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howardmicks 31-10-2013 15:59
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35639193)
Well done - good find.
Wonder if that means no TiVo updates tonight with there being a channel launch :(

Media Boy UK 31-10-2013 16:04
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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35639211)
Wonder if that means no TiVo updates tonight with there being a channel launch :(
SP has posted today on the Netfix/TiVo thread that Netfix launches last night was just more tests.

I have been info that says Netfix will launch by November 6th but rumours say mid November.

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martin201002 31-10-2013 16:10
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35639207)
Especially with you watching Discovery Shed, or whatever the heck that is....:D:D:D
:LOL: its got wheeler dealers on it, I quite like that programme.

vincerooney 31-10-2013 18:31
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If the tivo launches are still just tests does this mean the software being released is BETA and by the time it rolls out completely there will be a new main versio of software??Doesnt make sense for tests to be done like this otherwise. new tivo software released down south two weeks ago. it works. no complaints. so then they still stagger out the launch as a test? if it works in an entire area of the Uk surely it'll work everywhere???

its not as if the software which works in east anglia is different to what was released in teeside last night? it worked in east anglia so why not release it everywhere at once.

muppetman11 31-10-2013 18:42
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35639304)
If the tivo launches are still just tests does this mean the software being released is BETA and by the time it rolls out completely there will be a new main versio of software??Doesnt make sense for tests to be done like this otherwise. new tivo software released down south two weeks ago. it works. no complaints. so then they still stagger out the launch as a test? if it works in an entire area of the Uk surely it'll work everywhere???

its not as if the software which works in east anglia is different to what was released in teeside last night? it worked in east anglia so why not release it everywhere at once.
You've obviously never been involved in beta testing have you ? How do you know that there haven't been any bugs/issues raised just because some on here say they have no issues doesn't mean there aren't any. Roll outs are always staggered with any software to see if anymore issues surface before releasing to all boxes.

vincerooney 31-10-2013 19:11
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35639311)
You've obviously never been involved in beta testing have you ? How do you know that there haven't been any bugs/issues raised just because some on here say they have no issues doesn't mean there aren't any. Roll outs are always staggered with any software to see if anymore issues surface before releasing to all boxes.
I have with many versions of Microsofts operating system. It was released as a beta. Never did they release betas in staggered geographical phases. I've known different versions of betas being released after bugs have been detected. Never the same version of software being released over several weeks.

They should have released in one location. Let them test over 6 weeks. Release to everyone once it's been tested in that area.

muppetman11 31-10-2013 19:23
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35639321)
I have with many versions of Microsofts operating system. It was released as a beta. Never did they release betas in staggered geographical phases. I've known different versions of betas being released after bugs have been detected. Never the same version of software being released over several weeks.

They should have released in one location. Let them test over 6 weeks. Release to everyone once it's been tested in that area.
Sky do the exact same , I've had software at beta its then been released to the general public boxes however its always staggered to see if any further issues surface and keep an eye on the general feedback. Its usually spread over 4-8 weeks sometimes more.

denphone 31-10-2013 19:46
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l have to say Vince that l agree with MM on this one as unforeseen problems can occur at any time and its better to sort them out before rollouts go nationwide.

OLD BOY 31-10-2013 20:19
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35639321)
I have with many versions of Microsofts operating system. It was released as a beta. Never did they release betas in staggered geographical phases. I've known different versions of betas being released after bugs have been detected. Never the same version of software being released over several weeks.

They should have released in one location. Let them test over 6 weeks. Release to everyone once it's been tested in that area.
Blimey Vince, you're going at it today! Did you have red meat in your sandwich at lunch time? ;)

spiderplant 31-10-2013 21:27
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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35639211)
Wonder if that means no TiVo updates tonight with there being a channel launch :(
There wouldn't have been an update tonight anyway. Fridays aren't a good day to do updates - we don't want customers left without TV over the weekend if it all goes horribly wrong.

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35639321)
Never the same version of software being released over several weeks.
What makes you think everyone has had the same version? ;)

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35639321)
They should have released in one location.
The VM network was built by many different companies who all used their own standards. So the technology varies between the regions. Testing in only one region wouldn't guarantee it would work elsewhere.

Chad 31-10-2013 21:37
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35639410)
There wouldn't have been an update tonight anyway. Friday's aren't a good day to do updates - we don't want customers left without TV over the weekend if it all goes horribly wrong.


What makes you think everyone has had the same version? ;)


The VM network was built by many different companies who all used their own standards. So the technology varies between the regions. Testing in only one region wouldn't guarantee it would work elsewhere.
Thanks for the insightful info. Helps to understand the bigger picture behind the scenes.

Parlyboy 31-10-2013 21:37
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Stress testing anyone? Staged, unannounced test areas, with increasing controlled usage is a very sensible approach. Avoids catastrophic network overload......guess what I do for a living! ;-)

Virgin don't announce a launch, that way they can't be slagged for missing a date or poor performance. They haven't anything to be judged against.

That being said.....GIMME NETFLIX!!!

;-)

Chad 31-10-2013 21:42
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Originally Posted by Parlyboy (Post 35639414)
Stress testing anyone? Staged, unannounced test areas, with increasing controlled usage is a very sensible approach. Avoids catastrophic network overload......guess what I do for a living! ;-)

Virgin don't announce a launch, that way they can't be slagged for missing a date or poor performance. They haven't anything to be judged against.

That being said.....GIMME NETFLIX!!!

;-)
Great point.

vincerooney 31-10-2013 21:58
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35639410)
There wouldn't have been an update tonight anyway. Friday's aren't a good day to do updates - we don't want customers left without TV over the weekend if it all goes horribly wrong.


What makes you think everyone has had the same version? ;)


The VM network was built by many different companies who all used their own standards. So the technology varies between the regions. Testing in only one region wouldn't guarantee it would work elsewhere.
I agree with all this

But as a company which now owns the entire network surely they shouldn't do this in future and should understand their network?

BenMcr 31-10-2013 22:00
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35639420)
But as a company which now owns the entire network surely they shouldn't do this in future and should understand their network?
They do understand their network, which is why it's tested in different regions - because they know there are technical differences


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