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Damien 08-12-2014 15:53
Re: Football Season 2014/15
 
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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35745651)
Never been one to throw criticism at Arsene Wenger but the ending is surely in sight.
People have said that before. Wait for a couple of positive results and it will calm down again. Unless it really goes bad from here.

thenry 08-12-2014 15:55
Re: Football Season 2014/15
 
I wouldn't hold my breath. Arsene Wenger as Arsenal manager is done.

denphone 08-12-2014 15:56
Re: Football Season 2014/15
 
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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35745651)
Never been one to throw criticism at Arsene Wenger but the ending is surely in sight.
The thing is football has moved on while Arsene Wenger has stood still.

Damien 08-12-2014 16:14
Re: Football Season 2014/15
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35745659)
I wouldn't hold my breath. Arsene Wenger as Arsenal manager is done.
No it isn't. He has just been given a new contract. He has finished top four every season and won the FA Cup last year. If we pull enough results together then this 'crisis' will disappear just like the others ones did.

Everyone reacts to the immediate. Every week someone is in a crisis. The truth is if Arsenal qualify for the Champions League again then Wenger's position is secure.

He might go but things will have to get worse yet.

thenry 08-12-2014 16:21
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His position wont be secure in the eyes of thee ever growing fanbase that are no longer willing to support him. Year in, year out his bullcrap comes back to bite him. Every.Single.Year.

The FA Cup was won in bullcrap fashion.

Damien 08-12-2014 16:33
Re: Football Season 2014/15
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35745666)
His position wont be secure in the eyes of thee ever growing fanbase that are no longer willing to support him. Year in, year out his bullcrap comes back to bite him. Every.Single.Year.
But the fans still turn up, they'll be placated by wins and as long as we make the Champions League the board are obviously content. They make the decision.

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35745666)
The FA Cup was won in bullcrap fashion.
Arsenal won the FA Cup. I don't think the fact we didn't win in the way you wanted, whatever that is, changes that.

Shadow Demon UK 08-12-2014 16:44
Re: Football Season 2014/15
 
Talking about the FA cup, the 3rd round draw is this evening, 7pm BBC2.

I hope we get Leeds, I miss the games against them :)

thenry 08-12-2014 16:54
Re: Football Season 2014/15
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35745671)
But the fans still turn up, they'll be placated by wins and as long as we make the Champions League the board are obviously content. They make the decision.
Ask yourself how much do the board want to take from the fans? Money, emotional/mental stability, it has even got physical between the fans. Its a pee take. They are draining the fanbase and its totally wrong. Arsenal fans gave nothing but support and positivity to breed success when the stadium was being built and thereafter repaying. Its toxic in the stands because the fans are waiting for a return for the loyalty they have shown. How can the club continue to ask the fans to drain themselves. Its disgusting.

I was saying Wenger is riding out his luck. Its the board now.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35745671)
Arsenal won the FA Cup. I don't think the fact we didn't win in the way you wanted, whatever that is, changes that.
No you're right it doesn't change schoolboy Wengerball entertainment.

Damien 08-12-2014 17:13
Re: Football Season 2014/15
 
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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35745673)
Talking about the FA cup, the 3rd round draw is this evening, 7pm BBC2.

I hope we get Leeds, I miss the games against them :)
I like drawing Leeds. Arsenal had a great game against them away a few years ago.

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35745677)
Ask yourself how much do the board want to take from the fans? Money, emotional/mental stability, it has even got physical between the fans. Its a pee take. They are draining the fanbase and its totally wrong. Arsenal fans gave nothing but support and positivity to breed success when the stadium was being built and thereafter repaying. Its toxic in the stands because the fans are waiting for a return for the loyalty they have shown. How can the club continue to ask the fans to drain themselves. Its disgusting.

I was saying Wenger is riding out his luck. Its the board now.
And they don't care because the fans aren't using the only power they have over them - to withhold their money. Other than getting people in the stadium and buying shirts football clubs don't care about the fans. It's their club.


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No you're right it doesn't change schoolboy Wengerball entertainment.
Well you were happy to celebrate it at the time.

thenry 08-12-2014 17:21
Re: Football Season 2014/15
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35745681)
And they don't care because the fans aren't using the only power they have over them - to withhold their money. Other than getting people in the stadium and buying shirts football clubs don't care about the fans. It's their club.
There is no real fan power other than just don't turn up, empty stadium. Ticket sales will always be there. Has the waiting list for season tickets got any smaller?

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35745681)
Well you were happy to celebrate it at the time.
I'm happy the club won it. It's an awesome trophy. I just didn't like the fashion in which it was won. Arsenal are better than that.

denphone 08-12-2014 17:26
Re: Football Season 2014/15
 
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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35745673)
Talking about the FA cup, the 3rd round draw is this evening, 7pm BBC2.

I hope we get Leeds, I miss the games against them :)
Yes its quite sad seeing the demise of a once mighty club.

iadom 08-12-2014 17:52
Re: Football Season 2014/15
 
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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35745673)

I hope we get Leeds, I miss the games against them :)
Didn't they knock United out the last time they met? :rolleyes:

denphone 08-12-2014 17:59
Re: Football Season 2014/15
 
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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35745696)
Didn't they knock United out the last time they met? :rolleyes:
:tu:

Shadow Demon UK 08-12-2014 18:23
Re: Football Season 2014/15
 
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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35745696)
Didn't they knock United out the last time they met? :rolleyes:

They did, but I still have good memories of going to matches against them. I always sat near the Leeds fans when I went, its a great rivalry and a shame we don't see it anymore.

iadom 08-12-2014 18:54
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Too much blatant hatred for my liking, far worse than United v Liverpool.:(


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