Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35995559)

The reactions by Farage and his supporters make for more uncomfortable viewing than the filler moments in Eurovision. And that takes a lot! :D

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35995451)

Well as I said for the major parties their donations are declared routinely. The exception being Change UK and there are also questions about the Led by Donkeys' campaign. There were a lot of questions about the former when they started, they even incorporated themselves in such a way to obscure their donations at first.

The thing is I am perfectly fine with people demanding to know where their funding comes from. It's important to know. Why would I defend them just because they support Remain? I am happy with supporting Remain just as you are with supporting Leave. I don't feel compelling to suit up to defend the political parties or politicians themselves. I don't trust Change UK, the Liberals and certainly not Labour.

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35995455)

Oh here is that “Manifesto” term being used again, um, pray tell, why a Manifesto is so important, in today’s political climate, given none of two main parties stuck to theirs, meanwhile, Libdems, are also hypocrites, given they pledged not to increase tuition fees but then did, once they got a slice of power in 2010.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35995551)

I'm not at all uncomfortable and our Nige denies wrongdoing. However, if he does get criticised for this in the end, it does not change the argument for Brexit, does it?
As I said, the expenses issue is a diversion from where the future of our country lies.

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35995553)

Oh be under no illusion, no discomfort here at all, totally satisfied with which party I support, no amount of smearing will stop me. Brexit must happen, that’s what democracy decided. So I will support whichever party has the balls to stand up to the EU, which was seen on secret tape, boasting that it had turned us in to a colony.

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35995562)

You could say the same for remain voters?

On another note it makes me laugh how they are trying to block any Leave MP's wanting a shot at Mays job

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35995566)

Wrong on both points.
I see that British Steel is set to fall into administration. More Project Fear. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35995521)

How much money does Banks say he gave to Farage? Please post source.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35995430)

Of course it won’t - Nigel can do no wrong.

There is substance - Nigel denied it, then Arron Banks said "yes, I did".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48315552

Reporting things that actually happened and Nigel denied actually happened ≠ character assassination.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35995568)

From Oct 2015(before Brexit vote)

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35995569)

You appear to have missed a bit out from the source of your first quote, which was from the BBC last month.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48113303

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35995569)

From the previous page, there is a link to the BBC article in post #2344



It states

Hope this helps...

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You appear to have missed a bit out from the source of your first quote, which was from the BBC last month.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48113303

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35995552)

If key protagonists on any side of a debate are found to be acting against the law or the spirit of the law then it weakens them as spokespeople for their arguments.
In the case of Nigel Farage, he has such a simple message and powerful personality that I doubt his supporters will do much critical thinking if anything unlawful is exposed. In the case of Change UK, they have few supporters and minimal funding that I doubt they have had the opportunity to do anything unlawful.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35995564)

Odd isn't it, attempting to use whataboutery to excuse people's behaviour, it's also odd expecting people to defend that behaviour just because they happen to favour their side of the argument, a pox on all their lying, corrupt, dishonest political houses imo




The manifesto pledges were for if they gained power they didn't, they were the junior partners in a coalition who I think did exceptionally well to get 80% of that manifesto you so easily and readily dismiss into acts of parliament and to achieve that they had to compromise, perhaps if our politicians today had been ready to compromise we wouldn't be in the mess we find ourselves in, was all do avoidable as well



Our nige, seriously? Possibly the most ludicrous thing I've seen posted on here in a while

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That's the part you bring up from that tape, the boasting? I was much more interested in what concessions they were prepared to give us at the start that we didn't ask for, i had a lot of sympathy for Mrs May but it's gone now and I revert to my original stance that I warned you all about when she got the top job,.that she wasn't up to it and uses delegation as a way of shielding herself from criticism

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35995574)

The reason he is drawing so much attention from people such as your good self is that they are remainers who appear to be uncomfortable with his straight forward views and they have nothing to counter them that is in any way convincing. That is why they go for character assassination and yogurt throwing.

It's pretty pathetic, really.

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35995575)

The EU were not acting in good faith so the concession would have been hardly existent, because the EU, were even caught saying they cannot be seen to give UK a great deal on departure, because that would invoke further members to want to leave their con job union. To see the sneering and disdain on public show in that vid, totally validated my decision to vote leave and now, more than ever, do we now need to get out of this horrible union.

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35995578)

Nigel Farage vows to press charges against 'radicalised Remainer' who pelted him with a £5.25 MILKSHAKE during European election tour to Newcastle as politicians from BOTH sides slam 'violent and intimidating’ trend


Mr Farage tweeted afterwards: 'Sadly some remainers have become radicalised, to the extent that normal campaigning is becoming impossible.'

He later told reporters that the milkshake was 'yobbo flavoured' and he is understood to have made a statement to Northumbria Police.


He should press charges and hopefully a severe example will be set.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tion-tour.html

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35995579)

tbh hope he's lactose intolerant....

Don't condone it but l, unless it was a salted caramel milkshake, it's hardly 'radical'. It's not on the same scale as what happened to Jo Cox. The true nasty nutters come from the right.