Cable Forum - VOD Netflix/Streaming Services

I agree with the point you are making however it depends what timescale your expecting the apps to work for , we have a Samsung in the bedroom which is pretty old and the apps still work and it receives updates from time to time.

Does Demand 5 still work on it? Some older Samsung TV's have lost this service (but AFAIK it is hoped to return it when new code is written).

OLD BOY

26-11-2015 18:43

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35810123)

I think that they're probably useful when the TV is new, but from what I've researched, the apps eventually stop working well or at all as technology advances.

All else being equal, I would buy a TV with smart capabilities, but it wouldn't be a deciding factor.

I'm not sure that this is still the case, Richard. I bought my new Sony last July, and already it has updated the new ITV player ( the ITV Hub) and installed You View, for example. I've received a few updates since I bought the TV and I fully expect these to continue.

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35810127)

Exactly; and it's way cheaper to replace a streamer box when that happens than an expensive TV.

You can buy a large widescreen Smart TV for just a few hundred quid these days. Even in John Lewis!

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35810129)

That's what I thought, MM11.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35810130)

Does Demand 5 still work on it? Some older Samsung TV's have lost this service (but AFAIK it is hoped to return it when new code is written).

Yes, I do believe so, Richard but I have never watched this app ( not much on Demand 5 that I'm interested in, to be honest).

I'll check it tonight, but I would be most surprised if it wasn't there! I'll let you know when I try to access it later this evening.

passingbat

26-11-2015 19:22

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35810133)

You can buy a large widescreen Smart TV for just a few hundred quid these days. Even in John Lewis!

'just a few hundred quid' is still a significant amount, and way more than a streamer box.

And some people prefer to spend a little more to get something better, picture quality wise, than that afforded by the bottom end TVs, given that it is something you will be looking at a lot.

Then you have the issue that some TVs (not all), won't pass 5.1 audio from apps on the TV, even though it will give 5.1 from HD terrestrial channels.

Personally, I prefer to buy a good quality TV and make it last for a very long time. That coupled with cheapish streamer boxes gives a quality picture and an inexpensive solution if technology development renders apps unusable.

In reality, most decent quality TVs bought now will have apps by default, so it's a little academic. But if I was going for a budget TV, I'd make picture quality the priority over one for the same price that included apps.

Kabaal

26-11-2015 20:01

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35810142)

Personally, I prefer to buy a good quality TV and make it last for a very long time. That coupled with cheapish streamer boxes gives a quality picture and an inexpensive solution if technology development renders apps unusable.

In reality, most decent quality TVs bought now will have apps by default, so it's a little academic. But if I was going for a budget TV, I'd make picture quality the priority over one for the same price that included apps.

Which is why i count myself lucky to still have a <£1k plasma TV going strong. No smart about it just great picture that's still better than any current TV at a similar price even after these years.

RichardCoulter

26-11-2015 22:04

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Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35810151)

Which is why i count myself lucky to still have a <£1k plasma TV going strong. No smart about it just great picture that's still better than any current TV at a similar price even after these years.

Well, my research shows that plasma TV's have a better picture than LCD/LED models. The downside is that they are now difficult to source and use more electricity.

passingbat

26-11-2015 22:24

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35810178)

Well, my research shows that plasma TV's have a better picture than LCD/LED models. .

Five years ago, that would be true (though not by as much as plasma fans would have you believe ;):D). But these days, top quality LCD TV's are just as good. LCD quality has improved over the last five years. And it was very good five years ago.

Mad Max

26-11-2015 23:32

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35810188)

I have both, and the LCD beats the plasma hands down now, it is a newish TV, and I agree with PB, the PQ on modern day TV's is very good nowadays.

theone2k10

26-11-2015 23:56

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35810201)

I have both, and the LCD beats the plasma hands down now, it is a newish TV, and I agree with PB, the PQ on modern day TV's is very good nowadays.

Agree my friend has a plasma i have a new Samsung lcd/led tv and my friend always comments how much more vibrant and clearer the picture is on my tv compared to his.
As for price wise i may make a few of you envious here :p: i paid £107 for my Samsung smart tv 2014 model 40inch full hd led tv as it was a mis price by Amazon, was surprised they honored it tbh.

johnathome

27-11-2015 00:02

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All TV's are LED these days and have been for a couple of years, if you're buying an LCD it's old stock.

theone2k10

27-11-2015 00:45

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35810207)

All TV's are LED these days and have been for a couple of years, if you're buying an LCD it's old stock.

It's led just checked the box lol.

passingbat

27-11-2015 01:49

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35810207)

All TV's are LED these days and have been for a couple of years, if you're buying an LCD it's old stock.

The 'LED' part only refers to the method of backlighting. They are still LCD screens.

https://www.richersounds.com/information/led-tv

johnathome

27-11-2015 02:18

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35810217)

The 'LED' part only refers to the method of backlighting. They are still LCD screens.

https://www.richersounds.com/information/led-tv

Good link but i still think my statement stands :) If it's an LCD it uses fluorescent backlight, so it's still old tech.

They're still better than the colour 'Ecko' set i had back in the '80's :)

passingbat

27-11-2015 02:38

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35810218)

Good link but i still think my statement stands :) If it's an LCD it uses fluorescent backlight, so it's still old tech.

They're still better than the colour 'Ecko' set i had back in the '80's :)

But in an LED TV, the screen is still LCD. Therefore both terms are correct.

steveh

27-11-2015 08:39

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LCDs still have a slightly slower response time to change state compared to plasmas so there's greater motion blur. OLED TVs are solely LED and outperform both but it has taken a long time for the technology to get to the point of screens without a high failure rate of dead pixels and a suitable price point.

http://www.whathifi.com/news/oled-tv...u-need-to-know

OLD BOY

27-11-2015 10:46

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35810178)

Can't say I blame you for not being interested in Channel 5 content, it's all 'poverty porn' these days, they even had a programme on there called 'My dog is on benefits'!!! All I watch is The Wright Stuff for the paper reviews.

Well, my research shows that plasma TV's have a better picture than LCD/LED models. The downside is that they are now difficult to source and use more electricity.

Just checked, Richard, Demand 5 works perfectly well on my Smart Sony TV.

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