and I thought about it a lot because they are such caring parents, and I think, why?" If she can say that in public, it makes you think what she has said in private!

Also, I wonder why Kate was so desperate to talk to her priest that night. When she phoned her Mother, she asked her for the phone number of Father Paul Seddon, the priest who married the McCanns & baptised Madeleine. Even her Mother seemed suprised by this. I wonder if either of them has ever been asked what they talked about?

Mr Angry 26-11-2007 22:00

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
You are Robert Murat.

I hereby claim my £5.00

maddyp 26-11-2007 23:42

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
it is all so strange isn't it. I feel guilty for reading it daily ! but it kind of gets you fascinated by the whole tradgic case..

Tezcatlipoca 27-11-2007 00:32

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Reading it daily? You must be an Express reader ;)

Damien 27-11-2007 00:47

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Also, I wonder why Kate was so desperate to talk to her priest that night. When she phoned her Mother, she asked her for the phone number of Father Paul Seddon, the priest who married the McCanns & baptided Madeleine. Even her Mother seemed surprised by this. I wonder if either of them has ever been asked what they talked about?
She religious and needed support? Also, I am guessing, if true, he was asked and it turned out to be innocent. Priests are not allowed to keep details of a serious crime hidden (i think) and also tend to be quite decent people who would regard killing your child as a crime to report.

XFS03 27-11-2007 02:18

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34440804)
She religious and needed support? Also, I am guessing, if true, he was asked and it turned out to be innocent. Priests are not allowed to keep details of a serious crime hidden (i think) and also tend to be quite decent people who would regard killing your child as a crime to report.

I suppose so. But it still seems a bit odd wanting to talk to a priest on the phone. I would imagine it must be quite hard to give someone comfort who is hundreds of miles away, rather than face to face.

slug 27-11-2007 02:46

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
There is a lot more to this case than is being told in the official media particularly about the McCann's lifestyle.
We can only hope the full truth comes out one day.

RizzyKing 27-11-2007 10:30

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
That's what always bothered me about this everyone's initial reaction seems to have been "she's been abducted". If i left a four year old sleeping in an apartment and went back at some point and she wasn't there first thing that would come to me was that she had woken up and gone looking for me. Not so the mc'canns who right from the getgo knew she had been abducted. The fact that all these friends that were there can't seem to get thier stories straight also puzzles me. I think there is a hell of a lot we don't know about this and for that reason we shouldn't say oneway or the other who or what happened to the little girl.

r1ch 27-11-2007 12:07

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34440950)
That's what always bothered me about this everyone's initial reaction seems to have been "she's been abducted". If i left a four year old sleeping in an apartment and went back at some point and she wasn't there first thing that would come to me was that she had woken up and gone looking for me. Not so the mc'canns who right from the getgo knew she had been abducted. The fact that all these friends that were there can't seem to get thier stories straight also puzzles me. I think there is a hell of a lot we don't know about this and for that reason we shouldn't say oneway or the other who or what happened to the little girl.

They claim that they know that she'd been abducted because the 'cuddle cat' that she was sleeping with had been put on a shelf or something high up out of Madeline's reach. Pretty weird thing to do if true, but the whole thing is pretty strange.

I found it very unsettling when Gerry McCann tried to suggest that the abductor may have drugged the children in the Panorama documentary. That seems so ridiculous (presumably the abductor would have done it to prevent the children making any noise, but if he could get access to drug them quietly then why niot take them at the same time?) that it really felt like he was trying to cover himself in case any evidence of sedatives is ever found.

handyman 27-11-2007 12:23

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r1ch (Post 34441001)
They claim that they know that she'd been abducted because the 'cuddle cat' that she was sleeping with had been put on a shelf or something high up out of Madeline's reach. Pretty weird thing to do if true, but the whole thing is pretty strange.

I which case as educated rational people they should have known that the best chance of dna from the abductor would be on the object they knew the abductor had touched.

RizzyKing 27-11-2007 15:29

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
If we accept the version of events that team mc'cann offer up we have an abductor that only had a few minutes to abduct maddie (due to all the friends and the mc'canns coming and going) but in that time maddie was drugged and cuddle cat was placed on high. Yeah like i fully believe that i still don't think they killed maddie but i do believe they have done something in relation to the kids that they are very worried about it becoming public. Maybe they were sedating their kids as i am not a doctor i don't know if that would be big trouble for them but personally i think it would. I just think back to all the parents of previous abdutee's non of them needed a personal PR person and i as i think many will agree never see the good in anything PR is involved in.

TraxData 27-11-2007 15:47

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Are you guys STILL going on about this? geez....let it rest already.

Woolly One 27-11-2007 15:48

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34441096)
If we accept the version of events that team mc'cann offer up we have an abductor that only had a few minutes to abduct maddie (due to all the friends and the mc'canns coming and going) but in that time maddie was drugged and cuddle cat was placed on high. Yeah like i fully believe that i still don't think they killed maddie but i do believe they have done something in relation to the kids that they are very worried about it becoming public. Maybe they were sedating their kids as i am not a doctor i don't know if that would be big trouble for them but personally i think it would. I just think back to all the parents of previous abdutee's non of them needed a personal PR person and i as i think many will agree never see the good in anything PR is involved in.

IMO I don't think that all the others, had as much 'backup' money as the Mc'cann's to raise the profile of the case so much.

XFS03 27-11-2007 18:47

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TraxData (Post 34441104)
Are you guys STILL going on about this? geez....let it rest already.

No one is forcing you to read this thread.
If your not interested, don't read it.
Quite simple really. :rolleyes:

TraxData 27-11-2007 23:23

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XFS03 (Post 34441228)
No one is forcing you to read this thread.
If your not interested, don't read it.
Quite simple really. :rolleyes:

And if your stupid enough to carry on talking about this, then feel free to do so and ignore whatever i post.

Quite simple really. :rolleyes:

punky 27-11-2007 23:31

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
OK, that's enough of that thank you

peanut 28-11-2007 00:38

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
I think I've now read just about every scenario going so far, she's dead, alive, it's him, it's her, it's back to him and today she was killed by a peado etc etc x10, it's like stick the tail on a donkey basically.

The media is now so messed up with it, I don't bother to even read any news on the matter anymore. I suppose this is what happens when you invite a circus into your lives.

Arthurgray50@blu 22-12-2007 19:29

[MERGED] Madeleine Mcann
 
Sadly, we have another advert on TV for the missing Maddie, and a sad one, even l had a tear in my eye, we have an private investigator, who promised us that she would be home for Xmas, they also claimed, that they know where she is, so why don't they go in a get her, but what angers me more than anything, is that there is someone out there, who know where she is, and won't say anything, And l know what people might think, there are other people out there, that are missing at this joyous time of year, but maybe, with the campaign with Maddie, will highlight the sadness of others at this time of year, lets hope this draws to a close very soon:)

Graham M 22-12-2007 20:32

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine Mcann
 
They probably won't go and get her if they feared her life was in danger

Mr Angry 23-12-2007 01:56

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine Mcann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34457241)
...we have an private investigator, who promised us that she would be home for Xmas, they also claimed, that they know where she is, so why don't they go in a get her....

For £50,000 a month I'd tell the McCanns (and the national media) whatever they wanted to hear - I'd even try to keep a straight face whilst doing so.

Chorlton 23-12-2007 11:31

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
The private investigation team have now admitted they have no idea where she is, saying if they did know they wouldn't wait until Christmas to get her.

Arthurgray50@blu 23-12-2007 20:07

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine Mcann
 
Hi MrAngry, l think that was the best comment, l have heard, even now after hearing the news, on TV, that there is a possibility that Phedos have her, as police are now looking, after seven months, for bag, big enough to carry a body, and yet the private investigators have opened a new office, and could they call it ' McCANN HOUSE' after all, it was the fund that paid for it, l think it has been a sick scam, by Metodor 3, and l don't think they have a damned idea where she is.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

XFS03 27-12-2007 17:18

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
The claims made by this PI company always seemed too good to be true. Claiming that they knew who took her, and that she would be home by Christmas just didn't seem to add up.

I notice that the contract runs to March. I wonder if they still receive their £50k per month even if she is found before then?

Saaf_laandon_mo 27-12-2007 17:21

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Is anyone on the PI team/company friends of the McCanns? Did they know each other before MAddie went missing?

dilli-theclaw 08-01-2008 19:04

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
MMMmmm - I read this and re read it... I'm just not sure what to say.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3154222.ece

zing_deleted 08-01-2008 19:12

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Its sick

RizzyKing 08-01-2008 19:31

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
^^:clap: It is this sort of thing that for me says this is less about maddie and more about the parents. I couldn't even think about this sort of stuff while one of my kids was missing.

homealone 08-01-2008 19:33

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jefferson T (Post 34466811)
MMMmmm - I read this and re read it... I'm just not sure what to say.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3154222.ece

I can't see it fulfilling any useful purpose, tbh, there have been enough speculative programs about this -adding a film with the potential for more 'interpretation' of the issues serves only to muddy the waters, in my opinion...

dilli-theclaw 08-01-2008 19:35

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
I saw it in the sun first of all and thought they MUST be making it up and dismissed it.

I was out with my dad at the time and couldn't repeat what he said.

Myselt I'm qutie frankly stunned at how stupid it is.

Sirius 08-01-2008 19:36

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
I have my feelings as to what has gone on with that poor child, However i will not be posting them here as i don't want to be flamed to death over it. However the day will come when 2 people are arrested over this mark my words

Damien 08-01-2008 19:42

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
The film company will have more sense than the 'Team McCann" is displaying. They won't make a investment in the film until the McCanns themselves are cleared or, if they are not, they may want to buy the rights while they can.

zing_deleted 08-01-2008 19:44

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34466841)
I have my feelings as to what has gone on with that poor child, However i will not be posting them here as i don't want to be flamed to death over it. However the day will come when 2 people are arrested over this mark my words

I think all the Tapos 6 or whatever they call em now were doing the same thing with their kids

peanut 08-01-2008 20:23

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
I'd rather watch Gone Baby Gone, or will they call it part 2?

budwieser 08-01-2008 20:30

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jefferson T (Post 34466811)
MMMmmm - I read this and re read it... I'm just not sure what to say.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3154222.ece

" Mr Mitchell said: “While it may be hugely entertaining and a bit of fun to think of cast lists, "

Excuse me, I don`t think that there is anything hugely entertaining and a bit of fun about a missing 4 year old girl who has still not been found and this makes me sick to my stomach!!!!!!!.:mad:
Zing said it`s sick but i think its worse than that, i`ll hold my tongue for fear of getting banned.:confused:

dilli-theclaw 08-01-2008 20:32

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
What's sad is that you can bet it'll be watched by millions of people.

budwieser 08-01-2008 20:37

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jefferson T (Post 34466869)
What's sad is that you can bet it'll be watched by millions of people.

Not by me.
Call me stupid if you like, I`d still like to beleive that she`ll be found safe and sound and nothing `bad` has happened to her.:shrug:

iglu 08-01-2008 20:43

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34466846)
The film company will have more sense than the 'Team McCann" is displaying. They won't make a investment in the film until the McCanns themselves are cleared or, if they are not, they may want to buy the rights while they can.

They could make a film with multiple endings:

Ending 1: McCanns end up in prison & sign a contract pfizer to promote sedatives for children
Ending 2: Murat in prison, his girlfriend leaves her husband and moves with his mother
Ending 3: detectives find Madeleine in Morocco working as a child labourer
Ending 4: Professor Ian Wilmut clones Madeleine from the DNA found in the car, amen!
Ending 5: The "tapas 9" die from cirrhosis after drinking 69 bottles of plonk.

Any other ideas?

Damien 08-01-2008 21:02

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 34466873)
Not by me.
Call me stupid if you like, I`d still like to believe that she`ll be found safe and sound and nothing `bad` has happened to her.:shrug:

I think we'll all like to believe that, unfortunately wishful thinking doesn't make it so. I think very few people expect she will be found now.

Mr Angry 08-01-2008 21:46

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
The natives are getting restless.

Arthurgray50@blu 09-01-2008 23:46

Re: [MERGED] Madeleine McCann
 
From tonights Tv show Richard and Judy show, it is NOT film, but a documentary which will be used for not only Maddie but for other missing children, and any money made will be placed in the fund, l think they are doing this, as funds must be fast run out, and they are getting desperate, but l think that newspapers in this country and european ones have to keep the pressure up and tell the TRUTH, there must be thousands of children and young adults that are missing, and if the documetary produces finance and also results in finding missing kids, they have my support:)


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:43.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum