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papa smurf 07-09-2021 17:11

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36092322)
Lord Frosty kicking the can down the road again.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1915026.html

Is it a can of sausages:)

mrmistoffelees 07-09-2021 17:11

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36092354)
Er - NI's not the enemy. How about not importing meat products from Eire?

Why do you insist on using the word 'enemy' ?

papa smurf 07-09-2021 17:12

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36092354)
Er - NI's not the enemy. How about not importing meat products from Eire?

There's no meat in their sausages.

Hugh 07-09-2021 19:24

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36092356)
Is it a can of sausages:)

could be wurst…

OLD BOY 07-09-2021 19:28

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36092357)
Why do you insist on using the word 'enemy' ?

The key is in the behaviour. They are hardly friendly towards us. They are angry, not least because they no longer have our financial contribution.

However, they brought it about themselves when they sent Cameron back with his tail between his legs after he put a pretty tame list of feeble demands to them. They overplayed their hand, and now they are paying the price.

If they haven’t learned their lesson they will do the same with Northern Ireland.

Hugh 07-09-2021 19:40

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
I regard Russia the "enemy" - they carried out poisonings in the U.K., use disinformation campaigns to stir up unrest and undermine democracy - the EU are just carrying out standard economic negotiation tactics.

Sephiroth 07-09-2021 20:01

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36092377)
I regard Russia the "enemy" - they carried out poisonings in the U.K., use disinformation campaigns to stir up unrest and undermine democracy - the EU are just carrying out standard economic negotiation tactics.

That's a given.. But "Irish Republican Army" comes to mind.

Hugh 07-09-2021 21:11

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36092378)
That's a given.. But "Irish Republican Army" comes to mind.

Which were nothing to do with the Irish Government... :confused:

After 1922, the IRA (and all it's barsteward offshoots) was outlawed by the Irish Government.

Sephiroth 07-09-2021 21:24

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36092396)
Which were nothing to do with the Irish Government... :confused:

After 1922, the IRA (and all it's barsteward offshoots) was outlawed by the Irish Government.

Someone was always going to say that.

But the Irish generally still carry (to varying degree) the chip on their shoulder of the days when the country was getting a raw deal from the British. Varadkar epitomises the boot being on the other foot.

I have no hesitation in calling him the Enemy. Same goes for that duplictous and perfidious Macron.


TheDaddy 07-09-2021 21:31

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36092374)
The key is in the behaviour. They are hardly friendly towards us. They are angry, not least because they no longer have our financial contribution.

However, they brought it about themselves when they sent Cameron back with his tail between his legs after he put a pretty tame list of feeble demands to them. They overplayed their hand, and now they are paying the price.

If they haven’t learned their lesson they will do the same with Northern Ireland.

What was wrong with Cameron's feeble deal?

Hugh 07-09-2021 21:55

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36092398)
Someone was always going to say that.

But the Irish generally still carry (to varying degree) the chip on their shoulder of the days when the country was getting a raw deal from the British. Varadkar epitomises the boot being on the other foot.

I have no hesitation in calling him the Enemy. Same goes for that duplictous and perfidious Macron.


The Irish actually had a Civil War after Independence, with the IRA fighting the Free State Army - the only people with a chip on their shoulder are the Old Guard who wanted a whole island Irish State, the rest don’t feel acrimoniously towards the Brits (speaking as someone from an Irish Catholic background, with lots of family in Ireland).

Sephiroth 07-09-2021 22:01

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36092403)
The Irish actually had a Civil War after Independence, with the IRA fighting the Free State Army - the only people with a chip on their shoulder are the Old Guard who wanted a whole island Irish State, the rest don’t feel acrimoniously towards the Brits (speaking as someone from an Irish Catholic background, with lots of family in Ireland).

Well, Varadkar will do as the enemy, then.

1andrew1 07-09-2021 22:38

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36092356)
Is it a can of sausages:)

It's a can of worms. ;)

OLD BOY 08-09-2021 07:48

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36092400)
What was wrong with Cameron's feeble deal?

To refresh your memory....

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/03/a-st...s-eu-deal.html

TheDaddy 08-09-2021 11:10

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36092417)

Yes seems my memory isn't that bad after all as I didn't remember his deal being feeble, he got all he asked for and in some areas more


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