Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by orangebird
You mean you found it easy to give up. Have a medal. That doesn't mean everyone does. And reading dome of your other post, you were barely more than a social smoker. I however have smoked 20 a day (possibly more on a particularly boozy night out), for the past 10 years and find the thought of giving up hard to deal with, let alone actually doing it.
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Yes I do mean that I found it hard to give up, as I am sure my other post made clear:
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Originally Posted by clarie
Yeah, I do mean how easy I found it to give up. However the fact that people do give it up every day shows that it is entirely possible.
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Originally Posted by Bill C
Let me tell you now that you never stop giving up. I found it extremely hard and still do but i made the CHOICE to stop not because another ADULT said i should
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I know that you never stop giving up. I think we need to be a little clear on the subjectivity of the word 'easy'. In my mind giving up is easy, because nothing else in your life is taken away than the cigarette itself, or the relief given to you by the cigarette. But that itself passes with time anyway.
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Originally Posted by Bill C
Don't go mouthing it off that its disgusting how you have to put up with smokers in a pub if you have the CHOICE to go in or not go in.
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I haven't said it is 'disgusting that I have to put up with smokers', more that smoking itself is disgusting, and that I don't want to put up with it.
As for smoking in pubs. I think if food is not being served in that pub then it should be up to the owner if his or her pub is smoking or non smoking. We are adults and as such have a choice. Visit the smoking pub or don't visit the smoking pub. I don't see teams of white horse's dragging ADULTS in to pubs.
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Originally Posted by Bill C
If you don't want to go to a smoking pub THEN DONT. Don't go mouthing it off that its disgusting how you have to put up with smokers in a pub if you have the CHOICE to go in or not go in. I have the choice and i make sure i make the choice for me not for anyone else. When the time comes that we are forced in to pubs then i will withdraw my statement. I am a ADULT and i don't like other ADULTS telling me what i can and cannot do just because THEY think it should be there WAY
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Adults, choice, no need to highlight these words. In my opinion, there is nothing nannying about stopping smokers from smoking in public places. It's not the same as saying now come on smokers, hand me your cigarettes, cos we have decided you are not to smoke them any more. Just smoke them in your own space.
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Originally Posted by orangebird
Thankfully, he's not hypocrytical like some ex-smokers can be.
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I don't think it's hypocritical to realise the error of your ways and to express that your former type of behaviour is wrong. Were I still a smoker, and say, smoked in front of some people but not others, or smoked in pubs but not nightclubs, and criticised those that did then yes, I would be hypocritical.
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