Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 

I wonder if there's a version of Godwin's Law for foreign secretaries that prattle on for too long?

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 

If there isn't there should be.

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BREAKING: U.S President Donald Trump expels 60 Russian diplomats in a coordinated worldwide response to the Nerve Attack in Salisbury. France, Germany, Netherlands, Latvia, Poland and others have announced expulsions of Russian diplomats.

https://news.sky.com/story/live-trum...oning-11304952

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Trump has also ordered the closure of the Russian Consulate in Seattle.

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 

Good.

I don't Russia expected such a united response from the West. They assumed the US and Europe wouldn't want to get involved.

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The message being conveyed: ‘The World stands United with Great Britain.’

Canada to expel Russians, who they have identified as Russian Intelligence officials who have interfered in Canada elections.

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Latest from Kremlin: Spokesman from Kremlin says President Putin will make a Final Response to all the Russian expulsions currently happening around the World...

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 

Credit to May for the Diplomatic achievement as well as Trump and all for following though.

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 

Let me correct that for you Mick ;)

The message being conveyed: 'The worlds economies are in deep doo doo, we need a confrontation with a major power to get our industries back on track . . and reduce the population to manageable levels once again. War with Korea may take things a little too far, but a good old fashioned scrap with Russia will be ok.'

:D :D

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 

The Russians come out with a lot of bullshit.... Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman has just said:

"This is a provocative gesture"

and also remarks, "UK is trying to use Brexit to whip up support of solidarity with the EU."

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So far.... 100 Russian diplomats expelled from 18 countries across the world. The largest collective expulsion of Russian intelligence officers in history.

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 

Your grasp of geopolitics is "interesting"...

So, you think that the major western posers are more likely (in your mind) to have a war with the 3rd most (in armed forces terms, but 2nd in Nuclear weapons, including 1600 ICBMs) powerful country in the world, than a bankrupt starving country that has a handful of nukes?

As I said, "interesting" :erm:

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 

Oh I certainly have a different view than most Hugh :)

I ask myself which is most likely to hit the big red button . . Putin or Kim Sun Ying Tang Po (or whatever his name is) :D

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I agree, Theresa May has come a long way from a few months ago when the EU cold shouldered her very rudely.

I think we should build on this not only with more financial restrictions to hurt Russia, but also with a message that we would much prefer to be friends with Russia, and when they are ready to talk about being more responsible members of the world community, we will not only look at reversing these restrictions, but also build new business/trade arrangements for mutual benefit.

Russia really does need to learn that friendship will bring them better results than their hitherto hostile approach.

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Putin would be doing himself great favours by distancing himself from the minister of lies and fantasy: Vladislav Surkov. It would come as no surprise if he had significant input into the current debacle: Think Ukraine crisis, pro-russian "separatists" (special operations troops and mercenaries in other words), South Ossetia etc.

Much of what we see from outside Russia is a product of Putin's apparatus attempting to consolidate power in a very broken political system where in-fighting among various factions outside of the public eye threatens his grip on power. Surkov is one of the main people Putin listens to but unfortunately for him, this will end up being the start his undoing.

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Iceland announces diplomatic boycott of 2018 World Cup in Russia

https://sputniknews.com/worldcup-201...cott-worldcup/

Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury
 

If only Iceland had boycotted Euro 2016 ;)

I think the Ruskies may have miscalculated. It's good we still have friends in the EU despite everything. As for Trump, good on him for once, I'm sure trying to bury a certain porn stars revelations from the headlines are purely coincidental.

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Porton Down scientists are unable to verify the 'precise source of novichok'


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ce-of-novichok