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TheDaddy

06-01-2015 19:49

Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35750740)

Nevertheless it is possible and people do, do it .Immaterial anyway because it doesn't look like he is going abroad ,at least not yet

its not possible for him to go abroad, the ministry of justice confirmed that the other day and said that the conditions imposed on sex offenders in this country effectively rules out working abroad

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30662865

Osem	06-01-2015 22:40

Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35750761)

There are already many limitations on Evans' work prospects as prescribed in law ,he will be on the sex offenders register for life and as such will be subject to "Regulated Activity" which basically means he can't work at hospitals ,schools or anywhere there will be vulnerable people .He's sentenced to more than 4 yrs in prison so his conviction will never be spent so he must always by law declare his conviction ,it will be upto any employer if they hire him or not .What you seem to be in favour of is imposing extra limitations on him or any criminal for that matter on top of the legally prescribed restrictions already in place after they are released and that is a very slippery slope in my opinion.
I myself employ an ex drug dealer he was sentanced to 9 yrs served 4.5 and i have never regretted it ,without me he would most likely have re-offended or simply be sitting on the dole for the rest of his life either way costing the tax payer fortunes instead of being a net contributor

Great post! Mind you, that was before I read you'd employed a former drug dealer so I'm cancelling my order and going to make sure you never work again... ;)

Arthurgray50@blu

07-01-2015 12:49

Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football

Martyh, Well done matey. You deserve great credit for what you have done. Yes, people do need that chance.

Yes, Ched Evans was convicted of a serious crime. But when they come out its people such as you, that give people that chance. Good on you mate.

Gary L

07-01-2015 13:01

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Just pretend Ched Evans is David Cameron, Arthur.
it'll all make sense.

MalteseFalcon

07-01-2015 13:17

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I hope Oldham are made to rue this decision. Fools.

Mr Banana

07-01-2015 13:22

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35750858)

I agree its great what Martyh has done but a number of offenders do re offend Arthur

Between July 2010 and June 2011, around 630,000 offenders were cautioned, convicted (excluding immediate custodial sentences) or released from custody. Around 170,000 of these offenders committed a proven re-offence within a year. This gives a one year proven re-offending rate of 26.9 per cent, which represents a rise of 0.5 percentage points compared to the previous 12 months and a fall of 1.0 percentage points since 2000.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...e-offending--2

martyh

07-01-2015 19:32

Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football

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Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35750868)

Whilst that is true the reason why so many offenders re offend is partly because it is very hard for offenders to get that chance in the first place so many feel they have no other choice but to go back to crime .In reality ex offenders that really want to work and go straight tend to be extremely loyal and hard working because they Know that if they blow one chance they may never get another.
In evans' case i don't think he has a shortage of offers from clubs but he has to battle public opinion and the media who feel they have the right to control the rest of his life ,i don't think he will reoffend but problems ex offenders have in getting good jobs or any job means he should be allowed to take the offer and if that is a football club then so be it

denphone

08-01-2015 12:07

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Oldham drop bid to sign Ched Evans.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30727729

MalteseFalcon

08-01-2015 12:13

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Excellent. Shame Katie Hopkins is in the Big Brother house, she would be in meltdown today on Twitter.

TheDaddy

08-01-2015 13:20

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35751143)

Excellent. Shame Katie Hopkins is in the Big Brother house, she would be in meltdown today on Twitter.

Yes excellent that the threat of violence and rape against the families of staff have forced the club to back down

denphone

08-01-2015 14:22

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Ched Evans: Convicted rapist and footballer issues apology.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30727380

Gary L

08-01-2015 15:08

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35751167)

Yes excellent that the threat of violence and rape against the families of staff have forced the club to back down

Is that good or bad?

MalteseFalcon

08-01-2015 15:41

Re: Should Ched Evans be allowed back into football

I posted that before I had heard the news of directors and staff being threatened. That is taking it too far, especially telling someone they would rape their daughter if the deal went ahead.

Until threats of violence and/or rape were made, this was being protested in a mature way. I hope they can ID the troll and prosecute them.

Arthurgray50@blu

08-01-2015 15:58

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http://news.sky.com/story/1404284/ch...-after-threats

There are a load of **** bags out there, making threats towards the board, and family members.

I always thought that the football world, wanted to get rid of bullies, and this is what the club have done. Bowed to online bullies

When you think that thousands of people have vented there anger at the club. They done even get that at each game. Just goes to show that, there are people out there. Who cannot mind there own business.
Yes, Chad has now apologised for what happened - But what will all those **** bags do IF Chad wins his appeal.

I appreciate that the words of this comment might be hard. I am saying, exactly what Harry Redknappe has said. There are other players out there that have committed major crimes, and are back playing there football.

Does this mean that any job Chad goes for, there will be a vigilante group out there, to try and stop him working and earning a living.

The Guy has done his bird. Now he has to rehabilate

Julian

08-01-2015 16:39

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35751191)

Is that good or bad?

Bad, in the same way that the mob treatment of the young female involved in the case is bad.

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