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1andrew1 21-12-2022 22:50

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
I see one of Putin's useful idiots is trying to give him a helping hand. :td:
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Donald Trump Jr Zelensky is basically an ungrateful international welfare queen.
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/s...76927573512192

Chris 21-12-2022 23:04

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36142378)
I see one of Putin's useful idiots is trying to give him a helping hand. :td:

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/s...76927573512192

I wouldn’t worry, these days with Trump and his allies the accent is on the idiot rather than the useful. What with the mid-terms and the spectre of prosecution over the January sedition on Capitol Hill, Trump is damaged goods and tweets like this appeal only to what we now know is a minority on the lunatic fringe of the GOP.

There’s some major butt-hurt on show this evening in Moscow with Zelenskyy getting the hero’s welcome in Washington while Putin attends choreographed audiences with his generals to assure them everything’s going to plan. Unsurprising that Putin’s fanboys in the west are sharing the pain.

Chris 22-12-2022 07:15

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Another $2Bn for Ukraine, including Patriot missiles and training for Ukrainians to use them, with a further £45Bn in the pipeline.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64060437

All in all a successful field trip for the Ukrainian C-in-C.

pip08456 22-12-2022 12:50

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Zelensky given a warm welcome by congress and delivers a powerful speech.

Full sppech here.(about 25 min)

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live...s/?id=95626111

Ramrod 22-12-2022 13:50

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Lest we forget about the true situation in Ukraine before the invasion: https://rumble.com/v20895u-zelensky-...president.html

Hugh 22-12-2022 14:19

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 36142406)
Lest we forget about the true situation in Ukraine before the invasion: https://rumble.com/v20895u-zelensky-...president.html

Not sure what you mean by "the true situation in Ukraine before the invasion"?

This is a comedy sketch when he was a comedian from the TV series "Servant Of The People" and it must be over six years old (as Obama was President), not when he was a politician.

Ramrod 22-12-2022 14:22

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36142410)
Not sure what you mean by "the true situation in Ukraine before the invasion"?

This is a comedy sketch when he was a comedian (and it must be over six years old, as Obama was President), not when he was a politician.

Indeed. It's likely that as a mere comedian (at that time) he was saying something pertinent about what was going in Ukraine.

Hugh 22-12-2022 14:30

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 36142413)
Indeed. It's likely that as a mere comedian (at that time) he was saying something pertinent about what was going in Ukraine.

Much like "Mrs Brown’s Boys" or "The Inbetweeners" were saying something pertinent about what was going on in the U.K.?

Ramrod 22-12-2022 15:48

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36142420)
Much like "Mrs Brown’s Boys" or "The Inbetweeners" were saying something pertinent about what was going on in the U.K.?

No, not like that. A little more serious. But I suspect that you know this.

1andrew1 22-12-2022 16:25

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 36142431)
No, not like that. A little more serious. But I suspect that you know this.

It's satire, not Panorama.

Something you get in democratic nations but not the kind of thing you would see in the likes of Russia.

Chris 22-12-2022 16:39

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 36142406)
Lest we forget about the true situation in Ukraine before the invasion: https://rumble.com/v20895u-zelensky-...president.html

I’m not sure how this is in any way relevant.

Ukraine is absolutely entitled to sovereign control of its territory under international law. Obviously you haven’t said otherwise, however I also strongly doubt that you’re unaware that attempts to undermine Ukraine’s legal and moral right to an independent existence are central to the Russian information operation against them. One has to wonder why anyone would knowingly circulate Russia’s lines-to-take given the true situation in Ukraine today - even one as innocuous as a comedian riffing off an earlier election result.

Perhaps you could clarify how you think your link is relevant to a discussion of Ukraine’s attempts to resist invasion (and credible evidence of war crimes, including genocide)?

Hugh 22-12-2022 17:12

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 36142431)
No, not like that. A little more serious. But I suspect that you know this.

Actually, I wasn’t sure if you were serious…

Nothing says "conspiracy theory" or "misinformation" more than using a clip from a seven year old comedy show and using a vague non-specific statement to intimate that it showed something dodgy…

TheDaddy 22-12-2022 19:08

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 36142431)
No, not like that. A little more serious. But I suspect that you know this.

I thought better of you than this tbh, given your families history as well :(

richard-john56 22-12-2022 19:17

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
What about these two dirt bags.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...a211cd7d5cb476

jfman 23-12-2022 00:04

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36142398)
Zelensky given a warm welcome by congress and delivers a powerful speech.

Full sppech here.(about 25 min)

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live...s/?id=95626111

Just as when Pinocchio was reunited with Geppetto.


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