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Pierre 28-10-2018 00:07
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35968314)
by that logic only 62000 of the 17 million, 0.36%, who voted to leave can be arsed to sign up to that.......ooooh, yeah
Correct me if i’m wrong, but leave won. So why would they be arsed to sign up to that petition?

OLD BOY 28-10-2018 00:39
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35968314)
by that logic only 62000 of the 17 million, 0.36%, who voted to leave can be arsed to sign up to that.......ooooh, yeah
Now I really believe I live in a different dimension!

We have voted to leave so please....let's just get out!

1andrew1 28-10-2018 00:54
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35968314)
by that logic only 62000 of the 17 million, 0.36%, who voted to leave can be arsed to sign up to that.......ooooh, yeah
Nailed it.

Mick 28-10-2018 08:06
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35968314)
by that logic only 62000 of the 17 million, 0.36%, who voted to leave can be arsed to sign up to that.......ooooh, yeah
Very misguided and rubbish logic Hugh. You’re better than this.

1andrew1 28-10-2018 08:18
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35968327)
Very misguided and rubbish logic Hugh. You’re better than this.
It's not Hugh's logic, he is merely applying Pierre's logic.

Mick 28-10-2018 08:29
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35968328)
It's not Hugh's logic, he is merely applying Pierre's logic.
No he is not.17.4 Million is the dominant figure and this is what leaving the EU is based on-end of.

This is now enough of the pathetic number comparing. We’ve had pages of it. The discussion needs to move on now.

Pierre 28-10-2018 08:33
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35968328)
It's not Hugh's logic, he is merely applying Pierre's logic.
No he isn’t.

If all the wronged embittered remainers were so passionate about the people’s vote, you may of expected a higher number to sign this petition, especially all the young people that we’re told would swing a referendum today if had one.

But only 6% of those that voted leave have been bothered? If take into account those have supposedly changed their mind and those that are now eligible to vote, it’s pretty piss poor and certainly nothing to be flag waving about.

It’s also not an argument to can apply to the counter petition, because leave already won, so there is no real driver for them to campaign against a second vote.

Mr K 28-10-2018 08:44
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35968314)
by that logic only 62000 of the 17 million, 0.36%, who voted to leave can be arsed to sign up to that.......ooooh, yeah
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35968332)
No he isn’t.

If all the wronged embittered remainers were so passionate about the people’s vote, you may of expected a higher number to sign this petition, especially all the young people that we’re told would swing a referendum today if had one.

But only 6% of those that voted leave have been bothered? If take into account those have supposedly changed their mind and those that are now eligible to vote, it’s pretty piss poor and certainly nothing to be flag waving about.

It’s also not an argument to can apply to the counter petition, because leave already won, so there is no real driver for them to campaign against a second vote.
A cobblers attempt to dig yourself out of a hole there !

You can't present one polls figures, then ignore another one saying the opposite because you don't like it. If you don't rate polls then don't mention them at all.

Mick 28-10-2018 08:58
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35968335)
A cobblers attempt to dig yourself out of a hole there !

You can't present one polls figures, then ignore another one saying the opposite because you don't like it. If you don't rate polls then don't mention them at all.
By your logic, you don’t rate Brexit so don’t mention it at all.

This is how silly and stupid this topic is getting and btw, I gave an instruction for the topic to move on from the discussion about figures.

Pierre 28-10-2018 09:15
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35968335)
A cobblers attempt to dig yourself out of a hole there !
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I thought it quite sophisticated.

This whole topic, Brexit I mean, is now just a circular argument.

Both side’s opinions are entrenched, there are no new revelations that are going to be presented that will change either sides views.

It’s all pretty pointless, until a final deal is agreed with the EU, or not. There isn’t much to talk about.

Sephiroth 28-10-2018 09:18
Re: Brexit
 
I try to stimulate serious debate!

ianch99 28-10-2018 10:03
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35968265)
Complacency mate, even the Government were guilty of it. They thought it would never happen.

I'm willing to stick my neck out and suggest most of those on protest marches are the ones who couldn't be arsed and now feel stupid ;)
Wrong as usual

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35968339)
I thought it quite sophisticated.

This whole topic, Brexit I mean, is now just a circular argument.

Both side’s opinions are entrenched, there are no new revelations that are going to be presented that will change either sides views.

It’s all pretty pointless, until a final deal is agreed with the EU, or not. There isn’t much to talk about.
Quite the opposite, the lies that were told by Leave are now starting to be revealed for what they were. As the debacle progresses, the revelations will continue.

denphone 28-10-2018 10:18
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35968340)
I try to stimulate serious debate!
Here are some facts around around Brexit and impact of EU membership from Ipsos MORI so there is plenty to debate there.

https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-...-eu-membership

Pierre 28-10-2018 10:22
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35968344)
Quite the opposite, the lies that were told by Leave are now starting to be revealed for what they were. As the debacle progresses, the revelations will continue.
Must be getting revealed to a very small audience then, as I haven’t read about any lies that have been told.

OLD BOY 28-10-2018 10:24
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35968344)
Quite the opposite, the lies that were told by Leave are now starting to be revealed for what they were. As the debacle progresses, the revelations will continue.
The Remain campaign was not exactly truthful, so I'm not sure what your point is.

Whatever was said during the referendum campaign, the vast majority of leavers knew exactly what they were voting for, and why. When there was another opportunity to vote, at the last General Election, it was pretty clear then that most people just wanted to get on with it.

If the reverse was the case, Vince Cable's Lib Dems would have gained a far bigger share of the vote.


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