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martyh 19-04-2014 10:33

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35690291)

Needed the recovery time, back to about the mental capacity of a root vegetable now.
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don't let us lower forms of life inconvenience you please :rolleyes:

Maggy 19-04-2014 10:37

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I agree 100%, unfortunately just as there are religious fundamentalists there are also those who take secularism a tad too far and want all reference to it banned from our schools which undermines secularism just as fundamentalism undermines moderate religion.

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I call those Fundamentalist Atheists. ;)

Ignitionnet 19-04-2014 10:42

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35690296)
don't let us lower forms of life inconvenience you please :rolleyes:

We are all nature's children and should be treated equally, even if humour is lost on us from time to time.

No inconvenience involved at all, hence why I didn't respond to either your public or private comments, to avoid such things.

On topic, I see the cries of Islamophobia have already begun.

What appears to have been happening is concerning, multicultural Britain at its finest and thank you mass immigration for ensuring it would go this way, as is the utter failure of authority to manage it, well played Labour's academy system promoted heavily by the Tories.

The fallout is the most concerning thing. This is the fire behind the smoke of the initial allegations and will fuel xenophobia and anti-immigration sentiment. The anti-immigration sentiment however does have a very good point. This is what happens when people come in faster than they can be integrated - they do their own thing and segregate themselves, in instances like this using taxpayers' money to do so.

Russ 19-04-2014 21:31

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35690291)
I would actually disagree here. Religion is a part of current life, not history, and crosses over into sociology and other things. It does require its own lessons as, regardless of opinion of it, it is a strong influence in the lives of billions and shapes aspects of how they live their lives.


I agree 100%, unfortunately just as there are religious fundamentalists there are also those who take secularism a tad too far and want all reference to it banned from our schools which undermines secularism just as fundamentalism undermines moderate religion.


Who are you...and what have you done with the real Carl??

Sirius 19-04-2014 21:36

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35690285)
saying that religion can be so evil is like saying guns murder people or knives stab people

People who mis use religion ,guns or knives can be evil

That is the first post you have made in this thread i can agree with.

Chris 20-04-2014 06:52

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35690270)
Have they put the school into special measures yet? Send in other teachers, suspend those running it etc?

It seems that 6 schools are about to go that way. The Telegraph's Deep Throat in the DfE has disclosed that six schools are going to be rated 'inadequate' by OFSTED and that the governors and senior staff of those schools will be replaced.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...-measures.html

rhyds 20-04-2014 07:00

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Religions are just Cults with tax breaks

Russ 20-04-2014 07:16

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Originally Posted by rhyds (Post 35690475)
Religions are just Cults with tax breaks

So are Google and Starbucks.

Ohhh you said 'cults'...sorry, should have worn my glasses.

broadbandking 21-04-2014 13:21

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Originally Posted by rhyds (Post 35690475)
Religions are just Cults with tax breaks

Made me chuckle

Qtx 21-04-2014 16:27

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35690281)
Religion 'can' be so evil.

It's not like the Crusades were the fault of religion or the Church of England has invested 10 million quid in an arms firm or evil payday lenders.

Chris 21-04-2014 16:43

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35691007)
It's not like the Crusades were the fault of religion or the Church of England has invested 10 million quid in an arms firm or evil payday lenders.

If you could point out the parts of the Bible that the Crusaders appealed to as they raped and pillaged their way across Europe and Asia Minor, that would help lift your comment from 'cliche' to 'credible' ...

On the other hand you could be more careful to draw a distinction between wars caused directly by religious belief (and don't get me wrong, there are plenty of examples) and wars where kings used religion as a pretext.

As for the C of E, they got themselves into a stupid situation but they're not the first to be caught out by the unexpected contents of an investment fund and they won't be the last.

TheDaddy 22-04-2014 06:13

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It's not like the Crusades were the fault of religion or the Church of England has invested 10 million quid in an arms firm or evil payday lenders.

Actually the crusades started as a land grab, the expansionist Seljuk Turks were threatening constantinople who appealed for help and before you say from fellow Christians, the orthodox byzantines were excommunicated from Rome, religion was used to whip the masses up without doubt and continued the conflict far longer than it should have but like most wars land, resources and ambition were just as much at the heart of it as religion and imo anyone who dismisses these additional factors simply to say "it was all about religion" clearly has an agenda or is a bit ignorant of what happened.

Russ 22-04-2014 06:25

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35691177)
anyone who dismisses these additional factors simply to say "it was all about religion" clearly has an agenda or is a bit ignorant of what happened.

:clap:

Qtx 22-04-2014 11:26

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35691177)
Actually the crusades started as a land grab, the expansionist Seljuk Turks were threatening constantinople who appealed for help and before you say from fellow Christians, the orthodox byzantines were excommunicated from Rome, religion was used to whip the masses up without doubt and continued the conflict far longer than it should have but like most wars land, resources and ambition were just as much at the heart of it as religion and imo anyone who dismisses these additional factors simply to say "it was all about religion" clearly has an agenda or is a bit ignorant of what happened.

Thanks for the history lesson. Religion is used for control and your description above shows just that. It's not much different from America and the UK invading Afghanistan and Iraq while blaming Muslims. Using such tactics to justify war is something that will continue to happen, until religion finally dies out.

It is only now we are seeing other religions attempting to interfere with schools and what can be worn in the place of work etc. I expect this will get worse.

Your comment about agenda is misplaced if you are replying to me. In fact that sentence of yours appears to have it's own agenda ;)

Russ 22-04-2014 11:27

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35691247)
Thanks for the history lesson. Religion is used for control and your description above shows just that. It's not much different from America and the UK invading Afghanistan and Iraq while blaming Muslims. Using such tactics to justify war is something that will continue to happen, until religion finally dies out.

And what about wars that are caused by oil, money, greed, land, politics?


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