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liamboyle06 16-11-2005 13:53
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'Ballack Offered Record Deal'

Man Utd are reportedly set to offer Michael Ballack a deal that would make the German the highest-paid player in the history of the Premiership. Ballack will be available on a Bosman free next summer but he could still cost Man Utd a cool £30m.

http://www.football365.com/teams/man...y_168725.shtml

I personally think that would be an outstanding signing for Fergie, if he gets him. I suspect that Real Madrid will be keeping a very close eye on him as well and jump in to snatch him away.
Ballack is a world class performer and united are lacking that a bit at the minute.

yesman 16-11-2005 15:02
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An Arsenal fan walks past a shop and sees the video "Arsenal the glory years".... he goes in and asks how much... the shopkeeper says £150.00 ... thats a bit steep aint it, why is it so expensive... well its £10.00 for the video and £140.00 for the Betamax recorder. :D

gazzae 16-11-2005 15:11
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Ballack To Stay At Bayern?

Man Utd may be reportedly set to offer Michael Ballack a £30m deal that would make the German the highest-paid player in the history of the Premiership, but the German midfielder is now hinting that he may stay at Bayern Munich after all.

http://www.football365.com/news/story_168761.shtml

sherer 16-11-2005 15:27
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well if we get Ballack that will be great.. would love to see us get someone younger but who else is there.. if we get him at least we will be thinking long term rather than missing out on yet another target

iadom 16-11-2005 17:53
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Originally Posted by sherer
damn can't get flash player to install from work to view the Nike wesbite.. ad is meant to be pretty good even if it's not true
Neil posted a link last week .
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...&postcount=308

sherer 17-11-2005 12:38
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thanks for the link.. still can;t get flash to install on machine at work so haven't seen the ad yet.. will check it out at the weekend

seems the Turkey players have been their usual well behaved selves and gracious in defaeat as always

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/4444566.stm

i wonder if England would be able to get away with something like this.. willbe interesting to see what FIFA, who dreamt up the Fifa Fair Play idea actually do

gazzae 17-11-2005 12:42
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Abramovich orders probe into Chelski 'crisis'

If it's possible for a multi-billionaire to throw his toys out of the pram then Chelski owner Roman Abramovich has done it after ordering a probe into the table-toppers' apparent 'slump'. Oh the utter indignity of losing a match in the Premiership!

[...]

The findings of the probe are unknown, but presumably they may go something along the lines of 'even if you spend £300m your club still might lose the occasional football match.'

http://www.football365.com/teams/chelsea/story_168804.

gazzae 17-11-2005 12:44
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Keane Out And Captain Ballack In This Summer?
ManYoo have reportedly decided not to offer Roy Keane a new deal.

The Sun says the club will let the Irishman leave next summer when his present contract expires but only after giving 'their skipper a £5million testimonial at the end of this season as a golden farewell.'

ccording to The Daily Mirror, Ferguson 'is ready to offer Michael Ballack the Manchester United captaincy to ensure he wins the race to sign the German midfielder.

The paper says that ManYoo are 'convinced' Ballack will sign a pre-contract agreement with them in January.

The King is dead, long live the King...

http://www.football365.com/teams/man...y_168801.shtml

Chrysalis 17-11-2005 22:45
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the chelski link is 404, damn these sites dont keep articles up for long :(

gazzae 18-11-2005 00:11
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That was my fault.

http://www.football365.com/teams/che...y_168804.shtml

yesman 18-11-2005 12:15
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Ronaldo extends contract :tu:

BBC Sport

liamboyle06 18-11-2005 13:30
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Keane Leaves United
read here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/4449396.stm

What a disaster for United.

Derek 18-11-2005 13:30
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/4449396.stm

Roy Keane leave Man U!

Bets on him signing for Celtic?

gazzae 18-11-2005 13:33
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Odds on I reckon.

gazzae 18-11-2005 13:39
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Originally Posted by liamboyle06
What a disaster for United.
might give them the kick up the **** to find a replacement

gazzae 18-11-2005 13:52
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Apparently Fergie and Keane had a big arguement at Carrington. Fergie then stripped Keane of the captaincy and Keane stormed out, quitting the club.

nffc 18-11-2005 13:55
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Evans has gone to Rotherham, Keane's the right age for a Megson buy. SIGN HIM UP!

Nugget 18-11-2005 14:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dezzo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/4449396.stm

Roy Keane leave Man U!

Bets on him signing for Celtic?
I don't think it's that much of a surprise that he's gone (although I suppose the fact that he's going in November is pretty full on). After all the hassle of the last few weeks, I'd have thought that it would be difficult to reconcile himself with some of the players he 'allegedly' ;) mentioned in that programme.

I also don't feel that he's anywhere near the player that he ws, through a combination of age and some of the injuries that he's suffered, so personally (and as someone who doesn't have any feeling one way or the other for Man U) I think it's probably for the best.

TBH, it started to come across as Keane thinking that he was bigger than the club, so was bound to end this way eventually.

gazzae 18-11-2005 14:12
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Originally Posted by Nugget
I also don't feel that he's anywhere near the player that he ws, through a combination of age and some of the injuries that he's suffered, so personally (and as someone who doesn't have any feeling one way or the other for Man U) I think it's probably for the best.
Keano not being the player he was is still better than the majority of players in the prem.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nugget
TBH, it started to come across as Keane thinking that he was bigger than the club, so was bound to end this way eventually.
He just wants to win. He's not afraid to say what he thinks.
I remember him talking about the dressing room when forest got relegated and some players were laughing and joking, he said he couldn't believe what he was seeing.

Nugget 18-11-2005 14:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzae
Keano not being the player he was is still better than the majority of players in the prem.
I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you there - it's just that, IMO, his age is now contributing to a number of injuries that are keeping him out of the team more often than he plays. That's not a criticism of Keane - it would be difficult for most players of his age to stand up to the pressures of the Premiership.


Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzae
He just wants to win. He's not afraid to say what he thinks.
I remember him talking about the dressing room when forest got relegated and some players were laughing and joking, he said he couldn't believe what he was seeing.
But, again IMO, as the Club Captain, he does still have a responsibility (to a certain degree) to 'toe the party line'. Just because thousands of supporters may feel exactly the same way as him, he shouldn't just slag off half of the team in a TV programme. Unfortunately, Roy Keane is / was a fantastic football player, and I believe it is unrealistic for him to think that efery player will match his (admittedly high) standards.

gazzae 18-11-2005 14:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nugget
But, again IMO, as the Club Captain, he does still have a responsibility (to a certain degree) to 'toe the party line'. Just because thousands of supporters may feel exactly the same way as him, he shouldn't just slag off half of the team in a TV programme. Unfortunately, Roy Keane is / was a fantastic football player, and I believe it is unrealistic for him to think that efery player will match his (admittedly high) standards.
But he doesn't, he expects players to put effort in. Like he was supposed to have criticised O'Shea cause at times he was strolling back rather than busting a gut.

Hes criticised players in the past, but this time he named them which probably was a step too far. I think his drive to win is at fault here, he knew he had little time left at Man Utd to win the european cup again - as he has said he doesn't feel like he has won it, even though without keane utd wouldn't have been in the final. Its probably a case of his heart overruling his head.

Nugget 18-11-2005 14:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzae
But he doesn't, he expects players to put effort in. Like he was supposed to have criticised O'Shea cause at times he was strolling back rather than busting a gut.

Hes criticised players in the past, but this time he named them which probably was a step too far. I think his drive to win is at fault here, he knew he had little time left at Man Utd to win the european cup again - as he has said he doesn't feel like he has won it, even though without keane utd wouldn't have been in the final. Its probably a case of his heart overruling his head.
I think you're probably right - it's just a shame that it ends like this really...

BBKing 18-11-2005 14:43
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Where's yer captain gone?

At least Vieira left in reasonably amicable circumstances - this sounds more like a messy divorce.

gazzae 18-11-2005 15:12
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Cobh Ramblers have a playoff coming up soon, could we see Keano lining up for his old club? Or Cork play Derry tonight in the Premier Division decider, maybe Keano's on his way to Cork as we speak.

gazzae 18-11-2005 15:15
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Quote:
RONALDO SET TO BE CLEARED

Manchester United midfielder Cristiano Ronaldo is set to be cleared over allegations that he raped a woman in a hotel suite, according to a report.

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) is expected to announce "within days" that there is insufficient evidence to prosecute the Portugal international winger, London's Evening Standard said.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football...&TEAMHD=soccer

Nugget 18-11-2005 15:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BBKing
Where's yer captain gone?

At least Vieira left in reasonably amicable circumstances - this sounds more like a messy divorce.
Well, they were reasonably amicable by the end - however, you shouldn't forget the two years of dithering before then ;)

sherer 18-11-2005 16:51
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i can't believe keano's gone.. as gazzae has said it's his drive and committment to win that we will miss the most.. the levels of effort he put in put the rest of the team to shame.. without him on the pitch i'm never too confident about our performance and now he's not there with no replacement

him and Fergie were too strong willed and neither will back down in an arguement.. blame Fergie more as we never got a replacement for him in the summer and his management of the team and tactics of late haven't been the best either

just hope we get Ballack in Jan now.. if we don't we will be even worse off.. although i don't really see Ballack as the new Keane either more a Scholes type player

BBKing 18-11-2005 17:20
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you shouldn't forget the two years of dithering before then
True, but we got the best years out of him and £10m profit. United have got a hole in midfield and a PR crisis. Dear oh dear.

gazzae 18-11-2005 17:36
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Originally Posted by BBKing
True, but we got the best years out of him and £10m profit. United have got a hole in midfield and a PR crisis. Dear oh dear.
You could have got a £20mill profit if you'd sold him the season before. But then we would have missed out on Keane scaring the crap out of him in the tunnel - and the moment of the season, the Nevillier's handshake.

BBKing 18-11-2005 23:19
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Are most United fans (proper ones, not plastic ones from Tunbridge):
a) Behind the manager and glad to see the back of the troublesomeMr. Keane
b) Behind Mr. Keane and highly p!ssed off at the manner of his departure

The ones I know are firmly in b. PR crisis, as I said.


Vieira:
£10m for one season where we won the F.A. Cup and beat United in the league for the third time in four years and beat Spurs home and away for the first time in 16 years? Sounds fair enough to me. Good luck to him - if the rumours of the effects of playing for the last ten years with one leg 3 inches longer than the other on his physiognomy are true, he'll need it.

Russ 18-11-2005 23:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BBKing
Are most United fans (proper ones, not plastic ones from Tunbridge):
a) Behind the manager and glad to see the back of the troublesomeMr. Keane
b) Behind Mr. Keane and highly p!ssed off at the manner of his departure

The ones I know are firmly in b. PR crisis, as I said.
No, we're probably c): Behind whatever the player wants to do and will hope our team can bounce back from this and learn from it.

Sorry if it's not the answer you were after.

yesman 19-11-2005 03:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BBKing
Are most United fans (proper ones, not plastic ones from Tunbridge):

The ones I know are firmly in b. PR crisis, as I said.
Quote:
a) Behind the manager and glad to see the back of the troublesome Mr. Keane
I am behind Manchester United the football club, no one person is greater than the club itself, not Keane or even Sir Alex Ferguson.

Troublesome ? You only have to looke here to see that his record over the years is impeccable :erm:
He was a great team leader on the pitch, even though his reputation sometimes preceded him.

Quote:
b) Behind Mr. Keane and highly p!ssed off at the manner of his departure
Obviously the manner of his departure is open to speculation from the media and such like, a player of his age with such a long service would normally see out their contract, but on this ocassion, the media have probably got the reasons about right.
He is 35 next birthday and was probably on his way out of the door anyway.
The club will move on from this as will the fans given time, although I think his name will be chanted on the terraces for many matches to come.

The name of Roy Keane will be written in the history of the club as one of the legends.

Time to move on methinks.

pedantic 19-11-2005 15:48
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BREAKING NEWS !!

Arsenal win away ! :eeek:

Russ 19-11-2005 17:52
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It'll be nice to see the Arsenal supporters online on a saturday for a change then ;)

sherer 19-11-2005 17:56
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and Man U win with 2 goals and Ruud and one from Smith

nffc 19-11-2005 18:36
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We win as well...

yesman 20-11-2005 11:06
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Quote:
Former Bayern Munich coach Ottmar Hitzfeld has claimed Manchester United have offered him a position.
BBC Sport

avid.merrion 20-11-2005 11:13
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Swansea Top of the League :)

Russ 20-11-2005 12:06
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Originally Posted by avid.merrion
Swansea Top of the League :)
Innit great! But I have a nasty feeling that the ossum Sir Lee of Trundleshire will be gone in January..... :cry:

sherer 20-11-2005 12:52
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Originally Posted by yesman
yeah i read this as well and it seems strange that he's not saying manager but job.. also surely someone with his experience would keep this quiet until the job was announced officially

could more be just to put his name back on the market so people know he is available

nffc 20-11-2005 15:51
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Originally Posted by avid.merrion
Swansea Top of the League :)
No thanks to us?

avid.merrion 20-11-2005 17:26
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Yeah a good win, and a nice result for us :) Shame that Trundles other goal was disallowed. What happens when the assitant ref's come from the west country I suppose

sherer 22-11-2005 14:40
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abit worried about tonights game against Villareal tonight as Fergie said we don't have alot of experience in the squad and we need a win.. in the old days we'd just through caution to the wind and get 3 goals in the first half but now Queiroz is there i can't see us doing that and we never as good trying to hold on or defend

yesman 22-11-2005 15:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer
abit worried about tonights game against Villareal tonight as Fergie said we don't have alot of experience in the squad and we need a win.. in the old days we'd just through caution to the wind and get 3 goals in the first half but now Queiroz is there i can't see us doing that and we never as good trying to hold on or defend
I am a bit concerned also, not only about the match, but whether it's going to be on or not, forecast says Manchester is foggy.

Off to Old Trafford, catchya later :disturbd:

akane1984 23-11-2005 10:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yesman
I am a bit concerned also, not only about the match, but whether it's going to be on or not, forecast says Manchester is foggy.

Off to Old Trafford, catchya later :disturbd:
well it was on, and was poor game we showed some quality football in patches. at points i thought ruud was a little of pace compared to saturday. we could do with some variety up front, saha even though i dont rate him 12m!!! comin back is some sort of boost means we can chop n change the attack abit, as sometimes ruud lacks a bit of pace to get onto a ball. were saha could latch onto it in no time.

still hoping n prayin ballack comes. but just don't c it.

sherer 23-11-2005 10:57
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well it was billed as a win or bust game and we couldn't do it.. started brightly but then faded and only had about 2 shots in the second half.. we still play very narrow and don't have any wingers at all.. Ronaldo can't corss the ball to save his life and neither can anyone else in the squad ATM our best crosser is Neville ATM

can't understand why Neville gota run out.. if we were 3-0 up it would have made sense but when we needed to win would have rather we bought on Rossi

think if Ballack or any top players saw that they would never come here.. attack is still doing ok but the prob is they have to all the playmaking themselves and score as they get no service or help from midfield..

not going for a win was a mistake as Benfica can still qualify and will still be going for a win

least Palace had a good result and are now back up to sixth with 2 games in hand

akane1984 23-11-2005 11:11
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right their what top players like ballack will want to come to Utd when we draw 0-0 and could be goin out at group stage were as bayern stroll with 4-0 win lol

fergie has to do alot of spending in jan n june we need at least in my mind 3 midfielders two central players and one wide player that can cross!!

a central defender! and possibly if money left over lol another striker.

sherer 23-11-2005 12:28
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agreed we need to spend big and think the priorities are a new Keane.. a new Beckham who still hasn't been replaced.. plus a new Scholes and a Giggs in midfield add in another centre half and a striker and we are there

don't think we have the money to do that at the moment

not heard back from yesman but hope he enjoyed the game

akane1984 23-11-2005 12:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer
agreed we need to spend big and think the priorities are a new Keane.. a new Beckham who still hasn't been replaced.. plus a new Scholes and a Giggs in midfield add in another centre half and a striker and we are there

don't think we have the money to do that at the moment

not heard back from yesman but hope he enjoyed the game
i don't think we can replace keane but we need players of world standard. i think likes of ballack/graveson/duscher/milito/mascherano/ would all be prime candidates.

yesman 23-11-2005 14:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer
agreed we need to spend big and think the priorities are a new Keane.. a new Beckham who still hasn't been replaced.. plus a new Scholes and a Giggs in midfield add in another centre half and a striker and we are there

don't think we have the money to do that at the moment

not heard back from yesman but hope he enjoyed the game
The game was diabolical, plus it took 7 hours to get home :mad:

Basic tactics were missing, and that has to be down to the coaching.
Villareal didn't come to win, but came to make sure they didn't lose the game which didn't make the game very entertaining anyway.
Why Neville was brought on for Wes Brown beggars belief, Brown has been one of the better players of recent matches.
O'Shea seems to be out of his depth and can't manage to string two passes together with his team mates.

Heads should roll but probably wont while Ferguson is in charge.

The current players I would keep that played last night would be.......
Van Der Sar
Scholes
Rooney
Ronaldo
Nistelrooy (has played better since being made captain)
The rest can go as far as I am concerned and they can take Queiroz (sp) ?
with them

yesman 23-11-2005 14:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer
a new Beckham who still hasn't been replaced..
IMO there will be one soon, keep an eye out for a player called Markus Neumayr, he is in the reserves at the moment and looks promising.

sherer 23-11-2005 14:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yesman
The game was diabolical, plus it took 7 hours to get home :mad:

Basic tactics were missing, and that has to be down to the coaching.
Villareal didn't come to win, but came to make sure they didn't lose the game which didn't make the game very entertaining anyway.
Why Neville was brought on for Wes Brown beggars belief, Brown has been one of the better players of recent matches.
O'Shea seems to be out of his depth and can't manage to string two passes together with his team mates.

Heads should roll but probably wont while Ferguson is in charge.

The current players I would keep that played last night would be.......
Van Der Sar
Scholes
Rooney
Ronaldo
Nistelrooy (has played better since being made captain)
The rest can go as far as I am concerned and they can take Queiroz (sp) ?
with them
i've had the same prob coming out of OT... now we leave a few mins early.. hate doing it but will never get home otherwise

O'Shea is terrible at the moment as are a few others.. this was a must win match and we couldn't do it.. prob is the same one we've had for a few years in that the ball doesn't come from the midfield to the strikers and we are too narrow

i've not been impressed with VDS so far.. he's made a few mistakes and doesn't always know when to come or not
Scholes is getting too old and can't perform to the levels he used to a few years ago.. he wasn't that great last night either

out of the side that played last night id keep

Rio ( but he needs to start performing like a 30m defender )
Silvestre ( as cover for a new CB)
Brown
Ronaldo ( but convert into a proper winger )
Rooney
Ruud

have heard of that younster but not seem him play

play last night was very bad at times with no real clue what to do.. if Villarreal had their full side out they could have beaten us

yesman 23-11-2005 15:04
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The rot may be setting in...........

BBC Biz

sherer 23-11-2005 16:26
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yeah i read that already.. not good news as we aren't as actractive as we used to be

one thing i meant to ask was did you hear any booing at the final wistle.. thought i heard some but can't always tell on TV

also were the "flowers of manchester" and the "28 Years" banners up at the Stretford End.. when i was there for a league game i've noticed they take them down now

akane1984 23-11-2005 16:47
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the only good side to vodaphone ending shirt sponsor is United can hopefully go out and get a new multi million pound deal somewhere else, then add to that havin to make whole batch of new shirts alot of income to help with current situation. . i know i would buy new shirts out of support.

yesman 23-11-2005 17:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer
one thing i meant to ask was did you hear any booing at the final wistle.. thought i heard some but can't always tell on TV
Yes there was quite a bit

Quote:
also were the "flowers of manchester" and the "28 Years" banners up at the Stretford End.. when i was there for a league game i've noticed they take them down now
Yes they were there, and at the east end was a banner for Keano which read.....

KEANE 1993 - 2005 RED LEGEND

yesman 23-11-2005 18:10
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In fact here it is.

Shadow Demon UK 23-11-2005 21:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer
also were the "flowers of manchester" and the "28 Years" banners up at the Stretford End.. when i was there for a league game i've noticed they take them down now
I thought they had taken them down and were asking for people to put new ones up? Maybe i was wrong going by what Yesman has said :confused:

nffc 24-11-2005 00:43
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Originally Posted by yesman
<snip>

KEANE 1990 - 1993 RED LEGEND
Better...

Chrysalis 24-11-2005 01:32
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I see 90% of man u fans still think they have to buy success and the solution isnt tactics and on the training pitch.

akane1984 24-11-2005 09:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis
I see 90% of man u fans still think they have to buy success and the solution isnt tactics and on the training pitch.
arent chelski buyin success??? :p:

sherer 24-11-2005 11:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK
I thought they had taken them down and were asking for people to put new ones up? Maybe i was wrong going by what Yesman has said :confused:
i think what is happening is that during champions league games it just has boards showinh that stars pattern.. during league games we have sponsors boards there and whoever pays for those baords never get to see them as the banners are covering them.. so i think they take them away and then put them back for Euro games.. won't see them much more this season then..

will have a check next leage game i go to

the problem we have is that with Queiroz we are playing negative tactics and trying to hold onto leads.. we look far better going forwards than we ever have down trying to defend.. it's been the same the whole way through our history.. it was always a case of if you score 2 we will score 3.. now we have an ageing team who are being told to play differently to how they have their whole career and instead of playing 4-4-2 with wingers like we always have and been fluid we are now too narrow.. we never replaced Beckham and the only winger we have is Giggs who has been off form for 2 and a half years.. played as a striker as well and too old to go past anyone

our younsters aren't quite there yet, although i don't think they can do any worse than what we have and should be given a chance. Rossi, Pique look pretty good and we have a few others as well

Russ 24-11-2005 11:20
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
I see 90% of man u fans still think they have to buy success and the solution isnt tactics and on the training pitch.
Every team strengthens their team - but ones like Chelsea bring in handfuls of new players and if they don't work, they just throw them away like a kid in a sweetshop sampling the ones he likes.

Shadow Demon UK 24-11-2005 11:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer
i think what is happening is that during champions league games it just has boards showinh that stars pattern.. during league games we have sponsors boards there and whoever pays for those baords never get to see them as the banners are covering them.. so i think they take them away and then put them back for Euro games.. won't see them much more this season then..
Theres a very interesting article on wikipedia about it.

It says that supporters took them down at first because of the building work in the stadium and then refused to put them back up as a sign of protest over the Glazer takeover.

It also has a list of the new ones that have been put up, my favourite being "Blue Nose day comic relief for 29 yrs" that was put up against city. :rofl:

Link

sherer 24-11-2005 11:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ D
Every team strengthens their team - but ones like Chelsea bring in handfuls of new players and if they don't work, they just throw them away like a kid in a sweetshop sampling the ones he likes.
unless they called Winston Bogard then they stay for 4 years getting payed load of money a week for doing nothing

akane1984 24-11-2005 11:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer
i think what is happening is that during champions league games it just has boards showinh that stars pattern.. during league games we have sponsors boards there and whoever pays for those baords never get to see them as the banners are covering them.. so i think they take them away and then put them back for Euro games.. won't see them much more this season then..

will have a check next leage game i go to

the problem we have is that with Queiroz we are playing negative tactics and trying to hold onto leads.. we look far better going forwards than we ever have down trying to defend.. it's been the same the whole way through our history.. it was always a case of if you score 2 we will score 3.. now we have an ageing team who are being told to play differently to how they have their whole career and instead of playing 4-4-2 with wingers like we always have and been fluid we are now too narrow.. we never replaced Beckham and the only winger we have is Giggs who has been off form for 2 and a half years.. played as a striker as well and too old to go past anyone

our younsters aren't quite there yet, although i don't think they can do any worse than what we have and should be given a chance. Rossi, Pique look pretty good and we have a few others as well
agreed on all but giggs, i think giggs is one of Utds best performers when hes in the team hes always lively and always turning defenders heads. With age his injuries have become more frequent but if he can get a run in team him on left ronaldo on right and ability for them to switch wings we would be on right track.

i agree the problem is being too defensive and being happy with 1-0s when we cant even hold them.

we still need a few top class central midfielders. and what wingers can we get

sherer 24-11-2005 12:39
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will have to disagree on Giggs.. for over 2 years he hasn't beaten any defenders at all.. most of the time he rus quickly into a defender and looses the ball.. if he is lucky he will run into a defender and the ball may come loose and ge gets past them but 9 times out of 10 he looses the ball.. he doesn't do runs and beat players like he used to.. if he had just come into the team and was 20 and had never had them years to 99 all of us would be stating he is rubbish and shouldn't be in the team.. forget the past and look at what they are doing now.. Giggs and Scholes can't perform for the team any more and need to be replaced.. we have some youngsters in the squad and reserves who could do just as good a job as they are doing now

Nugget 24-11-2005 14:10
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Shocking news from Portsmouth - I honestly didn't see this one coming ;)

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...649721,00.html

Julian 24-11-2005 14:33
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Originally Posted by Nugget
Shocking news from Portsmouth - I honestly didn't see this one coming ;)

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...649721,00.html
A very sad day for football. He needed to stay there a good while longer to finish the excellent job he was doing. :)

Nugget 24-11-2005 14:40
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Originally Posted by Julian
A very sad day for football. He needed to stay there a good while longer to finish the excellent job he was doing. :)
Excellent? You're not a Southampton fan are you?

:disturbd:

Saaf_laandon_mo 24-11-2005 14:53
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Can anyone clarify something for me. Everyone is saying that Liverpool and Chelsea are defianetly through to the next stage of Champions League. Looking at the table chelsea have 10 pts and Real Betis have 7. If real betis win their next game 4-0 and chelsea loose 5-0 then wouldnt betis go through on goal difference? I know its unlikely but how can Chelsea definately be true. Dont get me wrong, I love Chelsea to bits but this has been bugging me all morning

Am I being stupid by over looking some glaring fact?

gazzae 24-11-2005 14:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo
Can anyone clarify something for me. Everyone is saying that Liverpool and Chelsea are defianetly through to the next stage of Champions League. Looking at the table chelsea have 10 pts and Real Betis have 7. If real betis win their next game 4-0 and chelsea loose 5-0 then wouldnt betis go through on goal difference? I know its unlikely but how can Chelsea definately be true. Dont get me wrong, I love Chelsea to bits but this has been bugging me all morning

Am I being stupid by over looking some glaring fact?
Its not worked out on goal difference. Rather on results between the two teams.

sherer 24-11-2005 15:00
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because the table isn's a league table like in the prem.. if two teams are tied then the rules state that it goes to the old European CUp format..i.e the two results from Chelsea and Betis count before goal difference so that would give an aggregate win of 2-1 to Chelsea and they would go through even if their actually goal diff was worse than Betis

Saaf_laandon_mo 24-11-2005 15:10
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Doh! thatnks for clearing that up for me. I thought i was going mad

Nugget 24-11-2005 15:12
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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo
Doh! thatnks for clearing that up for me. I thought i was going mad
Don't worry - you're still going mad. You've just got one less thing to worry about on the way :PP:

Derek 24-11-2005 15:13
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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo
Doh! thatnks for clearing that up for me. I thought i was going mad
You weren't the only one :erm:

Still Rangers will be in Europe after Christmas one way or another. Better than the mob from Snake Mountain :D

Now all we need are a new manager and some players who can actually score goals and appear to want to play for us instead of just picking up a wage.

Oh and to shoot Jeffers and Bernard for being generally pants.

Mal 24-11-2005 16:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akane1984
agreed on all but giggs, i think giggs is one of Utds best performers when hes in the team hes always lively and always turning defenders heads. With age his injuries have become more frequent but if he can get a run in team him on left ronaldo on right and ability for them to switch wings we would be on right track.

i agree the problem is being too defensive and being happy with 1-0s when we cant even hold them.

we still need a few top class central midfielders. and what wingers can we get
In my opinion, Giggs hasn't been in form for quite a while. The only time that he has picked up his game, in the last few years, was when rumours came out about him moving clubs. The kick up the rear syndrome.

Chrysalis 24-11-2005 23:52
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Ok man u fans since you love comparing yourselves to chelsea.

The first season they spent big they didnt have mourinho and did they finish top? no.
The second season where they brought mourinho in they still spent but less then the previous year, he mainly achieved more with the same players as the previous manager had.

Real madrid vs barcelona last week, Real madrids team worth 50% more then barcelona but they were a class apart barcelona easily dominating the game, mainly due to more team spirit and fitness levels.

The fact that man u beat chelsea is proof that the team is capable, the problem is the team isnt up to it against lesser team or/and ferguson is becoming figured out by other managers.

wenger has the same problem at arsenal, his team has become too predictable and results have suffered as a result.

Russ 24-11-2005 23:56
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
Ok man u fans since you love comparing yourselves to chelsea.
Since when have we compared ourselves to Abramovich's plaything?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrysalis
The first season they spent big they didnt have mourinho and did they finish top? no.
The next season they spent BIG again and then won it.

All they needed was any manager with a measure of quality and they were guaranteed success.

iadom 25-11-2005 00:20
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Originally Posted by Russ D





All they needed was any manager with a measure of quality and they were guaranteed success.
And lest we all forget, Jose himself would not have won the Champions League with Porto if Paul Scholes perfectly legitamate goal had not been disallowed.

Chrysalis 25-11-2005 20:17
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Money helps but doesnt garantuee anything, but I think ill give up trying to explain that now. I am of the opinion man u's current squad is more then capable of redoing the triple and their problem lies with the manager and fitness level's.

Mal 26-11-2005 21:28
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I thought that I would post this in this thread, instead of the RIP thread, to keep that peaceful...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BBC News
But a minority of Liverpool and Leeds fans failed to observe the silence and the tribute had to be cut short.

At the City of Manchester Stadium in the game between Liverpool and Manchester City both sets of fans applauded as Best's name was read out.

But some fans of United's bitter rivals Liverpool disturbed the minute's silence, which did not last the full 60 seconds.
Quote:
It was a similar scene at Millwall's New Den where a section of the Leeds fans also led to the tribute being cut short.
:2up:

yesman 26-11-2005 22:19
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It was good to see the majority of football fans being united in paying their respects though.

BBKing 27-11-2005 13:08
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Highbury, of course, was 100% silent, despite both team's fans not being the greatest admirers of Manchester United. Liverpool and Leeds fans should grow up a bit, there are more important things than football sometimes.

My son just said 'Arsenal' for the first time. Great, except that he's been saying 'Chelsea' for months. Grr. Bloody Mourinho.

sherer 27-11-2005 14:48
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yes some people have nothing better to do and are so small minded they can't even respect a minutes silence for one of the greatest players who ever lived and certainly the best player from the UK

it's been the same on some of the message boards as well

hope they find out who did the booing and ban them for life

yesman 27-11-2005 19:03
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West Ham 1 United 2

That was much better, why couldn't they have played like that on Tuesday night, ............................Gits

sherer 27-11-2005 20:00
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still room for improvement though.. we had all the chances and only won 2-1.. throught VDS could have done more for the goal and apart rfom 2 passes Park did nothing

at the moment the best crosser we have in the whole squad is Gary Neville

iadom 27-11-2005 20:18
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Keano is seen leaving by the back door.

Russ 27-11-2005 22:27
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Nice result which sees us overtake arsenal again :)

nffc 28-11-2005 00:33
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marlon......... come back...

sherer 28-11-2005 11:32
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bad result for Palace Luton have now done the double over us.. poor performance too from the reports.. after getting into the play-off places we just can't get any consistancy in our performances.. AJ came onnear the end sp hopefully we will do better next week

akane1984 28-11-2005 11:44
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did anyone see that fergie has mentioned he won't be going for ballack and that he has a top priority signing for july that he has discussed with club and is cup tied in CL at moment and club isnt willing to sell until summer, anyone with any thoughts on mystery star?

sherer 28-11-2005 11:53
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yeah read about the Ballack stuff.. what that actually means is that we lost out to Real Madrid and so Fergie is trying to save face.. Ballack may be similar to Scholes but the difference is that one is still performing and will do for a few more years and the other one hasn't performed consistantly for the past 2 seasons

after seeing the game we need a new keeper.. not been impressed with VDS so far.. he never comes when he should.. punches too often when he can catch the ball instead and could have done more for the goal on Sunday

seeing as we might not be in CL by Xmas getting someone who is cup tied might not be a problem

we have been linked with someone from Benfica, Fernandes i think, so could be him. not sure who else it could be

Nugget 28-11-2005 11:57
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There's no point in any of your teams even bothering anymore :shrug:

2 wins out of 2 for Villa just means that we'll have the league sorted by the end of January ;) :D

akane1984 28-11-2005 12:05
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tellin you now, keeper is least of our problems, not VDS fault the defence was carved to pieces for first goal! and fact that fergie has conceded to madrid for ballack shows we cant attract the big names, so who do we bring in, iam not confident on that fact fergie said to press "iam lookin to bring in players in january to make up the numbers" god what kinda players will that be then, more fletchers???

Chrysalis 29-11-2005 04:08
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championship is getting very exciting this year, who will bet now sheff utd will fail automatic promotion?

sherer 29-11-2005 11:10
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saw Sheff Unit at the Palace game.. we ws robbed that day as there was no way of telling the ball had crossed the line but the linesman who was 45 yards away and looking through players said it was.. i had a view higher up in the stands and couldn't tel so how could he.. they didn't look that much better than us that day but it does look like they will walk the league..

fair play to them they've invested well in the squad and have a good team playing well..

be interesting to see what clubs have the resources to bring players in in Jan

yesman 29-11-2005 22:06
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That Was The Football Week That Was: Week beginning November 28th
1991 (14 years ago)
Quote:
Top of the Pile: Leeds United lead the First Division table with 39 from 18 games played followed by Manchester United on 38 and Manchester City on 31. This weekend Manchester United beat Crystal Palace 3-1 at Selhurst Park and Leeds defeat Everton 1-0. Cambridge United lead Division Two from Middlesbrough, while in Division Three, Brentford are top ahead of Birmingham City and West Bromwich Albion.
How things change eh ?

Link

nffc 29-11-2005 22:52
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Villa are shi*e.

yesman 29-11-2005 23:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nffc
Villa are shi*e.
/ wonders if Nugget will pass through here :disturbd:


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