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Government rules out any more help on energy bills.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65662895

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Tracker and Agile both use the same source pricing (dailies), but tracker is averaged out cost over day so you get one rate for all day, Agile is 30 min rates so it shifts twice an hour.

Agile also can go negative (you get paid to use) whilst Tracker cant.

Agile is electric only, whilst tracker is gas and/or electric combo.

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Was expecting it, all the signs were there its being wound down, the nerfing of EPG, the big sign is the latest COL payments announced actually also do include a payment in 2024 despite the likes of the BBC advertising them as all this year in headlines, that alone suggested they were to be the last one's.

Originally the help came as Labour were absolutely persistent with harassing in parliament during PMQs and the press were (unusually) pestering cabinet members about the poor needing help (very rare in UK politics), Boris even during a over seas diplomatic interview next to finish PM got embarrassed when a reported asked him why he was spending billions on Ukraine whilst at home people couldnt pay their bills. It eventually forced action.

However Labour since Boris resigned have shifted significantly, all pressure from them has stopped, the media have also gone back to just a few left wing papers talking about it, so all pressure is off the government again, there is Martin Lewis who does get TV time, but I expect they will fend him off.

Part of the problem is that the wider population didnt really think it was an issue until last winter, whilst the poorest were likely struggling from the very first part of the crisis and especially after the rise in April 2022. This has led to a mindset where the prices from July onwards are now ok providing the mainstream population are happy enough of which they seem to be.

This mindset is also apparent on the SC, where many people dont seem fussed about the way it has shot up.

Dailies are heading towards pre crisis region of pricing, but its predicted SVR will be end of decade at earliest. Hedging energy is going to continue to have a premium attached to it.

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But I don't :shocked: it's great leaving any thing I want , use the tumble dryer for everything, when I did the standing charge cuts it down. Haven't used anything from the grid for two years, gave my refunds from government to a guy I know in form of prepayment top ups :erm: but really is it to much to why I got it at all????

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50 000 more Octopus customers are being allowed on the tracker from 1st July. If you are with them with Smart meters get on the waitlist now if you can

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Hi Jay, my Octopus 2 year fix ends in September and I have been wondering what to do then. What's your opinion regarding the Tracker versus Agile Octopus.

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The Tracker is for Gas and Electric Agile just for electric. Tracker is daily figures so the price is decided the day before Agile updates every 30 minutes.

If you are prepared to monitor the prices and shift things like washing drying and so on off peak Agile I believe is better because you are rewarded for shifting high consumption off peak.

All depends on your consumption. If you use a lot of Gas maybe tracker would be better. It all depends on use. I am not sure but one would assume Gas prices in winter will be higher than in summer. You could get get stitched up with Gas on Tracker in the winter.

I guess I was as much help as a chocolate teapot hahah

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No, you have helped. :)

You have basically just summed up my own thoughts. I only use gas for hot water and our central heating. So in a way Agile would make more sense but, havind said that, I think that having to fit the way I want to do something around half hourly price swings would drive me crackers.

I think I will just see what's on offer when my fix ends and hope that by then there is a plan that I can live with. Either that or I could always go over to candles and calor gas.:D

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Me too.

Tracker Gas is currently 3.5p and EPG is 11p. Heating uses a lot of gas. Stock market Future prices for winter are only slightly higher. So, it should be ok.

Electricity: do not do washing/drying/dishwashing 7-10am, 4-8pm. Any other time is 50% cheaper than EPG

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Today, gas prices fell below 2p/kwh

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The morning is when we put on our devices as it's when our solar panels are working at their best. What we draw from the grid will depend on how sunny it is. The shower is our biggest electricity user, again mostly used in the mornings.


We will be using gas for some time. My pacemaker excludes induction hobs and gas is better anyway. Hard to toast a pepper over an induction hob and our gas hob works in power cuts so we can cook and heat some water.

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Have any of my fellow Octopi had an email from them today about reducing gas prices? My projected annual spend on gas is falling from £1,200 to £900, about which I am rather happy.

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Not with Octopus but e.on sent me something similar about their new prices from 1st July.

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Like wise, Shell has advised of Price reductions.

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Thanks for the "heads up".

After seeing your post, I logged on to our Shell account, and this was the first thing I saw/

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1687437885

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