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Pierre 24-05-2020 00:13

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36036500)
Good Grief, what a lot of excitement of nothing ....

F.me you can say that again.

A lot of people getting very excited over nothing.

Mr K 24-05-2020 00:19

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36036503)
F.me you can say that again.

A lot of people getting very excited over nothing.

Yet every newspaper is running with it, in the middle of a pandemic. Mind you, you thought Coronavirus was 'just a bit of flu' and a lot of fuss over nothing....

Pierre 24-05-2020 00:26

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 
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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36036502)
It's only boring because you can't read and quote properly. If you don't want to participate in a conversation then don't start one.

No you’re just boring, there are more interesting people on here to converse with

but just to shut You up. I’ll read it and respond.

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I stated -

"Self isolating doesn't mean not having contact with any other household, it means not having contact with anyone. Surely the best bet would be isolating as much as possible from the wife in the same house and hoping that the virus didn't hit him bad, not travelling 250 miles and potentially spreading it in a garage and to the other household. With the position he holds, I'm sure some emergency care could have been arranged if he did get the virus bad."

In reply to -

"They were still self-isolating, in that they didn't have contact with any other household. That is the underlying criteria."

You stated -

"That’s just plain wrong. We’ve been at this over two months now."

You stated the above but didn't quote the full post which explained the context of the self isolating issue.

To help you with the above. I stated -

"Surely the best bet would be isolating as much as possible from the wife in the same house"

Which answers the quote which you missed the important bit out and just put this.

"Self isolating doesn't mean not having contact with any other household, it means not having contact with anyone."

I then stated -

"Whats wrong about it?"

You stated -

"Self isolation within a family Unit is perfectly correct."

Which is what I stated originally if you had bothered to either read or quote correctly.

I stated -

"In the context it was written it was quite clear what was written."

Which I've explained above.

You then stated -

"What was written."

I could go on but I'm sure you understand anyway. You clearly knew you were in the wrong so just started acting funny for the sake of it.
Actually, no I just read it, several times, and had Just glazed over every time I got to the end.

In fact I’m going to read this to my kids At bedtime, nailed on for a peaceful night.

Paul 24-05-2020 00:27

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36036505)
Yet every newspaper is running with it, in the middle of a pandemic.

Of course they are, sensationalism is what newspapers do, esp as there is nothing but boredom about the "pandemic".

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36036505)
Mind you, you thought Coronavirus was 'just a bit of flu' and a lot of fuss over nothing....

Its an immense amount of fuss and paranoia, again mostly media fueled.

Mythica 24-05-2020 00:30

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36036506)
No you’re just boring, there are more interesting people on here to converse with

but just to shut You up. I’ll read it and respond.



Actually, no I just read it, several times, and had Just glazed over every time I got to the end.

In fact I’m going to read this to my kids At bedtime, nailed on for a peaceful night.

Well let's just make this even easier for your kids. Daddy made a fool of himself by not reading and posting a full quote. Daddy then tried to act clever to get around being wrong. The end.

If you're not willing to enter a civilised debate, then don't start one at all.

Pierre 24-05-2020 00:41

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36036505)
Yet every newspaper is running with it,

God the bless the British free press.

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Mind you, you thought Coronavirus was 'just a bit of flu' and a lot of fuss over nothing....
I didn’t say it was a “bit” of flu, I said was “a” flu.

But then early on you dismissed the deaths of the elderly as business as usual?

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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36036508)
Well let's just make this even easier for your kids. Daddy made a fool of himself by not reading and posting a full quote. Daddy then tried to act clever to get around being wrong. The end.

Nope daddy just couldn’t be arsed.

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If you're not willing to enter a civilised debate, then don't start one at all.
Look, I’ve read your response several times, and I’m still non the wiser.

1andrew1 24-05-2020 00:45

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36036501)
No, you don’t.

You ensure you have a network around you that are there to look after the child if you become incapacitated. You also ensure that there is a network around you that can deliver food and other essentials (as you cannot leave the house) soeven if you are ill you can still feed the child and wipe it’s backside.

And if the network to give you peace of mind is 250 miles away, so be it. I’d do it.

I'm sure you would. But I'm guessing you're not the policy adviser who helped form the rules that said you can't do this...although to avoid any confusion, they were amended two weeks after Cummings' trip to Durham.
And I'm sure someone of Cummings' standing and contacts would have no issues in warming up his local London support network, paid and unpaid, to come to his family's aid if required.

Pierre 24-05-2020 00:49

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36036511)
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I'm sure you would. But I'm guessing you're not the policy adviser who helped form the rules that said you can't do this

And you know this as fact? Because I would have thought the CMO and CSA were the guys running this show?

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And I'm sure someone of Cummings' standing and contacts would have no issues in warming up his local London support network, paid and unpaid, to come to his family's aid if required.
Well I’m really happy you’re “sure” About that.

GrimUpNorth 24-05-2020 00:58

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Looks like Dom wasn't the only person who went to Durham :D

Mythica 24-05-2020 00:59

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36036509)
God the bless the British free press.



I didn’t say it was a “bit” of flu, I said was “a” flu.

But then early on you dismissed the deaths of the elderly as business as usual?

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Nope daddy just couldn’t be arsed.



Look, I’ve read your response several times, and I’m still non the wiser.

If you couldn't be arsed then why start a conversation about it.

You're non the wiser about what? I stated what self isolation is and you told me I was wrong. I wasn't wrong, you just didn't read and quote the full quote properly.

What problem do you have with this?

"Self isolating doesn't mean not having contact with any other household, it means not having contact with anyone. Surely the best bet would be isolating as much as possible from the wife in the same house and hoping that the virus didn't hit him bad, not travelling 250 miles and potentially spreading it in a garage and to the other household. With the position he holds, I'm sure some emergency care could have been arranged if he did get the virus bad."

1andrew1 24-05-2020 01:05

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36036495)
No he doesn’t.

Just an advisor, and not medical or scientific, I wouldn’t count him as “essential”

Know her do you? Intimate with the Cummings friends are you?

I fail to see the relevance of whether or not Dominic Cummings is a key worker.

Pierre 24-05-2020 01:16

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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36036516)
If you couldn't be arsed then why start a conversation about it.

FFS
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"Self isolating doesn't mean not having contact with any other household, it means not having contact with anyone.
This is fundamentally incorrect.

If you are self isolating at home, and there are other family members, you will have contact with them, direct or indirect.

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Surely the best bet would be isolating as much as possible from the wife in the same house and hoping that the virus didn't hit him bad, not travelling 250 miles
Well he was in the house and car, what difference does it make, he was still only with her and the kid.

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and potentially spreading it in a garage
Did he stop?

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and to the other household.
He was in a separate house

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With the position he holds, I'm sure some emergency care could have been arranged if he did get the virus bad."
Irrelevant


Happy now.?

Sephiroth 24-05-2020 01:22

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36036511)
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I'm sure you would. But I'm guessing you're not the policy adviser who helped form the rules that said you can't do this...although to avoid any confusion, they were amended two weeks after Cummings' trip to Durham.
And I'm sure someone of Cummings' standing and contacts would have no issues in warming up his local London support network, paid and unpaid, to come to his family's aid if required.

Verging on the libellous and definitely vexatious.

Mythica 24-05-2020 01:24

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36036522)
FFS


This is fundamentally incorrect.

If you are self isolating at home, and there are other family members, you will have contact with them, direct or indirect.

[quite]Surely the best bet would be isolating as much as possible from the wife in the same house and hoping that the virus didn't hit him bad, not travelling 250 miles

Well he was in the house and car, what difference does it make, he was still only with her and the kid.

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and potentially spreading it in a garage [/quote
Did he stop?


He was in a separate house


Irrelevant


Happy now.?
No because you're not understanding. I've already told you that what I had written is correct in the full context of the post. You keep splitting it down for some reason unbeknown to anyone.

It would only be incorrect if I hadn't of included that he stay at home were is wife was. But I did include it.

What difference does it make? How is he fueling the car, what if he needed breakdown services or emergency services? Where did the child go? If you can't see why it was wrong then you've totally gone through the past 8 or so weeks not understanding what the simple message has been.

Pierre 24-05-2020 01:26

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36036520)
I fail to see the relevance of whether or not Dominic Cummings is a key worker.

F.me

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