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timewarrior2001 21-10-2003 16:57
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Originally Posted by kronas
im so happy the BNP has lost 2 seats in the by-elections in lancashire and halifax yorkshire

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/3199144.stm
Ok I havent read through this entire thread nor do i plan to.

I dont see what the big deal is, even Labour is losing votes. The fact still remains that not all the voters for the BNP are racist, its a dangerous tag to put on someone. I wouldnt dare call say a Muslim in Britain (MIB Party) racist, even if they were preaching that they should be given priority over the British in every matter.
At the end of the day a vote for the BNP is more about showing displeasure to the Labour gov about its immigration policy. Yes I am getting a little sick and tired of these so called immigrants, I dont for one minute think all of them are undeserving of sanctuary in the UK, but I do think that a high percentage are not fit to live here, not legally entitled to live here and as a result shouldnt be here.
People often see the treatment these immigrants are getting, let me tell you a little story about an old folks home here in my town of Billingham, Teesside shall I?

An old folks home which is approx 1/2 a mile away from my house, I pass it every day. The old people were shipped out, moved to god knows where, probably anywhere that could accomodate them. These old people often had to sell their houses to pay for care in their choice of nursing home. This nursing home had not been re-fitted in the 27 years I have lived in billingham. Now theres no old folk in there, its getting double glazing, completely re-fitted (th ebuilding is just a shell atm). For what? can you guess yet? Yes these so badly done to immigrants are given preference for accomodation there. What I want to know is what happened to the old people, why were they turfed out of their home, why did they HAVE to move?

This is the reason parties like the BNP get votes, this is the reason there is the starting of a backlash against so called "do gooders". This is what makes me physically sick, not only does it disturb me, it appalls me, I think its disgusting and should be stopped. Fine let immigrants into the country but do not put their needs before the needs of the citizens already here, the citizens that have lived here for 60, 70 80 or even 90 years, the citizens that had to sacrifice a hell of a lot in the 1940's that have endured their own fair share of hardships in their lifetimes.

I'm going to quit this rant now, I just hope I have managed to let everyone know how utterly disgusted and appalled I am, this incident has left me numb, I have so much anger over it I dread to think what the racist element will do, I think thye will be more angry than me.

aliferste 21-10-2003 17:10
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Originally Posted by basa
"Vaults" in relation to public houses........it used to be room, as Defiant said, where the darts and pool were. It was usually located in one corner or at the back of the pub. It is not in any way connected to the Google searches 'vaults' in that it was not underground or had curved roof structures !!

The room was generally men only :shocked: very basic decor with no carpet, where the seasoned beer (no lager please !) drinkers congregated. The term is rarely used nowadays. Another term to describe similar rooms would be the 'tap room'.

How either of these terms came into being I cannot determine. I used to spend most of my formative drinking years in 'vaults', but that was forty years ago !!
Well, at least THAT is cleared up..........now about that abroad part........

Scotland is DIRECTLY North of England.....and we are in fact part of Britain :)

aliferste 21-10-2003 17:14
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Originally Posted by timewarrior2001
Ok I havent read through this entire thread nor do i plan to.

An old folks home which is approx 1/2 a mile away from my house, I pass it every day. The old people were shipped out, moved to god knows where, probably anywhere that could accomodate them. These old people often had to sell their houses to pay for care in their choice of nursing home. This nursing home had not been re-fitted in the 27 years I have lived in billingham. Now theres no old folk in there, its getting double glazing, completely re-fitted (th ebuilding is just a shell atm). For what? can you guess yet? Yes these so badly done to immigrants are given preference for accomodation there. What I want to know is what happened to the old people, why were they turfed out of their home, why did they HAVE to move?
Get me the name of the Nursing Home please.......or why dont you get involved if you are angry about it....go to your loal tenents group and ask them...you may be surprised by what you hear :)

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Originally Posted by timewarrior2001
...... this is the reason there is the starting of a backlash against so called "do gooders".
UM, I wish i knew who the people you are meaning when you say "do gooders"?
Who are you talking about?

aliferste 21-10-2003 17:16
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Not even the last one?
Or how about the fact that the Nigerian government is taking out newspaper ads to warn people about Nigerian fraudsters?
ok OK......lets stop going on about Nigerians..........that fact is ...in this country they do not commit the fraud against us!!


They prey on people from far away ..........people who are greedy and think they can make a fast buck out of someones else misfortune!!!!

downquark1 21-10-2003 22:30
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Is anyone watching the program about racist policemen on BBC1 now?

Chris 21-10-2003 22:43
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Originally Posted by downquark1
Is anyone watching the program about racist policemen on BBC1 now?
errr...no, I'm sitting in front of my computer replying to you .... ;)

downquark1 21-10-2003 22:54
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Originally Posted by towny
errr...no, I'm sitting in front of my computer replying to you .... ;)
Some people may have a tv in the computer room :rolleyes: or nearby.

The guy on now, bald, bad mouthed and chewing. They actually can't be bothered beeping all the f words but still do c***.

Ramrod 21-10-2003 23:27
Re: BNP loses seats
 
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Originally Posted by Ezenden
You failed:

"open your eyes to the possibility that black male Nigerians (for instance) are more likely to commit fraud."
And your copper conversation:
"I asked him if any ethnic group was more likely to be found commiting fraud here and he instantly replied: "Oh god yes! Nigerians, they're notorious for fraud Just ask any dss fraud investigator!"
erm....I didn't say that, the policeman did....


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Theres that victimisation mentality again. NOTHING. And i never said there was. Sheesh.
but if we both agree, what are we arguing about?



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Thats a pretty poor logic, especially seeing as the Nigerians under British rule werent the corrupt ones. Therefore, the Nigerians in your statement are not a constant. If the above simple, narrow logic is all it takes to prove something to you, then God help us all.
And its the British who instilled corruption in the culture of Nigeria, which is part and parcel of the current state of Nigeria. But thats a whole different debate entirely.
I never said that, basa did...



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You say as a group, white males are more likely to commit acts of peadophillia.
So going by your logic above, because the British dont advertise warnings to people about white, male, hetrosexual paedophiles then that proves white, male, hetrosexuals as a group arent more likely to commit acts of paedophillia.
No, you are mixing up two different points. A government issuing a warning about the conduct of some of it's people implies that there is a problem with the conduct of some of it's people. The fact that another government dosn't issue a warning does not imply that there isn't a problem, it just means that it isn't being highlited by that government.
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And the Nigerian government warn people about Nigerian fraudsters, because Nigerian fraud is a big problem and Nigerians, proportionately commit more fraud.
Thank you for finally admitting that!
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None of this proves that any ethnic group is more likely to commit fraud. Especially, as i've already said; there is no Nigerian ethnic group.
Ah, I think I see why you are getting hot under the collar. Do you think I am coming at this from a genetic point of view? :rofl:

Ramrod 21-10-2003 23:30
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Originally Posted by downquark1
Some people may have a tv in the computer room :rolleyes: or nearby.

.
I have my 'puter in the front room so I can watch tv, surf and talk to my wife as well:)

Ramrod 21-10-2003 23:32
Re: BNP loses seats
 
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Originally Posted by aliferste
ok OK......lets stop going on about Nigerians..........that fact is ...in this country they do not commit the fraud against us!!
err...they do you know. DSS, credit card...etc

Niles Crane 21-10-2003 23:34
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Ramrod, i'm bored, tired and depressed. This discussion is coming to an end.

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erm....I didn't say that, the policeman did....
You asked the question "if any ethnic group was more likely to be found commiting fraud".

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but if we both agree, what are we arguing about?
Nothing, which is why this is ending.

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never said that, basa did...
I know, i was speaking to basa.

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A government issuing a warning about the conduct of some of it's people implies that there is a problem with the conduct of some of it's people.
Obviously, as i've already said.

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Tank you for finally admitting that!
I've always admitted it and have never denied it.

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Do you think I am coming at this from a genetic point of view?
Considering your wording, is that not obvious - "if any ethnic group was more likely". Thats the point i made at the very beginning and have been talking about ever since.

Ramrod 21-10-2003 23:43
Re: BNP loses seats
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezenden
Ramrod, i'm bored, tired and depressed. This discussion is coming to an end.
lol, me too.:)


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You asked the question "if any ethnic group was more likely to be found commiting fraud".
If I phrased that Incorrectly please accept my apologies.




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I've always admitted it and have never denied it.
You have never admitted it until your last post!



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Considering your wording, is that not obvious - "if any ethnic group was more likely". Thats the point i made at the very beginning and have been talking about ever since.
:rofl: How the hell could you think that? My giddy aunt! Anyhoo....I am sorry about the misunderstanding. A very good lesson to be more exact in my phrasing.:)
Still.....it's been fun!

Defiant 24-10-2003 12:05
Re: BNP loses seats
 
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ASYLUM: 15,000 FAMILIES TO STAY IN UK

Up to 15,000 families who sought asylum in the UK more than three years ago will be allowed to stay in the UK indefinitely, Home Secretary David Blunkett has said.
More good news for the do gooders and more blood on the hands of the goverment when it kicks off

Ramrod 24-10-2003 12:52
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....but we don't know the full story Defiant. Do you have a link?

Steve H 24-10-2003 13:05
Re: BNP loses seats
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by timewarrior2001
Ok I havent read through this entire thread nor do i plan to.

I dont see what the big deal is, even Labour is losing votes. The fact still remains that not all the voters for the BNP are racist, its a dangerous tag to put on someone. I wouldnt dare call say a Muslim in Britain (MIB Party) racist, even if they were preaching that they should be given priority over the British in every matter.
At the end of the day a vote for the BNP is more about showing displeasure to the Labour gov about its immigration policy. Yes I am getting a little sick and tired of these so called immigrants, I dont for one minute think all of them are undeserving of sanctuary in the UK, but I do think that a high percentage are not fit to live here, not legally entitled to live here and as a result shouldnt be here.
People often see the treatment these immigrants are getting, let me tell you a little story about an old folks home here in my town of Billingham, Teesside shall I?

An old folks home which is approx 1/2 a mile away from my house, I pass it every day. The old people were shipped out, moved to god knows where, probably anywhere that could accomodate them. These old people often had to sell their houses to pay for care in their choice of nursing home. This nursing home had not been re-fitted in the 27 years I have lived in billingham. Now theres no old folk in there, its getting double glazing, completely re-fitted (th ebuilding is just a shell atm). For what? can you guess yet? Yes these so badly done to immigrants are given preference for accomodation there. What I want to know is what happened to the old people, why were they turfed out of their home, why did they HAVE to move?

This is the reason parties like the BNP get votes, this is the reason there is the starting of a backlash against so called "do gooders". This is what makes me physically sick, not only does it disturb me, it appalls me, I think its disgusting and should be stopped. Fine let immigrants into the country but do not put their needs before the needs of the citizens already here, the citizens that have lived here for 60, 70 80 or even 90 years, the citizens that had to sacrifice a hell of a lot in the 1940's that have endured their own fair share of hardships in their lifetimes.

I'm going to quit this rant now, I just hope I have managed to let everyone know how utterly disgusted and appalled I am, this incident has left me numb, I have so much anger over it I dread to think what the racist element will do, I think thye will be more angry than me.
Nice Post Timewarrior, Was on the same lines as what I wanted to post. Makes me feel pyshically sick that our elderley folk get shipped out, When they fought for this country in the World War, to allow these immigrants into the country..

Tell me, Who should come first? (Honestly please)


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