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Why does it, there's not a bin everywhere they could have done a quick nappy change, roled up the wet nappy and chucked it in the back til they got back. Still could have been disposable.
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Hello all, l should have been a detective as l have been proved yet again, in regards to the Maddie affair, the article regarding the article by HomR, regarding the missing girl before Maddie, there was an article in TODAYS press, that she was found TODAY. It looks very much like the McCanns are going to be free from the Portugese torture, the only question is now, is where is poor Maddie, you see l always look at the facts, before jumping the gun.:)
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Todays press? As in newspaper? So how would they know she was found today if the newspaper was printed yesterday? :confused: |
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any one got a link for this ? i cant see a thing about it
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The only article that I could find was dated September 15, 2007 - 5:59 PM
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Although Maddy is mentioned, this kidnapping (which only happened on July 31 2007) and subsequent murder of five-year-old Ylenia Lenhard happened in St Gallen, Switzerland. The link with Portugal seems to have arisen as her suspected murderer, Swiss national Urs Hans von Aesch 67, only returned to Switzerland at the beginning of July, he had been living in Benimantell near Benidorm in Spain with his wife since 1990 and now appears to be suspected of being involved with other cases of missing children. |
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I wonder where this will lead?
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Tis strange, dark skinned morrocan carrying a fair skinned child.
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When I first saw that picture I had to laugh..... Does that women carrying 'maddie' looks like she needed to kidnap a kid, just so she can ferry her around on her back. Im sorry but it doesnt make sense why a kidnapper of the most hunted for child in current times would be carrying her on her back just like that!
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Latest fantasy leaked by the Portuguese police - Telegraph
Was this before or after they had killed her with an overdose of sedatives?:dozey: "The latest theory is that Madeleine fell down the 10 steps outside the family’s Mark Warner holiday apartment in Praia Da Luz and hit the back of her head. She landed on the hard ceramic flagstone and suffered severe trauma, it was alleged by tabloid newspaper 24 Horas. The paper said police believe Mr and Mrs McCann then tried to cover up the accident and disposed of the body because they were afraid they would be accused of killing their child. They may even have enlisted the help of some of their friends who were on holiday with them in the Algarve, it was claimed." |
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I'm beginning to believe the Portuguese police are as nutty as squirrel turds.
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I thought there was going to be news of a real breakthrough yesterday, when during the BBC 6 o'clock news they announced "breaking news in the Madeleine McCann case". They even wheeled in their correspondent who normally reports from Portugal, to give us this news.
It turns out it was only to report that the Portuguese detective leading the investigation has been sacked for accusing the British police of helping the McCanns to cover up their role in Madeleine's disappearance. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2577284.ece . |
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'Only'? That's the first genuine news development in this case for weeks!
At least we now know who the nut-case inside the Portuguese police is, who has been leaking insinuations about the McCann's involvement to the local media out there. |
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'Missing person machine'????
What next - Scooby and the Gang? - "Jeepers it was old Man Peterson all the time!" |
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There's a Dispatches Special on Channel 4 tonight at 9pm.
9.00pm Searching for Madeleine: A Dispatches Special A team including five of the UK's best-qualified criminal investigators travel to Praia de Luz to review the Portuguese investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Led by retired DCS Chris Stevenson, who headed the Soham enquiry in 2002, they analyse important moments in the near-six-month case putting forward how they would have responded to key areas of it. |
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/Deletes another outbreak of offtopicness
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There were a few interesting points raised in the program. The thumb prints on the shutters (were they from someone being on the inside or outside?). Were the large wheelie bins searched before being emptied overnight?
The ending seemed to be a bit rushed though. The expert at the end appeared to be cut off mid sentence when the programme finished. It looks like the other members of the party are going to be re-interviewed by Portugese police:- http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...289313,00.html Perhaps it has something to do with reports that the McCann's 3 children were not alone in their apartment that night, and a member of the party (Russell O’Brien) was missing from the tapas restaurant for 25 minutes, apparently tending his sick daughter. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...=null&offset=0 . |
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I notice they're back in the news yet again. I know a little girl is still (dead) missing, but I really wish the McCann's would just feck off off our screens now.
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I saw a bit of the interview last night on the news. Kate McCann didn't do herself any favours at all by refusing to answer the question as to whether they sedated their children!
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Well surely if they hadn't sedated their children it would be the easiest thing to answer and no one in their right mind if asked would not answer if they hadn't been i find that alone quite disturbing. While i still cling to the hope she will be found alive even i am now slowly coming round to the fact she is dead. As to who did it and why they did it hopefully time will tell and the guilty ones whoever they are will recieve a suitable punishment.
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And I agree there's only a limit that the public can and will take before they get sick of them altogether, and it's very close to it at the moment. And by now I think it's also past the point of everyone is desensitized by the whole thing now and the emotion of hope of the girls return is now pretty much over. So from here on in, they could start to grate on people. |
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Saw this item on VM's news pages about how Portuguese police staged a reconstruction. The article also mentions that the McCann's have used donations from the fund to pay for a couple of mortgage payments on their house.
http://www.virginmedia.com/news/uk/u...oryid=15628018 . |
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Took them a long while to do a reconstruction, thought it is a step in the right direction if it ain't a little too late. I think the group they were with at the tapas bar are still 'dodgy' and not giving all the info they can.
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If they feel they cant go back to work, should mortgage payments continue to be paid from the fund? I think not.
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There are a few more articles about the mortgage payments here:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../wmaddy230.xml http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...11&expand=true So, if they hadn't become formal suspects, I assume the mortgage payments would have continued. I wonder how many people who contributed towards the fund, particularly in the early days, knew exactly what it could be used for? It wouldn't be so bad if they said that they would pay it back when they resumed work, but Clarence said nothing about that. ---------- Post added at 16:58 ---------- Previous post was at 16:48 ---------- Quote:
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I'm interested to know where the other £296,000 has gone.
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While it is bad attitude to have as long as maddie is missing i am full of nothng but boredom. I really don't give a tinkers cuss about kate or gerry mc'cann from what i have seen of them both on tv and in the press they don't strike me as brilliant people. As for the fund well i will not be giving another penny to it as an early donator (not much but what i could afford) i don't feel it was right to pay the mortgage of a cardiologist and a gp who are on better money then most of those that donated. To be honest until she is found be it dead or more hopefully alive i am not interested in it and i certainly have no interest in this pr exercise that is going on.
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To be fair, the fund was set up with the goal of providing assistance to the McCanns and their costs. Not working and needing to pay their mortgage should count.
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All i saw was the bit about it being to find maddie and to do anything to help do that and thats why i and i think many others donated.
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A bag of clothes containing DNA linked to Madeleine McCann has been discovered dumped by a road in Portugal.
The bag is believed to contain a blue fleece jacket and a pair of adult jeans with traces of DNA which may have come from Maddie. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770 http://www.virginmedia.com/news/madeleinemccann/ . |
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It was found 2 weeks ago? - I thought DNA tests took longer than 2 weeks
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Or in Portugal 5 minutes if it helps their cause.
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I am not laying any blame as i don't feel qualified to judge but speaking as a parent....I live in bungalow so there are no stairs just the ground level, as I live in a rural location I used to be able to leave my windows fully open at night without any worries. I then became a parent and even when I was inside my own home at night with the windows open and only in a different room from my son, I felt for his safety so now they stay closed. It just puts my mind at rest, and I could never of personally gone out to eat and left my kids sleeping.
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Right from the start this couple have done nothing right, starting with leaving their kids alone. Its almost like they are trying to screw it up.
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While I am no fan of Kate & Gerry McCann, for reasons I've given many times in this thread, at the end of the day Madeleine is still officially "missing". Whether she has been abducted, or has been killed, I cannot see how implying that she will never return home was remotely funny (and certainly not worthy of 3 "big grins"). |
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Well been an interesting week with some of the so called friends alledgedly wanting to change their statements. Now it has been reported albeit by the sun that between them kate and gerry mc'cann were absent in some form or another for a total of two hours on the night in question. It was the last bit that strikes more alarm as if between them between those hours of 19.30 and 22.00 one or the other were with the kids thats a very very small window of oppurtunity for an abduction and if the abductor was watching would he really have taken a chance with the parents coming and going so regular.
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yeah, but everytime it's a slow news day, one of the papers seems to make something up - so I don't really have too much faith in anything that any of them say
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Hence my caution but if it is confirmed by a reputable source then it raises some unpleasant questions.
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Jane Tanner's interview with the BBC will be shown next Monday on Panorama at 9pm. She is the friend of the McCanns who claimed she saw a man carrying Madeleine away.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7098390.stm One thing that puzzles me, is this:- "Ms Tanner described how a friend came to her holiday apartment to tell her Madeleine had gone at about 10pm." I was always under the impression that all the friends were still at the tappas bar when Kate McCann came back to say "They have taken her". |
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Private investigators searching for Madeleine say they are 100% certain that she is still alive, and that they are very, very close to finding the kidnapper.
http://www.virginmedia.com/news/worl...oryid=16593822 Seems like a bit of a bold statement for anyone to make. . |
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Just had a chance to watch Panorama again. The programme seemed to raise more questions than it answered.
One of the things that Gerry McCann said in one of the earlier interviews, was that the parents took it in turns to check up on eachother's children. This wasn't strictly true, as the programme showed, Gerry McCann only checked on his own children at "just after" 9pm, Jane Tanner checked on her own children at 9.15pm, but Matthew Oldfield claimed that he checked on the McCann children at 9.30, but strangely only saw the twins and not Madeleine through the open bedroom door (even though Madeleine was in between the twins?). It does make me wonder if Mr Oldfield checked on them at all. I wonder if the others kept their doors locked & the McCanns didn't? Jane Tanner's claim that she was back in her apartment by 10pm is a bit odd. She said she checked on her children at 9.15, before the starter was served at the tapas bar. Assuming she was gone for just 10 minutes, that means she had the starter, main course & possibly a dessert, and got back to her apartment in the space of 35 minutes. I wonder why she left the tapas bar earlier than any of the others? Another fact that emerged, was that Gerry McCann also said "They have taken her" when he phoned his sister. He used the same strange words as Kate did, when she returned to the tapas bar! The most interesting part of the programme was when they interviewed Kate McCann's Mother, Susan Healey. She said "Well I have to say that I'm suprised that Kate & Gerry left their children at all, and I thought about it a lot because they are such caring parents, and I think, why?" If she can say that in public, it makes you think what she has said in private! Also, I wonder why Kate was so desperate to talk to her priest that night. When she phoned her Mother, she asked her for the phone number of Father Paul Seddon, the priest who married the McCanns & baptised Madeleine. Even her Mother seemed suprised by this. I wonder if either of them has ever been asked what they talked about? |
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You are Robert Murat.
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it is all so strange isn't it. I feel guilty for reading it daily ! but it kind of gets you fascinated by the whole tradgic case..
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Reading it daily? You must be an Express reader ;)
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There is a lot more to this case than is being told in the official media particularly about the McCann's lifestyle.
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That's what always bothered me about this everyone's initial reaction seems to have been "she's been abducted". If i left a four year old sleeping in an apartment and went back at some point and she wasn't there first thing that would come to me was that she had woken up and gone looking for me. Not so the mc'canns who right from the getgo knew she had been abducted. The fact that all these friends that were there can't seem to get thier stories straight also puzzles me. I think there is a hell of a lot we don't know about this and for that reason we shouldn't say oneway or the other who or what happened to the little girl.
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I found it very unsettling when Gerry McCann tried to suggest that the abductor may have drugged the children in the Panorama documentary. That seems so ridiculous (presumably the abductor would have done it to prevent the children making any noise, but if he could get access to drug them quietly then why niot take them at the same time?) that it really felt like he was trying to cover himself in case any evidence of sedatives is ever found. |
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If we accept the version of events that team mc'cann offer up we have an abductor that only had a few minutes to abduct maddie (due to all the friends and the mc'canns coming and going) but in that time maddie was drugged and cuddle cat was placed on high. Yeah like i fully believe that i still don't think they killed maddie but i do believe they have done something in relation to the kids that they are very worried about it becoming public. Maybe they were sedating their kids as i am not a doctor i don't know if that would be big trouble for them but personally i think it would. I just think back to all the parents of previous abdutee's non of them needed a personal PR person and i as i think many will agree never see the good in anything PR is involved in.
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Are you guys STILL going on about this? geez....let it rest already.
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If your not interested, don't read it. Quite simple really. :rolleyes: |
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OK, that's enough of that thank you
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I think I've now read just about every scenario going so far, she's dead, alive, it's him, it's her, it's back to him and today she was killed by a peado etc etc x10, it's like stick the tail on a donkey basically.
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[MERGED] Madeleine Mcann
Sadly, we have another advert on TV for the missing Maddie, and a sad one, even l had a tear in my eye, we have an private investigator, who promised us that she would be home for Xmas, they also claimed, that they know where she is, so why don't they go in a get her, but what angers me more than anything, is that there is someone out there, who know where she is, and won't say anything, And l know what people might think, there are other people out there, that are missing at this joyous time of year, but maybe, with the campaign with Maddie, will highlight the sadness of others at this time of year, lets hope this draws to a close very soon:)
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They probably won't go and get her if they feared her life was in danger
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The private investigation team have now admitted they have no idea where she is, saying if they did know they wouldn't wait until Christmas to get her.
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Hi MrAngry, l think that was the best comment, l have heard, even now after hearing the news, on TV, that there is a possibility that Phedos have her, as police are now looking, after seven months, for bag, big enough to carry a body, and yet the private investigators have opened a new office, and could they call it ' McCANN HOUSE' after all, it was the fund that paid for it, l think it has been a sick scam, by Metodor 3, and l don't think they have a damned idea where she is.:mad::mad::mad::mad:
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The claims made by this PI company always seemed too good to be true. Claiming that they knew who took her, and that she would be home by Christmas just didn't seem to add up.
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Is anyone on the PI team/company friends of the McCanns? Did they know each other before MAddie went missing?
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MMMmmm - I read this and re read it... I'm just not sure what to say.
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^^:clap: It is this sort of thing that for me says this is less about maddie and more about the parents. I couldn't even think about this sort of stuff while one of my kids was missing.
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I saw it in the sun first of all and thought they MUST be making it up and dismissed it.
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I have my feelings as to what has gone on with that poor child, However i will not be posting them here as i don't want to be flamed to death over it. However the day will come when 2 people are arrested over this mark my words
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The film company will have more sense than the 'Team McCann" is displaying. They won't make a investment in the film until the McCanns themselves are cleared or, if they are not, they may want to buy the rights while they can.
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I'd rather watch Gone Baby Gone, or will they call it part 2?
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Excuse me, I don`t think that there is anything hugely entertaining and a bit of fun about a missing 4 year old girl who has still not been found and this makes me sick to my stomach!!!!!!!.:mad: Zing said it`s sick but i think its worse than that, i`ll hold my tongue for fear of getting banned.:confused: |
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What's sad is that you can bet it'll be watched by millions of people.
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Call me stupid if you like, I`d still like to beleive that she`ll be found safe and sound and nothing `bad` has happened to her.:shrug: |
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Ending 1: McCanns end up in prison & sign a contract pfizer to promote sedatives for children Ending 2: Murat in prison, his girlfriend leaves her husband and moves with his mother Ending 3: detectives find Madeleine in Morocco working as a child labourer Ending 4: Professor Ian Wilmut clones Madeleine from the DNA found in the car, amen! Ending 5: The "tapas 9" die from cirrhosis after drinking 69 bottles of plonk. Any other ideas? |
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The natives are getting restless.
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From tonights Tv show Richard and Judy show, it is NOT film, but a documentary which will be used for not only Maddie but for other missing children, and any money made will be placed in the fund, l think they are doing this, as funds must be fast run out, and they are getting desperate, but l think that newspapers in this country and european ones have to keep the pressure up and tell the TRUTH, there must be thousands of children and young adults that are missing, and if the documetary produces finance and also results in finding missing kids, they have my support:)
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