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OLD BOY 03-09-2021 14:49
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36091973)
IMHO, threads where posters link to their sources result in more stimulating debates and fewer unnecessary and cantankerous arguments.
Do you have a link for that opinion? :D

Sephiroth 03-09-2021 14:56
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36091973)
IMHO, threads where posters link to their sources result in more stimulating debates and fewer unnecessary and cantankerous arguments.
Having inferred that the remark was slantwise directed at OB, where has he been cantankerous? Or were you only taking the narrow definition of "argumentative" as your meaning? Does OB really need to see his GP (which he can't)?

OB's insights into Brexit have been interesting and valuable - not to be sneered at as some here do.

1andrew1 03-09-2021 15:04
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36091982)
Do you have a link for that opinion? :D
IMHO on this occasion so can be challenged and ripped apart at will. :D

mrmistoffelees 03-09-2021 15:13
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36091983)
Having inferred that the remark was slantwise directed at OB, where has he been cantankerous? Or were you only taking the narrow definition of "argumentative" as your meaning? Does OB really need to see his GP (which he can't)?

OB's insights into Brexit have been interesting and valuable - not to be sneered at as some here do.
A percentage of his Brexit posts do you're right, However, a percentage of them are so hysterically funny or misguided that he almost comes across as a character from 'the late night mash'

1andrew1 03-09-2021 15:27
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36091983)
Having inferred that the remark was slantwise directed at OB, where has he been cantankerous? Or were you only taking the narrow definition of "argumentative" as your meaning? Does OB really need to see his GP (which he can't)?

OB's insights into Brexit have been interesting and valuable - not to be sneered at as some here do.
Whilst it's true that Old Boy has been rather forgetful of late on this thread (qv Boris's comments on the Brexit deal and the forgotten technological issues that MrMistoffess highlighted) and I'm sure he appreciates your neighbourly concern, I'm really not the right person to advise whether he sees his GP or not.

People's opinions tend to come up for for criticism a lot when they've been built largely upon incorrect information. No one's perfect and I've rightly been called out for this too but that's why his recent postings here have met with the reception they have. And some posts do have a Comical Ali feel to them, which I'm sure he would be the first to acknowledge. :D

Sephiroth 03-09-2021 16:54
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Turning to the topic, I see that the perfidious Varadkar (the Irish tanasty) is on manoeuvres as he visits NI.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-58422191

I've taken a highly selective quote! My bold highlights.

Quote:
Mr Varadkar said he "certainly wouldn't have any objection" to grace periods being extended, but it would be up to the UK and EU to agree to it.

"The difficulty is it doesn't deal with underlying difficulties - it just puts things off," he added.

He also said he and Taoiseach (Irish PM) Micheál Martin recognised unionists had "genuine and heartfelt concerns" about the Northern Ireland Protocol.

But he said the focus needed to be on finding practical solutions that ensured the Republic of Ireland's position in the EU single market is protected.
Why does the UK have to help protect RoI's position in the EU single market?


1andrew1 03-09-2021 17:13
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36091993)
Turning to the topic, I see that the perfidious Varadkar (the Irish tanasty) is on manoeuvres as he visits NI.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-58422191

I've taken a highly selective quote! My bold highlights.

Why does the UK have to help protect RoI's position in the EU single market?
The sentence in question is
Quote:
But he said the focus needed to be on finding practical solutions that ensured the Republic of Ireland's position in the EU single market is protected.
He's saying that solutions to the Brexit border problem in Ireland need to be practical and can't be at the expense of Ireland's position in the Single Market. So basically reiterating his country's red line.

mrmistoffelees 03-09-2021 17:17
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36091999)
The sentence in question is

He's saying that solutions to the Brexit border problem in Ireland need to be practical and can't be at the expense of Ireland's position in the Single Market. So basically reiterating his country's red line.

Surely that's his country's perfidious red line ?

papa smurf 03-09-2021 17:17
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36091999)
The sentence in question is

He's saying that solutions to the Brexit border problem in Ireland need to be practical and can't be at the expense of Ireland's position in the Single Market. So basically reiterating his country's red line.
Who is he again:shrug:

1andrew1 03-09-2021 17:18
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36092002)
Surely that's his country's perfidious red line ?
My bad. :D

TheDaddy 03-09-2021 17:22
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Just been told that there's over 70 000 excess pigs in the country due to the abattoirs and meat processing plants being so short of staffed.

Sephiroth 03-09-2021 17:24
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36091999)
The sentence in question is

He's saying that solutions to the Brexit border problem in Ireland need to be practical and can't be at the expense of Ireland's position in the Single Market. So basically reiterating his country's red line.
Understood. But we are still in the irresistible force/immovable object situation. It cannot be resolved unless one side bends over or the EU trusts the UK (which it won't). Never mind the blame for that (Boris) but that is the situation.

mrmistoffelees 03-09-2021 17:25
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36092005)
Just been told that there's over 70 000 excess pigs in the country due to the abattoirs and meat processing plants being so short of staffed.
Most of them will be in the Bigg Market on a Friday night i guess

1andrew1 03-09-2021 17:36
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36092006)
Understood. But we are still in the irresistible force/immovable object situation. It cannot be resolved unless one side bends over or the EU trusts the UK (which it won't). Never mind the blame for that (Boris) but that is the situation.
People were sold a pig-in-a-poke. I'd take it up with Redwood if I were you, maybe ask for a refund.

TheDaddy 03-09-2021 17:41
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36092007)
Most of them will be in the Bigg Market on a Friday night i guess
Poor blighters, they'll wish they were at the abattoirs come Saturday morning


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