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Hugh	14-05-2026 14:46

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Farage doesn't help himself (except to other peoples' money), does he?

In an interview with Harry Cole in the Sun, he says the £5,000,000 was a

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“reward for campaigning for Brexit for 27 years”

The House of Commons - The Code of Conduct states

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Category 5: Gifts and benefits from sources outside the UK
THRESHOLD FOR REGISTRATION

39. Members must register, subject to the paragraphs below, any gifts or benefits with a value of over £300 which they receive from a source outside the UK. They must also register multiple benefits from the same source if taken together these have a value of more than £300 in a calendar year.[36]

REQUIREMENTS FOR REGISTRATION
40. Under this category Members must register:

Any benefits which relate in any way to their membership of the House or parliamentary or political activities, if provided by a source outside the UK either free or at concessionary rates

https://publications.parliament.uk/p...076/107604.htm

And totally coincidentally, Farage was promoting Tether (Harborne is a major shareholder in this, owning 12% of the shares) on Nick Ferrari's LBC Radio show last September...

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Mr Farage publicly promoted Tether, the cryptocurrency Mr Harborne is a shareholder in.

In an interview with Nick Ferrari on LBC in September, Mr Farage said of Tether: “We should hang on to this and wait till they mature and secondly, Nick, I’m going to go tomorrow to say this, you know, Tether is a stable coin.

“Stable coins are the way which money goes from conventional currencies through into cryptocurrencies and back again. Tether, about to be valued as a $500bn company. You know, stable coins, crypto, this world is enormous and I’ve been urging for years that London should embrace it.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2877908.html

Meanwhile, back in reality

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Key Takeaways

Tether initially aimed to raise $15–20 billion in fresh capital while targeting a $500 billion valuation in 2025.
A 23% drop in net profit to $10 billion, combined with rising investor caution, forced the firm to scale back its fundraising ambitions.
The once-hyped fundraising quietly lost momentum and appears to have collapsed amid broader crypto market turmoil.

Tether, issuer of the world’s largest stablecoin USDT, announced in September 2025 plans to raise $15–20 billion via a private placement, aiming for a valuation near $500 billion.

By early 2026, these ambitious plans had faltered amid investor skepticism and market volatility.

Investors Back Away From Tether’s Massive Valuation

Tether’s fundraising target of $15–20 billion at a $500 billion valuation has collapsed.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tethe...l?guccounter=1

Carth

14-05-2026 15:39

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It's good to see he's not bothering you much Hugh, have another whisky and lie down for a bit ;)

p.s. . . any decent book recommendations?

Hugh	14-05-2026 16:52

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Some of the ones I’ve read this year

World War 3.2 - John Birmingham
World War 3.3 - John Birmingham
Platform Decay (Murderbot) - Martha Wells
Artemis (re-read) - Andy Weir
Exit Strategy - Lee Child
God’s Junk Drawer - Peter Clines
The Dog Stars - Peter Heller
The Mercy of Gods - James SA Corey

Sephiroth

14-05-2026 17:02

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I'm a John Birmingham fan too. There's hope for Hugh yet.

Hugh	14-05-2026 17:14

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215503)

I'm a John Birmingham fan too. There's hope for Hugh yet.

I support his Patreon, so get the books early & free.

Sephiroth

14-05-2026 18:07

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215505)

I support his Patreon, so get the books early & free.

Thanks. You'll prolly go off me now - but I'm a serious Harry Turtledove fan.

Hugh	14-05-2026 18:27

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215512)

Thanks. You'll prolly go off me now - but I'm a serious Harry Turtledove fan.

Me, too - also, S M Stirling, John Scalzi, Edward Ashton, Tim Pratt, Richard K Morgan, Charlie Stross et al.

We probably have more things in common than in which we differ, just that the things where we differ outweigh the commonalities... (probably)

Sephiroth

14-05-2026 18:32

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215517)

I'll chalk that up to peace in our time!

Carth

14-05-2026 19:17

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Cheers Hugh, these 2 interest me at the moment, read the others (I think lol)

God’s Junk Drawer - Peter Clines
The Mercy of Gods - James SA Corey

Currently struggling through 'Bone Silence' by Alastair Reynolds. SciFi, interesting but seems long winded in places.

Books, the great peacemaker :D

Hugh	14-05-2026 19:35

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215522)

Cheers Hugh, these 2 interest me at the moment, read the others (I think lol)

God’s Junk Drawer - Peter Clines
The Mercy of Gods - James SA Corey

Currently struggling through 'Bone Silence' by Alastair Reynolds. SciFi, interesting but seems long winded in places.

Books, the great peacemaker :D

Book 2 in the series has just come out - The Faith of Beasts

Carth

14-05-2026 19:39

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215525)

Book 2 in the series has just come out - The Faith of Beasts

Cheers, will search. Glad books are now digital, I'd need a 3 storey garage if books were all still made of paper ;)

Sephiroth

14-05-2026 21:00

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215526)

Cheers, will search. Glad books are now digital, I'd need a 3 storey garage if books were all still made of paper ;)

I've got 300+ SF books on shelves on a wall. These were bought between 1970 and 2004. Of course now it's digital. Back then (1970), Asimov was the must have author.

Hugh	14-05-2026 21:24

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215533)

I've got 300+ SF books on shelves on a wall. These were bought between 1970 and 2004. Of course now it's digital. Back then (1970), Asimov was the must have author.

I had three bookcases full of (mostly) science fiction, Reacher, Harlan Coben, Nelson De Mille, various other thriller writers, quite a lot of non-fiction, around 500 books in total - they all went to the local Oxfam book shop when we had (what was) my home office redecorated and refurnished last year.

All my books are now on my iPad & Kindle (around 500 to read - I’m an impulse book buyer).

Paul	14-05-2026 21:29

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Ok, can we get back to Reform UK please. :)

Carth

14-05-2026 21:36

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Almost all of my books went the same way, charity shops . . it's amazing how much free space you suddenly acquire once they've gone.

I use 'cool reader' on the PC, Laptop, and a cheapo 10" tablet for my thousands of Epubs, with 'Calibre' to convert any Mobi books I come across.

Wife keeps wanting me to get rid of my Albums (records) too but they're staying :D

edit: sorry Paul, was trying hard not to write a novella and missed your post.

GrimUpNorth

15-05-2026 11:32

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I do feel a degree of sympathy for our Nige. I challenge anyone to be able to recall exactly why someone gave them £5m, I know I'd struggle to remember the background to such an everyday event.

Carth

15-05-2026 11:57

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I think you're all doing Nige a big disservice.
Obviously any money donated was to further his kind hearted attempts to ease the sufferings of those poor boat people.

The 4 houses will be used to accommodate many of those who have risked life and limb to reach our great country in order to do the jobs our folk won't do (Doctors, Nurses, Dentists, IT Consultants, Teachers etc), and has gone even further with all 4 houses being signed up to a meals on wheels company to ensure they all get adequate healthy sustenance while awaiting their citizenship interviews.
On top of this, all people accommodated will have access to private medical care (already paid for) to help reduce the NHS workload.

He won't have much change out of the £5 million :shocked:

Alternatively, he could be pissing it up the wall and having a jolly good time, thank you, while knowing that in the end he doesn't really have much chance of becoming PM or Reform forming an alliance with any of the other parties.

Fair play, I know which one I'd be doing :Yes:

Hugh	15-05-2026 12:34

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Good point, well made…

Hugh	15-05-2026 13:09

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...HLR5obF87qwgXw

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The Conservative Party has suspended its group leader in Worcestershire, after he struck a deal with the Green Party and others to oust Worcestershire County Council's minority Reform UK administration.

Councillor Adam Kent's suspension came after a full council meeting on Thursday that saw the Tories team up with the Green Party, Liberal Democrats and independents to form an alliance.

The move saw Reform lose control of the council after 12 months in charge.

After the meeting, a Conservative Party spokesperson said: "The chairman was very clear on a number of occasions that the Conservative Party was totally opposed to the proposed arrangement at Worcestershire County Council.

"The Conservative group leader did not make our opposition clear to his fellow Worcestershire councillors, and has been suspended pending investigation.

"Conservative campaign headquarters has made clear to our councillors that this arrangement must not go ahead."

It is not yet clear how the suspension will affect the coalition.

Speaking after the deal had been struck earlier today, Kent said, of the new power-sharing arrangement: "On national policy there are many areas where we continue to disagree with the Greens - however, local government is not Westminster.

"Over the last year residents have suffered appallingly due to the instability of Reform in Worcestershire.

"At some point, responsible councillors have to stop standing on the side lines."

Green councillor Matt Jenkins was made the new council leader of the coalition.

Discussing his new role, he said it was a "privilege" but also "daunting", because "we've got massive cuts, but we don't want to cut things that affect residents".

Jenkins said it would be "a tough nine months" leading up to February's budget.

The new council leader said: "We need to sort out a lot of things, but by working together, hopefully, we can get things done without damaging vital services that residents value."

Asked about what the appointment meant to him personally, he said: "It's great for me, but it's not something that I've really been pushing for in my political career.

"I joined the Green Party because I was concerned about the environment and all those types of issues, and of course I want to do well for my residents."

The change in administration comes after former Reform councillor Jo Monk, who was leader of the authority, was suspended from the party after losing a bitter internal leadership battle.

Up until this week Reform held 25 of the 57 seats on the council, with the party running a minority administration after it came to power following last year's local elections.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1778850514

Carth

15-05-2026 13:17

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Won't make a big difference to the constituents

"we've got massive cuts, but we don't want to cut things that affect residents"

. . said almost every local council

Hom3r

15-05-2026 13:43

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215533)

I've got 300+ SF books on shelves on a wall. These were bought between 1970 and 2004. Of course now it's digital. Back then (1970), Asimov was the must have author.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215534)

I have a small collection of around 1,500 books, listed on a app on my phone, some predate ISBNs.

I have run out of room, but will still buy books I want.

Hugh	15-05-2026 14:08

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215573)

Won't make a big difference to the constituents

"we've got massive cuts, but we don't want to cut things that affect residents"

. . said almost every local council

I wonder why?

https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...unding-england

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How has local government funding changed since 2010?
Local authority ‘spending power’ – the amount of money authorities have to spend from government grants, council tax and business rates – fell by 22.6% in real terms between 2010/11 and 2019/20. Since then, funding has recovered somewhat, though in 2025/26 was still 8.2% lower in real terms than in 2010/11. Spending power will increase further throughout this parliament but will still be 0.5% lower in real terms in 2028/29 than in 2010/11. When accounting for population growth, spending power fell 27.5% in real terms between 2010/11 and 2019/20 and will still be 13.7% lower in real terms in 2028/29 than in 2010/11.

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Since 2009/10, local authorities have spent an ever larger proportion of their budgets on more acute, demand-led services such as adult and children’s social care. Local authorities spent just over half (53.0%) of their budgets on those two services in 2009/10, compared to more than two-thirds (68.5%) in 2024/25. More recently, local authorities’ budgets have come under pressure from rising demand for homelessness and special educational needs and disabilities (SEND) services.

Sephiroth

15-05-2026 14:14

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The answer to all this is to grow the economy so that funds can be provided for the increased demand.

Reform UK need to focus on this and explain the HOW of achieving this.

Carth

15-05-2026 14:18

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I could be wrong . . for a change lol . . but didn't central Government make all local councils go self funding* (or something) which really screwed things up.

*then spent untold billions on a train line so that 3 people in Manchester could get to London 13 minutes faster.

Hugh	15-05-2026 16:27

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If you look two posts up from your’s - yes…

Carth

15-05-2026 16:36

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oh . . that post didn't actually set it out in basic words . . like "we need to balance our books, so screw you, you're on your own" ;)

1andrew1

15-05-2026 18:09

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215585)

oh . . that post didn't actually set it out in basic words . . like "we need to balance our books, so screw you, you're on your own" ;)

Over 30% of local authoritiy spending still comes from central government.

OLD BOY

15-05-2026 19:01

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36215565)

I do feel a degree of sympathy for our Nige. I challenge anyone to be able to recall exactly why someone gave them £5m, I know I'd struggle to remember the background to such an everyday event.

He’s never been confused by it. He used it for the purposes it was given - his security.

I know you wish it wasn’t, but…..

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215567)

I think you're all doing Nige a big disservice.
Obviously any money donated was to further his kind hearted attempts to ease the sufferings of those poor boat people.

The 4 houses will be used to accommodate many of those who have risked life and limb to reach our great country in order to do the jobs our folk won't do (Doctors, Nurses, Dentists, IT Consultants, Teachers etc), and has gone even further with all 4 houses being signed up to a meals on wheels company to ensure they all get adequate healthy sustenance while awaiting their citizenship interviews.
On top of this, all people accommodated will have access to private medical care (already paid for) to help reduce the NHS workload.

He won't have much change out of the £5 million :shocked:
Have you seen the polls lately?

Alternatively, he could be pissing it up the wall and having a jolly good time, thank you, while knowing that in the end he doesn't really have much chance of becoming PM or Reform forming an alliance with any of the other parties.

Fair play, I know which one I'd be doing :Yes:

Have you seen the polls lately?

Carth

15-05-2026 19:03

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36215591)

Over 30% of local authoritiy spending still comes from central government.

Right . . so that's anywhere between 30.01% to 99.99% . . a politicians answer if ever I read one :D

Sephiroth

15-05-2026 19:23

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Wasn't it over 50% 10 years ago?

pip08456

15-05-2026 19:39

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36215565)

I do feel a degree of sympathy for our Nige. I challenge anyone to be able to recall exactly why someone gave them £5m, I know I'd struggle to remember the background to such an everyday event.

I'm sorry Grim, I never realised you were used to recieving money in such amounts that it would be an everyday event.

Hugh	15-05-2026 20:44

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36215593)

He’s never been confused by it. He used it for the purposes it was given - his security.

I know you wish it wasn’t, but…..

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Have you seen the polls lately?

Then why did he say

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"It's very unusual for someone to give up 27 years of their life to campaign for something.

"And this was given to me on an unconditional basis, completely unconditional basis. But frankly, it was given as a reward for campaigning for Brexit for 27 years."

"unconditional "

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complete and not limited in any way:

1andrew1

15-05-2026 21:08

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36215593)

He’s never been confused by it. He used it for the purposes it was given - his security.

Farage said it was given as a thank you for Brexit. By security, I assume you mean his financial security.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215596)

Wasn't it over 50% 10 years ago?

Pretty sure it was but haven't researched it

GrimUpNorth

16-05-2026 14:22

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36215597)

I'm sorry Grim, I never realised you were used to recieving money in such amounts that it would be an everyday event.

Can't move in our house for suitcases bursting with cash.

Itshim

16-05-2026 15:00

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36215619)

Can't move in our house for suitcases bursting with cash.

may I recommend Lichtenstein :D

Sephiroth

16-05-2026 15:28

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36215620)

may I recommend Lichtenstein :D

... and may I suggest Rosie's Kitchen in Vaduz?

Hugh	16-05-2026 15:43

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36215620)

may I recommend Lichtenstein :D

The painter?

Sephiroth

16-05-2026 15:51

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215622)

The painter?

This is Hugh's way of correcting Itshim's spelling!

Hugh	16-05-2026 16:07

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215623)

This is Hugh's way of correcting Itshim's spelling!

Not really - Roy Lichtenstein’s painting are a really good investment if you happen to have suitcases bulging with cash just laying around.

One went for $165 million…

or

It was a joke… :rolleyes:

Sephiroth

16-05-2026 17:06

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215626)

Good try.

GrimUpNorth

16-05-2026 17:23

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If I had that much cash, I think I'd still refer a nice photo of my nearest and dearest.

OLD BOY

16-05-2026 17:26

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215598)

Then why did he say

"unconditional "

It was 'unconditional' on the basis that the donor did not expect a commitment to do anything in return.

You're getting desperate now, Hugh!

GrimUpNorth

16-05-2026 18:14

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36215629)

It was 'unconditional' on the basis that the donor did not expect a commitment to do anything in return.

You're getting desperate now, Hugh!

Why can't the come up with 1 reason for the money changing hands and stick to it? Surely if the truth is so innocent then they've nothing to worry about, but they come across as desperate for the story to go away.

It seems to me Nigel has come up with a superb scheme to use (gullible) people like you so he can trouser as much cash as possible. Do you want to buy some snake oil?

1andrew1

16-05-2026 19:02

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215595)

Right . . so that's anywhere between 30.01% to 99.99% . . a politicians answer if ever I read one :D

I was keeping it simple as requested. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. :D

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36215630)

I think he's already bought the snake oil of the streaming variety! ;)

Sephiroth

16-05-2026 19:14

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I don't think it right to associate OB with snake oil. It is a term attributable to Mandelson in most circles. So not OB.

Hugh	16-05-2026 20:30

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36215629)

It was 'unconditional' on the basis that the donor did not expect a commitment to do anything in return.

You're getting desperate now, Hugh!

If you believe that, I can now understand why you vote Reform…

Sephiroth

16-05-2026 21:19

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I find it better to let these things play out by themselves rather than justifying someone else's behaviour just based on their word.

It's a great shame that Farage is in this pickle. Kemi isn't, if you see what I mean.

1andrew1

16-05-2026 21:27

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215646)

You reap what you sow.

Hugh	17-05-2026 16:04

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Badenoch criticises Reform over councillor’s ‘disgusting’ posts

Kemi Badenoch has said that she was “really shocked” by Richard Tice refusing to directly condemn comments about Nigerians being melted down and used to “fill in the potholes”.

Glenn Gibbins, who last week was elected as a Reform councillor in Sunderland, made the comments on social media in 2024, and has been suspended by the party.

Gibbins has apologised, saying the posts “were intended as joke, but were made in extremely poor taste”.

Badenoch told Sky News’s Sunday Morning With Trevor Phillips: “I think that was a disgusting comment that that Reform candidate made, and the Reform [deputy] leader … Richard Tice, wouldn’t even condemn it. That’s what I’m worried about. People say all sorts of stupid things, they should get slapped down when they do that.”

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics...live-vg6wlqzlq (10:30am)

Itshim

17-05-2026 16:35

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215652)

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics...live-vg6wlqzlq (10:30am)

I wonder how many think it's funny, just can't say so.

Hugh	17-05-2026 16:52

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36215653)

I wonder how many think it's funny, just can't say so.

I believe you may have indicated your inclination by that question…

1andrew1

17-05-2026 17:53

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215652)

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics...live-vg6wlqzlq (10:30am)

I wonder how many votes they fear they would lose if they condemned this properly?

Carth

17-05-2026 21:18

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36215653)

I wonder how many think it's funny, just can't say so.

Made me chuckle :D

Hugh	17-05-2026 23:34

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https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/05/5.gif

papa smurf

18-05-2026 06:26

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215667)

Made me chuckle :D

me too.

Sephiroth

18-05-2026 07:30

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215688)

me too.

Couldn't see what was being referred to. So, left me cold.

Hugh	18-05-2026 08:34

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Badenoch criticises Reform over councillor’s ‘disgusting’ posts

Kemi Badenoch has said that she was “really shocked” by Richard Tice refusing to directly condemn comments about Nigerians being melted down and used to “fill in the potholes”.

Glenn Gibbins, who last week was elected as a Reform councillor in Sunderland, made the comments on social media in 2024, and has been suspended by the party.

Gibbins has apologised, saying the posts “were intended as joke, but were made in extremely poor taste”.

Badenoch told Sky News’s Sunday Morning With Trevor Phillips: “I think that was a disgusting comment that that Reform candidate made, and the Reform [deputy] leader … Richard Tice, wouldn’t even condemn it. That’s what I’m worried about. People say all sorts of stupid things, they should get slapped down when they do that.”

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36215653)

I wonder how many think it's funny, just can't say so.

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215667)

Made me chuckle :D

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215667)

Made me chuckle :D

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215688)

me too.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215691)

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

me too.’

Couldn't see what was being referred to. So, left me cold.

Sephiroth

18-05-2026 08:45

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Now that I understand (thanks Hugh). Itshim got it right.

papa smurf

18-05-2026 08:46

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215691)

Couldn't see what was being referred to. So, left me cold.

i watched it on the Trevor Philips show, it made me chuckle because kemi is of Nigerian descent ,it was just a joke ive heared worse .

Sephiroth

18-05-2026 08:57

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I can imagine one or two politicians that could more usefully be melted down to be turned into spaghetti or dumplings, preferably then fed to pigs.

Lammy gets a reprieve from me because of his entertainment value.

Carth

18-05-2026 09:07

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Question (or two):

Would chuckling at that (as I did) instantly cast me as racist?

Is there a Government list somewhere stating what I can laugh at, as well as a list of things I can't laugh at?

Is there actually anything classed as humour today that is funny enough to laugh at?

Do Englishmen, Irishmen and Scotsmen not go into a pub anymore?

Sephiroth

18-05-2026 09:12

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215700)

Don't forget the Jew and the Catholic.

papa smurf

18-05-2026 09:23

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215700)

Question (or two):

Would chuckling at that (as I did) instantly cast me as racist?

Is there a Government list somewhere stating what I can laugh at, as well as a list of things I can't laugh at?

Is there actually anything classed as humour today that is funny enough to laugh at?

Do Englishmen, Irishmen and Scotsmen not go into a pub anymore?

it depends on weather the accuser has read the book titled virtue signaling by i r woke.

Carth

18-05-2026 09:31

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215702)

it depends on weather the accuser has read the book titled virtue signaling by i r woke.

Yes, I guess that's what it all comes down to nowadays.

Anyway, I must disappear for a few minutes, I have to go flagellate myself with stinging nettles due to having impure thoughts about Irishmen on building sites :shocked:

papa smurf

18-05-2026 09:34

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215703)

as long as you're not having thoughts about wolf whistling women from said building sites

Sephiroth

18-05-2026 09:39

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Indeed, what is racist? Calling the French "Frogs"? The Irish "Micks"? The Jews "Yids"? The Welsh "Taffs"? The Scottish "Jocks"? The Germans "Krauts"? The Spanish "Spics"? And so on. Haven't got one for Muslims, note - nor Christians for that matter - but the Jews have always been vilified and so they have a handle.

I haven't heard anyone from Reform UK using these common terms. Perhaps they're afraid of the hypocritical backlash and outrage that would be fired at them.

I so bloody hate woke.

Carth

18-05-2026 10:04

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That's the thing, everyone got the same treatment, no matter what race, religion, sex (now called gender), shape or form . . even animals and aliens weren't spared ;)

Do you laugh if you see someone walk into a lamp post whilst checking their facebook status? I do . . and laugh again when they glance round to see if anyone saw it :D

Same with seeing an umbrella turn inside out in a gale, that's funny, as is a seagull pinching someone's chips.

It was said Laughter is the best medicine, now nobody laughs anymore and people are ill . . . just look at the NHS waiting list. <Logic, tell me I'm wrong> . . that's a joke by the way :p:

Sephiroth

18-05-2026 11:05

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I don't pretend that the types who are Reform UK members are all non-bigots in terms of race and religion. But then the same is true of Labour, particularly the left wing of Corbynites and the Gaza lot, who find Jews distasteful.

The Tories (my party) are the normal middle class people, to my mind (this remark will be seized on, I suspect). But the leadership there is woke beyond desperation and thus won't openly allude to the takeover this country is facing from the alien culture invading our country.

Reform UK calls it out and I want my party to come to an arrangement with Reform UK.

GrimUpNorth

18-05-2026 12:05

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Yeah you're all 100% correct, it is OK to pass comments on someone's skin colour, ethnicity, gender or religion. Maybe that's because you're probably all white middle aged males who won't identify as any of the groups you feel it's ok to ridicule.

Call me woke if you want, but when your the but of 'jokes' or comments because you are what you are then it hurts. But you lot are OK so let it long continue. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

papa smurf

18-05-2026 12:56

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he's read the book

Hugh	18-05-2026 13:14

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36215710)

Well, it’s not often you find the surviving members of the Bernard Manning Appreciation Society in one place, so the critical mass is only to be expected…

Sephiroth

18-05-2026 14:38

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215712)

Well, it’s not often you find the surviving members of the Bernard Manning Appreciation Society in one place, so the critical mass is only to be expected…

Another one (Hugh) you, on this forum at least, is blinkered to what's going on. The Gazan wedge in Parliament is sure evidence.

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36215710)

Just for the record, I don't ridicule ethnic or religious groups and I don't think any one else in this thread does.

I do ridicule the woke and, of course, some of the politicians.

Hugh	18-05-2026 14:57

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https://ft.trib.al/dtJOxC3

Whoops…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1779116104

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1779116104

papa smurf

18-05-2026 15:08

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probably bought it out of his beer money

Hugh	18-05-2026 15:24

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215719)

probably bought it out of his beer money

Or not (according to Reform)

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Nigel Farage paid for a £1.4m house in 2024 using money he received for taking part in I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out of Here, Reform UK have told the BBC.

Sky News reported on Thursday, external that Farage completed the purchase of the house shortly after he received £5m from Reform mega donor Christopher Harborne.

Harborne's payment, which Reform UK say was a personal gift to be used for Farage's security, is now the subject on an inquiry by the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner.

But Reform say the property purchase was completely unrelated to Harborne's payment and was instead funded with money from his appearance on the ITV reality programme.

Land registry documents seen by the BBC show that Nigel Farage completed the purchase of a £1.42m property in Surrey on 10 May 2024.

The documents show that the purchase was made in cash and without the use of a mortgage.

papa smurf

18-05-2026 15:31

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it's not keeping me awake at night

OLD BOY

18-05-2026 19:10

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36215630)

I think you’re just scrabbling around to find some dirt to pin on him. You won’t succeed.

Farage has explained everything, and when this investigation is finished, you will no doubt be very disappointed.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215642)

If you believe that, I can now understand why you vote Reform…

They were friends. Stop being so cynical.

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215700)

Not if the politicians you had in mind were white… :LOL::p:

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36215710)

It’s OK if such comments are not hateful or vindictive or designed as a put down. If it’s done in good humour, people are being a bit silly taking offence by it.

When I hear black people joking about whites, am I offended? Of course not. People are so thin skinned these days, it’s pathetic.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215718)

https://ft.trib.al/dtJOxC3

Whoops…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1779116104

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1779116104

Well, let’s hear his explanation. It could be, for example, that the income enabled him to go ahead with the purchase, but he used a different stash of money to pay for it. Without the payment, he may not have made the decision to buy the property. People make far too many assumptions without waiting for explanations.

Dingbat

18-05-2026 19:32

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Or perhaps he borrowed the money from his girlfriend? The ex-waitress who paid cash for the house in Clacton?

papa smurf

18-05-2026 19:35

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maybe he's a multi millionaire who bought a house

nomadking

19-05-2026 07:08

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The initial claim from the "media" was that he didn't have the money. Now they're saying he did. So which is it?

Hugh	19-05-2026 08:24

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36215750)

The initial claim from the "media" was that he didn't have the money. Now they're saying he did. So which is it?

Is this "claim" in the room with you?

Can you provide a link to this "claim", please?

1andrew1

19-05-2026 09:30

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Farage from Foreign Accounts has changed his story more times than Sir Keir changes his policies, so I thought I'd best summarise where we are:

It was initially a gift of £5m with no conditions attached.
Then it became a payment for the purpose of security.
Then it became a payment for his Brexit campaigning.
£1.4m of the £5m wasn't used to pay for his house, because the house was funded from his I'm a Celebrity appearance.
His accounts show the house wasn't bought using funds from his I'm a Celebrity appearance.

Farage may be able to fool some people but I suspect the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner won't be one of them.

If there is a by-election in Southend, will British Reform voters be as forgiving as American MAGA voters? Perhaps his flock will fall for a line about his being victimised by the establishment? He can at least draw upon his Coutts Bank experience to back up this line.

1andrew1

19-05-2026 14:15

Re: Reform UK's chronicles

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215741)

maybe he's a multi millionaire who bought a house

Great comment on the FT article Hugh linked to :D

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Let he who hasn’t received a £5m personal donation from a Thai crypto billionaire and claimed it was for personal security when it was actually used to buy a house cast the first stone.

daveeb

19-05-2026 14:26

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36215765)

Great comment on the FT article Hugh linked to :D

:LOL:

Hugh	20-05-2026 08:56

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:D

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1779267353

papa smurf

20-05-2026 09:01

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yawn :sleep: do us all a favor and get a hobby

Sephiroth

20-05-2026 10:02

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Farage is a great man (from a leaver’s perspective). Hugh’s persective is that of a remainer, possibly rejoiner. Hugh would presumably accept Brussels’ diktat and be pleased to get cliser to the perfidioys Irish and Spanish antisemites. Almost begs a Hugh Chronicles.

Jaymoss

20-05-2026 10:16

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My perspective is Farage can not be trusted . I am not one for conspiracy theories but there are things going on with crypto that if true could mean life will become far more restricted. Some of what I have been told makes sense and if you look at the muppets/puppets that have been in charge for what seems a long long time I just can not dismiss the allegation things are being steered in certain directions

Mr K	20-05-2026 10:17

Re: Reform UK's chronicles

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215822)

Whats Nigel ever done when he did have power? European parliament - nothing, Clacton - nothing.... All the signs that like his buddy Trump, he's just in it for money .

Jaymoss

20-05-2026 10:18

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36215825)

Whats Nigel ever done when he did have power? European parliament - nothing, Clacton - nothing.... All the signs that like his buddy Trump, he's just in it for money .

in it for the crypto mate both of them

Mr K	20-05-2026 10:18

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215819)

:D

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1779267353

Is that a parody ? Sounds real to me.

Itshim

20-05-2026 11:01

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36215825)

Whats Nigel ever done when he did have power? European parliament - nothing, Clacton - nothing.... All the signs that like his buddy Trump, he's just in it for money .

Not much you can do as a minority party , even under the system used in the UK were a minority of the votes party has a high parliamentary majority. :erm:

1andrew1

20-05-2026 11:37

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36215824)

Crypto is just a way of getting around sanctions - be those sanctions against unlawful individuals or unlawful countries.

Ben Habib alleges that Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson were paid £1m each by Christopher Harborne to ensure the Brexit Party was not in competition with Conservative seats at the 2019 general election. Neither has sued him yet. Here's Ben Habib making this allegation.
https://x.com/i/status/2054099929568620703

Carth

20-05-2026 11:47

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What's Nigel ever done?

Well for one, he has the knack of scaring the crap out of the other parties and the Media.

Why is that do you think? Is it because he could actually become PM?
Is it because he likes to highlight some 'problems' in the UK that they daren't mention?
Is it because they see people turning away from the mainstream politics that have failed for so many years, and now fear for the end of their ride on the gravy train?

Answers on a postcard please . . actually no, answers on a voting form ;)

Jaymoss

20-05-2026 11:51

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36215832)

It is more than that Crypto is being heavily manipulated by the 1% . They decide which coins work they allow certain coins to do well for a while and then manipulate crashes so the 1% can buy it all up which instantly causes the value to skyrocket. XRP mark my words. If this does continue to develop how I have been informed it will then well I am not going to continue as it could all be A male of the Bovine species Excrement .

Hugh	20-05-2026 12:01

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215834)

What's Nigel ever done?

Well for one, he has the knack of scaring the crap out of the other parties and the Media.

Why is that do you think? Is it because he could actually become PM?
Is it because he likes to highlight some 'problems' in the UK that they daren't mention?
Is it because they see people turning away from the mainstream politics that have failed for so many years, and now fear for the end of their ride on the gravy train?

Answers on a postcard please . . actually no, answers on a voting form ;)

Well, it looks like Farage is on the gravy cruise liner…

Carth

20-05-2026 12:02

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There's been a few occasions when the World has seen the big players dump huge amounts of bitcoin . . then buying it all back after the price has dropped.

Nothing new here, just the same shysters preying on the gullible :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215837)

Well, it looks like Farage is on the gravy cruise liner…

Never said he wasn't, but the rest are worried of losing their share

Sephiroth

20-05-2026 14:14

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The Remoaners play the man, not the issue. When they do try addressing the issue, they talk vaguely about our largest trading partner, but they can't put justifiable numbers to the claimed benefits of rejoining. Poor Brexit today is the result o failure in government policies; not Brexit per se.

Farage helped get us away from the Brussels yoke and governments screwed it up.

Hugh	20-05-2026 15:16

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215849)

The Remoaners play the man, not the issue. When they do try addressing the issue, they talk vaguely about our largest trading partner, but they can't put justifiable numbers to the claimed benefits of rejoining. Poor Brexit today is the result o failure in government policies; not Brexit per se.

Farage helped get us away from the Brussels yoke and governments screwed it up.

<cough cough>

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215822)

Farage is a great man (from a leaver’s perspective). Hugh’s persective is that of a remainer, possibly rejoiner. Hugh would presumably accept Brussels’ diktat and be pleased to get cliser to the perfidioys Irish and Spanish antisemites. Almost begs a Hugh Chronicles.

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/05/6.gif

OLD BOY

20-05-2026 16:54

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Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36215740)

Or perhaps he borrowed the money from his girlfriend? The ex-waitress who paid cash for the house in Clacton?

With girl friends like that, I can see why Farage is constantly smiling!

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36215756)

Farage from Foreign Accounts has changed his story more times than Sir Keir changes his policies, so I thought I'd best summarise where we are:

It was initially a gift of £5m with no conditions attached.
Then it became a payment for the purpose of security.
Then it became a payment for his Brexit campaigning.
£1.4m of the £5m wasn't used to pay for his house, because the house was funded from his I'm a Celebrity appearance.
His accounts show the house wasn't bought using funds from his I'm a Celebrity appearance.

The first three are connected and all are true.

I don’t know about the issue about the house, simply that ‘I’m a Celebrity’ simply enabled him to buy it. It doesn’t matter which account he took it from - he’s probably got multiple accounts.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215819)

:D

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1779267353

He’s on YouTube quite a lot, actually.

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36215824)

I wouldn’t take any notice of smear campaigns unless a subsequent investigation proved them to be true.

If you think Farage can’t be trusted, do you not have even greater qualms about Starmer or Polanski? Starmer is breaking his promises and U-turning more often than a drunk driver who has hopelessly lost his way and Polanski lives in a fantasy world. But you focus on Farage, whose stated objective is to repair the economy, cut waste and stop illegal immigration in its tracks ( and he even has a plan to do this!).

I know who’d I would prefer to be in charge. Badenoch is good too, but her left wing keeps throwing obstacles in the way of achieving what the electorate want.

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36215830)

Not much you can do as a minority party , even under the system used in the UK were a minority of the votes party has a high parliamentary majority. :erm:

Yes, and the EU is driven by the bureaucrats, not the politicians.

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215834)

You’ve got that right, Carth.

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