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RichardCoulter 04-07-2014 17:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35711980)
Can't understand why people get so hung up about the EPG and channel loacations , I generally just enter the desired channel number or go into the HD section of the EPG usually a few presses of the channel up/down has me on the desired page , let's be honest if you have HD why use the SD version.

My thinking is that it would be easier to remember the channel number to start with if they were aligned and people swapped from one platform to another.

Also, it would make it easier when channels are marketing themselves.

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35711974)
Not at all, on the whole sky's channel numbering is a mess with +1's all over the place, living and Livingit are miles apart - I prefer VM numbering, if they had HD swap it would be even better, I just think they have got this one massively wrong.

Well, it does seem sensible to have Sky Sports 1 ending with a one etc to make things a little easier. If you know the sports channels start with a uniform number and/or know the EPG number of your favourite Sky Sports channel, it does make it quicker and easier to figure out the EPG position of other channels.

However, if Sky's EPG is a mess (and the fact that, unlike VM, Sky has to allocate EPG numbers in a fair, reasonable and non discriminatory manner) my suggestion may not be feasible.

I'll create a poll to see what people think, if it's a 'yes' verdict, I'll mention it to my main VM contact. (I don't like to talk shop too often as I only see him at social occasions these days).

The poll can be found here:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...d-sky-epg.html

ocav 04-07-2014 19:59

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35711990)
However, if Sky's EPG is a mess (and the fact that, unlike VM, Sky has to allocate EPG numbers in a fair, reasonable and non discriminatory manner) my suggestion may not be feasible.

Sky does not allocate EPG numbers. They are traded between broadcasters.

VirginMediaPhil 04-07-2014 20:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by Paradox295 (Post 35711829)
Good. Having Sky Living before Sky1 just made no sense.

That was a remnant of when Virgin Media used to own Living, they obviously put their own channels in front of Sky's. Then when Sky bought Virgin Media Television, it obviously didn't make sense anymore, but at least they've finally changed it.

Paradox295 04-07-2014 21:03

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Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35712056)
That was a remnant of when Virgin Media used to own Living, they obviously put their own channels in front of Sky's. Then when Sky bought Virgin Media Television, it obviously didn't make sense anymore, but at least they've finally changed it.

Indeed they did.

You would have thought once they sold the channels they would have moved Sky Living down and the Channel 4/Channel 5 channels up.

This makes sense, too, I guess.

RichardCoulter 04-07-2014 21:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35712044)
Sky does not allocate EPG numbers. They are traded between broadcasters.

It's a bit of both really, new HD slots are allocated by Sky. Old SD slots are traded between broadcasters and may end up staying where they are or reallocated a number by Sky if another genre section is more appropriate.

Maggy 04-07-2014 21:06

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35711980)
Can't understand why people get so hung up about the EPG and channel loacations , I generally just enter the desired channel number or go into the HD section of the EPG usually a few presses of the channel up/down has me on the desired page , let's be honest if you have HD why use the SD version.

Well we all have to have something to moan about..;) After all that was how this site got started way back when.

RichardCoulter 04-07-2014 21:31

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I remember the old sites.

I never use HD channels to record from, as this eats up space on my V+ box.

Sometimes I watch HD channels whilst watching live TV, as, even though I only have a SD set, I believe that this still shows a better picture because the source is of a better quality.

Media Boy UK 05-07-2014 11:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35711806)
Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: New Sky Sports HD Channels set to launch on July 15th.

Media Boy HQ can now reveal that the following new channel launches and new channel numbers should happen on July 15th on Virgin Media:

Sky Basic (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-109. Sky 1 - was 121
-110. Sky 1 HD - was 122
-111. Sky Living - was 109
-112. Sky Living HD - was 110
-121. Sky 2 - was 123
-122. Sky Living It - was 112
-123. Pick - was 180
-140. Sky Living It+1 - was 160
-180. Challenge +1 - was 140
-TBC. Sky Living +1 - was 111

Sky Movies (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-404. Sky Movies Greats - was 410
-405. Sky Movies Disney - was 407
-407. Sky Movies Act+Adv - was 405
-408. Sky Movies Comedy - was 404
-409. Sky Movies Crime - was 411
-410. Sky Movies Drama - was 408
-411. Sky Movies Scifi - was 409
-434. Sky Movies Greats HD - was 440
-435. Sky Movies Disney HD - was 437
-437. Sky Movies Act+Adv HD - was 435
-438. Sky Movies Comedy HD - was 434
-439. Sky Movies Crime HD - was 441
-440. Sky Movies Drama HD - was 438
-441. Sky Movies Scifi HD - was 439

Sky Sports (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-501. Sky Sports News - was 515
-502. Sky Sports 1 - was 511
-503. Sky Sports 2 - was 512
-504. Sky Sports 3 - was 513
-505. Sky Sports 4 - was 514
-506. Sky Sports 5 (Coming August 12th)
-507. Sky Sports F1 - was 516
-511. Sky Sports News HD (Launch date TBC)
-512. Sky Sports 1 HD - was 517
-513. Sky Sports 2 HD - was 518
-514. Sky Sports 3 HD
-515. Sky Sports 4 HD
-516. Sky Sports 5 HD (Coming August 12th)
-517. Sky Sports F1 HD

NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this post is still subject to change.

©copyright 2014 Media Boy 2006 - 2014. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

Just one small change to the info I gave you on Thursday.

-Sky Living +1 is changing to 140 from 111.
-Sky Living It +1 as it stands will stay at 160.

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35711836)
Very good news :) Will SkySports and movies be available on the ipad app from then too MediaBoy?

More news on Monday...;)

vincerooney 05-07-2014 13:59

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Ah! So we can finally watch sky sports on mobile soon?? Good times ahead!

dwarfofpoison 05-07-2014 16:10

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35712127)
Ah! So we can finally watch sky sports on mobile soon?? Good times ahead!

Even if SKY has allowed virgin to stream their channels on mobiles (TV Anyŵhere), I thought it is Virgin that only stream live TV over WI FI. So unless even more things are coming soon, it's a "not really").

ChrisB74 05-07-2014 18:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35711819)
This would be better -

Sky Sports (On the move):

New - Channel name - Old EPG Number
-501. Sky Sports 1 - was 511
-502. Sky Sports 2 - was 512
-503. Sky Sports 3 - was 513
-504. Sky Sports 4 - was 514
-505. Sky Sports 5 (Coming August 12th)
-506. Sky Sports F1 - was 516
-507. Sky Sports News - was 515
-511. Sky Sports 1 HD - was 517
-512. Sky Sports 2 HD - was 518
-513. Sky Sports 3 HD
-514. Sky Sports 4 HD
-515. Sky Sports 5 HD (Coming August 12th)
-516. Sky Sports F1 HD
-517. Sky Sports News HD (Launch date TBC)

Although forget about the order, we've got them all in HD :woot:

Absolutely agreed. Just beggars belief sometimes who thick some of these highly paid VM executives are. I mean how on Gods green earth could someone put a channel called SKY SPORTS 1 ... ONE ONE ONE and have it with EPG number ending in TWO!!! Arghh - VM will you please just get a grip and do something sensible for once ... Please!!!!

vincerooney 05-07-2014 18:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisB74 (Post 35712190)
Absolutely agreed. Just beggars belief sometimes who thick some of these highly paid VM executives are. I mean how on Gods green earth could someone put a channel called SKY SPORTS 1 ... ONE ONE ONE and have it with EPG number ending in TWO!!! Arghh - VM will you please just get a grip and do something sensible for once ... Please!!!!

BT sport 1 is on channel 547 tho?

ozsat 05-07-2014 19:08

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Well Sky Sports 5 on Sky is on 407

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisB74 (Post 35712190)
Absolutely agreed. Just beggars belief sometimes who thick some of these highly paid VM executives are. I mean how on Gods green earth could someone put a channel called SKY SPORTS 1 ... ONE ONE ONE and have it with EPG number ending in TWO!!! Arghh - VM will you please just get a grip and do something sensible for once ... Please!!!!


theone2k10 05-07-2014 19:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by dwarfofpoison (Post 35712153)
Even if SKY has allowed virgin to stream their channels on mobiles (TV Anyŵhere), I thought it is Virgin that only stream live TV over WI FI. So unless even more things are coming soon, it's a "not really").

Streaming over 3G/4G is in the pipeline and should be with us by the end of Autumn 2014.

---------- Post added at 20:21 ---------- Previous post was at 20:20 ----------

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35712195)
BT sport 1 is on channel 547 tho?

And itv1 is on 103 too :p:

andy_m 05-07-2014 19:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35712072)
I remember the old sites.

I never use HD channels to record from, as this eats up space on my V+ box.

Sometimes I watch HD channels whilst watching live TV, as, even though I only have a SD set, I believe that this still shows a better picture because the source is of a better quality.

So if this is possible, why, with the exception of those channels that have regional variations, why on earth do we continue to have an sd and an hd version of the same channel? If we only had hd versions, and these could still be watched by people with sd tv's, we wouldn't need to worry about hd swap. Would we?

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