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Pierre 21-08-2024 22:05
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36181741)
I knew I could rely on Hugh.

However nothing in that article changes anything, whatsoever.

He says it, he says his reasoning for the joke. His original quote:

Quote:
“It’s the equivalent of the congressional Medal of Honor,” Trump said of the civilian Medal of Freedom. “But the civilian version, it’s actually much better because everyone that gets the Congressional Medal of Honor, they’re soldiers. They’re either in very bad shape because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets or they’re dead.”
And he clarifies

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“When I say better, I would rather, in a certain way, get it, because people,they get the congressional Medal of Honor, which I’ve given to many, are often horribly wounded or dead,” he said “They’re often dead. They get it posthumously.
That was his joke….he may backtrack a bit a now.

But the joke was …….you’re better off getting the presidential medal of honour as if you’re getting the military medal of honour, you’re most likely dead, or FUBAR.

Nothing you have posted changes the original context.

Stephen 22-08-2024 01:30
Re: US Election 2024
 
It wasn't said as a joke. That's his honest thoughts on it. He never said or claimed that it was meant as a 'joke'.

Not that he would know anything about military service or fighting for his country.

Pierre 23-08-2024 20:33
Re: US Election 2024
 
RFK, a sane democrat, has suspended his own campaign and endorsed Trump.

RFK Jr suspends campaign to 'throw support' behind Trump https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy5ekxlwzgo

The guy is a dyed in the wool democrat.

Mr K 23-08-2024 20:40
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36181877)
RFK, a sane democrat, has suspended his own campaign and endorsed Trump.

RFK Jr suspends campaign to 'throw support' behind Trump https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy5ekxlwzgo

The guy is a dyed in the wool democrat.
A dyed in the wool, 'I'm not going to win which corrupt politician will give me a job if I back them....'. The Dems might rightly have told him to FO. They can afford to as they are running away with this.

Dave42 23-08-2024 20:45
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36181877)
RFK, a sane democrat, has suspended his own campaign and endorsed Trump.

RFK Jr suspends campaign to 'throw support' behind Trump https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy5ekxlwzgo

The guy is a dyed in the wool democrat.
thats only one they are lots of Republicans endsoring Harris

Stephen 23-08-2024 20:49
Re: US Election 2024
 
Yeah there was a few republicans speaking at the DNC yesterday, some quite logical thinking and speaking from them too.they know Trump is bad news for the country.

Damien 23-08-2024 20:53
Re: US Election 2024
 
It's clear he was running as a spoiler and is now dropping out because he'll take more votes from Trump than Harris. Sounds like he was offered a job as well which he tried to get before with Trump.

Pierre 23-08-2024 21:24
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36181879)
thats only one they are lots of Republicans endsoring Harris
Yeah, this is pretty much like Stephen Kinnock or Hilary Benn, joining the Tory’s .

Damien 23-08-2024 22:01
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36181888)
Yeah, this is pretty much like Stephen Kinnock or Hilary Benn, joining the Tory’s .
lol no it isn't. He has never held an office as a Democrat.

It would be the equivalent of one of their children joining the Tories after failed attempts to become a Labour MP. Their family history makes it interesting but it's not a defection.

His name is what has an impact but he hasn't been a key figure within the party for decades and was running against them after failing to get anywhere in the primaries.

This has been coming ever since it became clear he was costing Trump more than Harris and his polling dropped below 5%. He even tried a few weeks ago to get a job from the Trump administration.

jfman 23-08-2024 22:21
Re: US Election 2024
 
Hopefully no RFK at least improves the polling data.

Damien 23-08-2024 22:21
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36181891)
Hopefully no RFK at least improves the polling data.
True. There were the same questions we have here about third parties. How much of them will go back to one of the big two on election day.

Pierre 23-08-2024 22:23
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36181890)
lol no it isn't. He has never held an office as a Democrat.

It would be the equivalent of one of their children joining the Tories after failed attempts to become a Labour MP. Their family history makes it interesting but it's not a defection.

His name is what has an impact but he hasn't been a key figure within the party for decades and was running against them after failing to get anywhere in the primaries.

This has been coming ever since it became clear he was costing Trump more than Harris and his polling dropped below 5%. He even tried a few weeks ago to get a job from the Trump administration.
The question is, no matter how small, who was voting for RFK?

Disaffected Dems or disaffected Reps? Probably not Reps,

jfman 23-08-2024 22:27
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36181892)
True. There were the same questions we have here about third parties. How much of them will go back to one of the big two on election day.
I also didn’t get the impression (and happy to be corrected) every poll to date offered a 3 way choice. A low single digit percentage with the margins of error quoted really risked massively over or underestimating his vote share.

I know in reality the election is a two way choice. But comparing polls with and without is like comparing apples and pears.

Damien 23-08-2024 22:31
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36181893)
The question is, no matter how small, who was voting for RFK?

Disaffected Dems or disaffected Reps? Probably not Reps,
When it was Biden then he was getting disaffected Democrats but those numbers tanked when Harris came in. His poll numbers dropped and he became a bigger liability to Trump. Hence he asked for a job from Trump and his running mate said the other day they might have to withdraw because they're now taking more from Trump than Harris.

We knew this was coming as soon as it became clear he was a negative rather than a positive for Trump.

https://x.com/OwenWntr/status/1825619067337847121

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This is backed up by other firms. In polls before Biden’s withdrawal, Trump had a 1.3pt advantage in questions that asked about multiple candidates vs head-to-head. With Harris, the effect is reversed: she has a 0.9-point greater margin when third-party candidates are included.
His dropping out is good for Trump because a few voters will go back to him but the endorsement at this point is pretty worthless as he had little Democratic support left and kind of burnt his goodwill amongst them long ago.

TheDaddy 23-08-2024 22:39
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36181877)
RFK, a sane democrat, has suspended his own campaign and endorsed Trump.

RFK Jr suspends campaign to 'throw support' behind Trump https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy5ekxlwzgo

The guy is a dyed in the wool democrat.
Oh yes preferring to eat a road kill bear cub over having the covid vaccine is the definition of sane and who said


Quote:
RFK is a democrat plant, a vote for junior is a wasted protest vote
it was tfg less than 4 months ago btw


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