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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

Aren’t there rules about current military personnel serving in the civilian government? He gets to return his title but Hugh’s right that he’s a civilian and politician.

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35921154)

You said he was a 4 star general, he was but isn't any longer. All semantics maybe; you should all kiss and make up ;)

He still is, read Pips post!

Tweet just in from Trump, he said he is going to release the long blocked classified files on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

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Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump 9 minutes ago

Subject to the receipt of further information, I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened.

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35921178)

Tweet just in from Trump, he said he is going to release the long blocked classified files on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

About time, it may put several conspiracy theories to rest.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35921180)

About time, it may put several conspiracy theories to rest.

or start some new ones ;)

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

Just wondering who'll be the first to blame Trump for JFK's death. ;)

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35921205)

Just wondering who'll be the first to blame Trump for JFK's death. ;)

the way this threads gone it will definitely get there

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35921208)

the way this threads gone it will definitely get there

Trump is America's Thatcher... :D

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35921214)

Trump is America's Thatcher... :D

and there's those who can't forgive him for knowing Nigel .

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35921218)

and there's those who can't forgive him for knowing Nigel .

Well to be fair Farage ranks on the level of Pol Pot for his crimes against the EU and plans for his future out of politics are being made by powerful people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXNhL4J_S00

:D

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

Love-ins of extremists aside it was said a while ago there is a Trump tweet for every occasion. On the subject of not questioning generals:

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/201...ilson-live.cnn

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35921205)

Just wondering who'll be the first to blame Trump for JFK's death. ;)

I was wondering how long it would take before you and Smurf started some pithy, pointless exchange on this topic following on from your trolling on the Catalonia issue. You didn't disappoint. ;)

No-one has any need to blame Trump for anything he hasn't done.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35921178)

Tweet just in from Trump, he said he is going to release the long blocked classified files on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

He isn't releasing anything. They were locked for a maximum of 25 years 25 years less 5 days ago - the time limit expires on the 26th.

He is trying to take credit for something signed into law by George H W Bush.

Still I suppose when your achievements are as sparse as his are you take anything.

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35921214)

Trump is America's Thatcher... :D

Glad that had the :D after it - huge insult to Thatcher if meant seriously.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35920986)

Because she is. I’ll take the word of a Veteran Soldier, General Kelly over MSM with axes to grind.

I have had about 4 military friends said they would be honoured at any leader who told them they died for what they signed up for, they would also wNt to hear full context of the conversation before they passed judgement on the pathetic congresswoman to see how much she was being political.

Right, because clearly the White House Chief of Staff has zero reasons to be biased.

He made some really good points. He also made some shockingly bad ones, and has soiled his reputation with this sordid affair by participating in a disingenuous arse-covering exercise.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/after-...-casualty-list

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My opinion of Donald Trump in a single, very NSFW, video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z00T8sYqG8k

I never thought I'd long for the politics of my formative years but this man getting into power, and being supported on forums like this one, does indeed make me long for the times of Thatcher and Kinnock.

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I should mention I loathe Mike Pence's policies, politics and viewpoint on pretty much everything however he does seem mentally stable and has at least a passing familiarity with reality.

Pence 2017!

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35921214)

Trump is America's Thatcher... :D

Poor sods! Well this means an imminent war to distract from domestic failings then .. :)

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35921214)

Trump is America's Thatcher... :D

He wishes! She understood Europe, understood free trade and understood climate change. Trump is still at the back of the class on these issues.
Please don't speak ill of the dead.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35921243)

He wishes! She understood Europe, understood free trade and understood climate change. Trump is still at the back of the class on these issues.
Please don't speak ill of the dead.

Maggie had a statue built for her but l doubt Donald will have one built for him as he is too busy trying to build that wall.;)

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35921065)

That does seem to be his Modus Operandi...

Anyway, apparently it's now inappropriate to question what politicians say.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-kelly-general

Kelly is not a 4 star General in the Marine Corp - he retired in January 2016, and is now a civilian in a political post.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35921124)

Sorry Hugh

Source

He can still be referred to as a 4 star General.

He can be referred to as a 4 star General, but he isn't a serving one in the Marine Corps - he is a civilian.

Just like ex-Presidents are referred to as Mr. President, but no one confuses them with the serving President; he may have the honorary title, but he doesn't have the authority or powers of a serving officer...

But back to my point - why is it "something highly inappropriate" to question the statements of a military (or ex-military) person, as posited by Sarah Huckabee Sanders, President Trump's White House Press Secretary?

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35921252)

But back to my point - why is it "something highly inappropriate" to question the statements of a military (or ex-military) person, as posited by Sarah Huckabee Sanders, President Trump's White House Press Secretary?

If I may, I would suggest this is nothing specific to an ex-military person. This administration is authoritarian, its hubris unprecedented. It shows utter disdain for any questioning of its actions or motives as Stephen Miller made abundantly clear a while ago. Its response to highlighting of its errors is to either try and discredit those remarking on them or to lie.

Presumably this feeds down from the narcissist in chief and his inability to accept his own manifest fallibility, let alone learn from it.

Being fair we all have flaws, just the rest of us don't have them subjected to such scrutiny.