Cable Forum - Brexit (Old)

.... into a brick wall and another round of Tory infighting no doubt. I'm beginning to think they are a bit biploar, first they want to kill her, now they love her :D

Sephiroth

25-10-2018 10:15

Re: Brexit

There will be a weasel worded fudge over the Irish border question.

As for the 95% - what's in it? Will we be disappointed? What would be in the 100%?

Mr K	25-10-2018 10:31

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35967887)

There will be a weasel worded fudge over the Irish border question.

As for the 95% - what's in it? Will we be disappointed? What would be in the 100%?

And what if it's 104% agreed, what would that mean ?
(that these percentages are load of doggy doo doos', meant to please the simpletons ? ;) )

According to the Dutch PM, its 0%...

Damien

25-10-2018 10:33

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35967887)

There will be a weasel worded fudge over the Irish border question.?

It doesn't matter what the wording is because there will be evidence or lack thereof in Ireland. The fact it actually needs a decision is why it's one of the bigger problems.

papa smurf

25-10-2018 10:34

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35967889)

And what if it's 104% agreed, what would that mean ?
(that these percentages are load of doggy doo doos', meant to please the simpletons ? ;) )

The 48%.

OLD BOY

25-10-2018 11:09

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35967889)

And what if it's 104% agreed, what would that mean ?
(that these percentages are load of doggy doo doos', meant to please the simpletons ? ;) )

According to the Dutch PM, its 0%...

Well, he's right in a way, because nothing is agreed until everything is agreed. We are already re-visiting the backstop, which was given the nod months ago!

Still, we are nearly there now, and a solution that both sides can accept on the NI border will be agreed. In the end!

On your first point (the 104%), did you attend the Diane Abbott School of Arithmetic, perchance? Just askin'...

1andrew1

25-10-2018 11:45

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35967892)

The 48%.

Which 48%?

OLD BOY

25-10-2018 11:51

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35967904)

Which 48%?

The losers, of course.:D

ianch99

25-10-2018 12:16

Re: Brexit

As predicted by Project Fear:

Russia blocks UK's post-Brexit tariff proposal at WTO

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The UK’s proposal to split its import quotas from those of the EU after Brexit has drawn an official objection from Russia at the World Trade Organization, MLex has learned.

An objection from a single trading partner means that the WTO can’t certify the proposal until the problem is resolved. It might also force the UK to undergo the full procedure for changing its rates, rather than the simplified “rectification” procedure it has so far pursued.

The single objection from Russia is enough for the WTO not to certify the schedules until all doubts are resolved. It’s also possible that more countries have sent similar notices to the UK mission —19 countries have raised concerns informally about the schedules. The exact number of formal notices is unknown, because the procedure isn't open to the public.

And if the UK fails to reach an agreement before it leaves the EU, it will have to operate on “uncertified schedules”, opening it up to more trade disputes.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35967906)

The losers, of course.:D

I think playtime is over children, back to the classroom :)

OLD BOY

25-10-2018 18:13

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35967912)

I think playtime is over children, back to the classroom :)

I was factually correct. No mucking around. :D

Hugh	25-10-2018 18:28

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35967885)

Rather different from what was portrayed would happen in all the speculation.

We all need to calm down. There will be a deal before the end of the year with a transition period, and then we can move on to forging a new trade agreement with the EU and other countries.

I suspect then the remainers will be saying we will never get a trade deal and all the nonsense will start again. And again, they will be wrong.

Time to start being positive. 95% there with the withdrawal agreement, just one small leap....

Bruce Springsteen will be playing live in my home soon, 95% of the arrangements made, just need him to agree and we will be there.

Time to start being positive, just one small final leap and we’re there...

OLD BOY

25-10-2018 19:13

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35967962)

Except that with the withdrawal agreement, there is no longer a difference with the negotiators on that 95%.

Whereas with the Bruce thing, he doesn't know about your plans at all! :D

papa smurf

25-10-2018 19:30

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35967970)

Except that with the withdrawal agreement, there is no longer a difference with the negotiators on that 95%.

Whereas with the Bruce thing, he doesn't know about your plans at all! :D

I know how that feels ;)

ianch99

25-10-2018 20:21

Re: Brexit

This is interesting:

Westminster Lens: Brexit Statutory Instruments Dashboard

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How many Brexit Statutory Instruments does the government plan to lay before Parliament?

Government ministers have regularly said that they expect to lay between 800 and 1,000 Statutory Instruments (SIs) to prepare the statute book for exit day. In recent statements ministers have indicated that the final figure will probably be closer to 800 than 1,000.

How many Brexit SIs has the government laid before Parliament so far?

80 Brexit-related SIs have been laid since the EU (Withdrawal) Act received Royal Assent on 26 June 2018. Of these:
57 have been laid using powers in the EU (Withdrawal) Act 2018 only;
12 have been laid using powers in other Acts of Parliament;
11 have been laid using a combination of powers in the EU (Withdrawal) Act 2018 and in other Acts of Parliament.

I am not sure what happens if this is not completed before March?

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35967956)

I was factually correct. No mucking around. :D

That may be but it was just another windup attempt ...

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35967962)

To quote Douglas Adams:

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It's not the fall that kills you; it's the sudden stop at the end

Hugh	25-10-2018 21:49

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35967978)

This is interesting:

Westminster Lens: Brexit Statutory Instruments Dashboard

I am not sure what happens if this is not completed before March?

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That may be but it was just another windup attempt ...

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To quote Douglas Adams:

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It's not the fall that kills you; it's the sudden stop at the end

Agreed - I don’t have a fear of falling; I have a fear of what happens at the fall’s end...

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35967970)

Except that with the withdrawal agreement, there is no longer a difference with the negotiators on that 95%.

Whereas with the Bruce thing, he doesn't know about your plans at all! :D

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...box=1540421178

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The European Parliament’s Brexit coordinator has rejected Theresa May’s suggestion that a deal is “95 per cent done”, as Brussels warned it will not be bounced into an agreement.

Guy Verhofstadt said the withdrawal agreement needed to prevent no deal was “0 per cent done” as far as MEPs were concerned, because of the lack of a solution to the Irish border issue.

“Progress on the Brexit negotiations can be 90 per cent, 95 per cent or even 99 per cent,” Mr Verhofstadt said.

“But as long as there is no solution for the Irish border, as long as the Good Friday agreement is not fully secured, for us in our parliament progress is 0 per cent.”

The European Parliament has a veto on the final Brexit deal and has said it would kill any agreement that does not prevent a hard border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.

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