Cable Forum - General ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news

Saturday Night is an awful slot because:

- Most of TV viewers are watching Strictly/X Factor.
- Broadcasters know this slot is badly watched so Sky will put it's 3rd/4th pick of the weekend in it (SS1 & 2, MNF), unless there is European commitments in the following mid-week.
- People are usually out/men let their wives have the remote.

I agree 12.45pm is bad slot, but only logistically, that I don't get to see many. They can be good games. Che 3 - 5 Ars for eg. And derbies get this slot a lot due to police instructions.

Gotta disagree, surely people can record strictly/X factor if they want to watch the football instead?!? personally don't see the point of either program, but there again I don't have kids and need to entertain them.
The people who don't want to watch the football will head off out yes, but even if they stayed in they would not watch the football anyway so it makes no difference to the football audience. Those who do want to watch it will surely watch it before going out for a few jars or out with the missus and/or watch the recording of Strictly/X-factor. When I was in the mood for football, I watched the odd match (with me mates) before heading out.
As for the missus having the control, there is often a balance struck between programmes. I.e. I would suffer through X-factor with the missus (after the match) as long as I can watch the footie, she can do what she wants when the footie is on etc.
I think Sky will put some decent matches on now due to better advertising revenue and it will give them the chance to keep footie fans watching SS1 for football first afterwards.
Also, how is the remote control argument different from the 12:45 match:confused:

bubblegun

27-06-2013 22:48

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Originally Posted by neilo (Post 35588787)

Sky sports collections going up by £3.25 or £3.75 (can't remember which!) from 1st Oct. Movies collection price staying the same. Sorry if this is old news but I just heard it.

Wow, that's a big increase! They must've got a bad deal in the renegotiation's or else they are getting something extra that they don't have currently.

Sky isn't going up by this much for it's sports customers....:erm:

coulsontom

28-06-2013 00:06

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35589396)

Gotta disagree, surely people can record strictly/X factor if they want to watch the football instead?!? personally don't see the point of either program, but there again I don't have kids and need to entertain them.
The people who don't want to watch the football will head off out yes, but even if they stayed in they would not watch the football anyway so it makes no difference to the football audience. Those who do want to watch it will surely watch it before going out for a few jars or out with the missus and/or watch the recording of Strictly/X-factor. When I was in the mood for football, I watched the odd match (with me mates) before heading out.
As for the missus having the control, there is often a balance struck between programmes. I.e. I would suffer through X-factor with the missus (after the match) as long as I can watch the footie, she can do what she wants when the footie is on etc.
I think Sky will put some decent matches on now due to better advertising revenue and it will give them the chance to keep footie fans watching SS1 for football first afterwards.
Also, how is the remote control argument different from the 12:45 match:confused:

Of course, they can but they don't

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& Sky will still put their best 2 games on Super Sunday. The Saturday game will always be 3rd choice, or 4th if there's a MNF game on. Maybe even 4th when BT have 1st pick, maybe 5th choice on those occasions.

denphone

28-06-2013 07:22

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35589255)

shocking tactics by BT and it will fail IMO

Nothing surprises me with BT as many yonks ago we had them and it was simply shocking.:td:

Superblade7

28-06-2013 09:27

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I think this season the problem will now be to get all the best games you are going to need both Sky Sports and BT Sports. This will cost in the region of £35-£40+ per month depending on which platform you are on, whether you want HD, etc (unless of course you get BT Sports free via BT).

I can see many people this year saying enough is enough and possibly not bothering with one or both depending on how people's budgets are stretched in these current difficult financial times. You may then hopefully see some offers / reductions in the near future (we can but hope!).

denphone

28-06-2013 09:35

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Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35589484)

Indeed the next couple of months for Sky , Virgin and BT are crucial and the decisions they make in this period will be crucial to their businesses in the next couple of years and the amount of subscribers they win or lose from those decisions.

harry_hitch

28-06-2013 10:02

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Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35589420)

Of course, they can but they don't

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& Sky will still put their best 2 games on Super Sunday. The Saturday game will always be 3rd choice, or 4th if there's a MNF game on. Maybe even 4th when BT have 1st pick, maybe 5th choice on those occasions.

LOL, good one. Again, those people choose to watch that program. Many others choose to watch the football.
Sky may well put the 2nd choice games on Saturday, but I was just highlighting what I think they will do. I don't think they will let BT have the best matches on Saturday, without having something strong to fall back on? I also, think Wetherspoons (and other major pub chains) will lobby Sky to show a good game to generate sales in their pubs from the Saturday night crowd. Still, its just a thought:)

Doug P

28-06-2013 11:51

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35589300)

Why the worst slot for football? I've always hated the midday games, but with ESPN I've loved getting home from Palace in time to watch a Premier League game. I fully expect to be back in the Football League next season and I'm gutted that this will mean Saturday midday kick offs for TV. I do think that Sky showing a live 530 pm match followed by game of the day makes for a really decent Saturday night line up, though.

Carragher is awful, agreed.

I agree completely that BT have a rotten slot for their games.

Parlyboy

28-06-2013 12:41

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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/...101517603.html

Looks like the gloves are off!!

mike_gain

28-06-2013 13:00

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Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35589484)

I can see many people this year saying enough is enough and possibly not bothering with one or both

This is exactly what I am doing for this season. I could afford both of them but I am refusing to shell out near enough £37 for Sky Sports and the presumed £15-£20 for BT on the basis that I think this is a ridiculous amount of money for just sports channels

Instead I'm going to put my money towards renewing my season ticket at my club and because my season ticket will be cheaper than the Sky/BT price for a season I'll spend the difference on my teams new top and a few afternoons in the pub watching some football when BT decide to stick my team on on a Friday/Monday night.

Television money and the power TV companies have gained, as a result of pumping stupid amounts of money in, is ruining football in the UK and I am no longer prepared to help fund this.

Rant over, back to a happy Friday afternoon :)

bamav

28-06-2013 13:21

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Excellent points! If more fans did that, clubs would be better off and Sky wouldn't have the same control over their destinies.

johnasimmons

28-06-2013 13:22

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Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35589572)

:clap: :clap:

smallclone

28-06-2013 13:36