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On Paramount+ US - all 20 episodes of Season 12 are available to view now - the series ended in May on CBS.

The UK is way behind - as with many US series - and only gets episode 1 of season 12 next week.

Similar situation with the FBI trilogy.

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It all depends on the contracts between the two companies. If the content is owned by Viacom then I'm sure it will move to Paramount + eventually once the contract with Sky is up. Of course, if Paramount + is not as successful as they hope in the UK, then they may prefer to licence some content to Sky.

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It certainly will. Although the extent to which these are sustainable is up for debate. However with an extensive back catalogue and without the eye watering debt levels of Netflix they should be better placed longer term.

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TBH all these services just encourage piracy and the hunt for work arounds to get it cheap.

I do feel if they all come together and charged a fair price they would make more money but that will never happen

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Sky Sports and Premier Sports to stop broadcasting MLS as Apple wins 10 year deal for MLS World rights.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2022...ext-ten-years/

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It could work. If all content was available in a streaming cloud, viewers could subscribe for a service with various tiers of content and pay per view, with content providers paid according to the number of viewers who watch their content.

That, I think, would be more viewer-friendly than requiring everyone to subscribe to lots of different streamers to view the maximum range of content.

Will it happen? Not in my lifetime, I suspect.

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the second you start charging pay per view all value for money out the window. People will pay a fortune for Sky just for Sports so it is not out the question someone would pay say 15 to 20 quid per month for an all in one bundle which includes all the main subs but as it stands no one wants to pay the combined cost which would end up a stupid price

I pay about £60 a year and this gives me access to everything by other means plus £5 Netflix £4 Prime £1 Tidal and £1.20 for youtube premium and this gives me value for money. I would be prepared to pay for premium subs if it was fair while it is not I will not

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any idea if disney plus will come to v6 or not?

secondly any idea if the v6 will get the new tv software? i think we were told it was due about 3 years ago or will it only be available for the new virgin boxes? i thought virgin medias contract with tivo had ended?

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If it had, there wouldn't be any of their customers still using TiVo based boxes. I'll be a support contact now.

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Nat Geo will be removed from NOW on 28th of June with Alibi added on the same day and NBC News Now added on 21st of June.
https://community.bt.com/t5/TV-Conte...s/td-p/2236679

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Not surprised to see Nat Geo being removed from NOW as it was only a matter of time. Good to see Alibi added as that was always a rather obvious omission.

So from the end of the month, NOW Entertainment will include...

2 entertainment channels from UKTV:
- GOLD
- Alibi

2 entertainment channels from Paramount:
- MTV
- Comedy Central

12 channels from Sky:
- Sky Showcase
- Sky Witness
- Sky Atlantic
- Sky Max
- Sky Comedy
- Sky Sci-Fi
- Sky Crime
- Sky Documentaries
- Sky Nature
- Sky History
- Sky Arts
- Sky News

3 children's channels from Paramount:
- Nick
- Nick Jr
- Nicktoons

3 children's channels from Warner Bros Discovery:
- Cartoon Network
- Boomerang
- Cartoonito

+ NBC News NOW and content from Peacock, Pick and Challenge.

Is that everything?

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I wonder for how long the Paramount channels will remain on Now once Paramount+ launches on 22 June.

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Paramount content will likely be nonexclusive, in line with movie content.

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SonicMaster is that list for NOW Entertainment everywhere, or just those who get NOW TV services via BT?

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It's Everywhere.

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Thanks.

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A small article on some of the movies coming to uk version of Paramount + with some dates https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/paramo...averick-films/

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Why are they going to stop? Stories in the US say that the league is talking to ESPN, Fox, and Univision about additional non-exclusive packages, and that it is also looking at similar deals in Canada. No reason why they won't do that in other countries such as the UK later.

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Channel 5 is showing Paramount+ original movie Halo on Wednesday night at 10pm

I’m sure there will be plenty of plugs for the new service on their channels over the coming months.

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It's actually the first episode of the Paramount+ original series, so it acts as a little taste to get people interested enough to then subscribe to watch the rest. Might work quite well.

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A streaming platform using a linear channel to showcase content. Never catch on...

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The whole series I believe will be on Channel 5, but you will be able to view the first three episodes on Paramount + from the start.

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Only the first episode is on Channel 5 , it isn't on Channel 5 on 29th.

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Sky Ticket in Germany appears to have been renamed as 'WOW'

https://www.wowtv.de/

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My Sources say that La Liga TV HD is set to close on both Sky and Virgin Media from July 1st with La Liga TV moving to streaming only from next season.

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A lot has changed in the last few weeks regarding this, don’t be surprised of this is old information as only 10 days ago Broadband TV News reported

‘ Premier Sports has also confirmed that LaLigaTV, the league’s 24/7 channel featuring all available live matches will continue to be available.’

It was set to leave Prime Channels as well and is staying now.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2022...k-rights-deal/

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I stand corrected, TimeLord, thank you for this information.

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Paramount+ is now on my Roku stick, disappointingly it doesn't have HDR or Dolby Vision and the streams seem only 1080p too :(

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They will support it 4K and HDRat a later date apparently but no Dolby Atmos only 5.1 Dolby.

Bit confusing this post it says no Atmos then it says there will be.

https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/paramo...-uk-no-4k-hdr/

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The difference between the present and the future, presumably, snoop.

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Thanks, I guess they will get me paying for their content at a later date too!

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I'll wait too. I'm really keen to see Strange New Worlds in 4k. Pretty sure the other series are all HD even if Discovery was in HDR on Netflix.

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Might be waiting a while, Paramount+ launched in Australia last August as rebrand of 10 All Access and still has no 4K or Dolby Atmos.

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I have Sky Cinema with SkyQ and get Paramount+ for free.
I have had a look at the content and it’s very thin on the ground for the wow factor anyway.
They have sections for channels such as Comedy Central and MTV etc. CC only has 6 programmes listed but mind you all it seems to show these days is Friends back to back all day every day.

There is certainly not enough to make me want to pay £6.99 for that’s for sure.

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Think given how little content is on UK Paramount+ they're taking the pee asking for £6.99p/m, maybe they should do a introduction price of say £3.99p/m until they get more content.
So in the words of Peter Jones "i'm out."

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For anyone with Xbox Game Pass wanting to try Paramount+ there is a 30 day trial coming to Game Pass on 28th June.


https://www.purexbox.com/news/2022/0...ter-this-month

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I agree. I’m not even prepared to pay £3.99 for it at the moment.

I think ITVX might prove to be better value when it launches.

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https://www.vulture.com/article/stre...&utm_source=tw

Some interesting thoughts from across the pond and suspicion about the lack of data available to creators from streaming services.

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NFL Sunday Ticket Is “Moving To A Streaming Service” From DirecTV, Commissioner Roger Goodell Confirms; Deal Expected By This Fall

https://deadline.com/2022/07/nfl-sun...ll-1235060305/

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In the USA

Sky currently have a deal to show NFL till 2025 in the UK

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The NFL already has a streaming service outside of the USA, its called NFL Game Pass,
in this country you can stream every game except those on Sky Sports

https://www.nflgamepass.com/en

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A really good service on a Sunday night but expensive at £150pa. A VPN will give you total access.

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Two small streamers may combine.
https://www.ft.com/content/bc706d82-...7-493db697e905

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DAZN are certainly not small not globally anyway.
Also that link is behind a paywall here's a better one https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/...streaming-ott/

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62158936

And so ends Netflix commitment to no adverts.

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To some extent you're right as it has a global presence. But it's small compared to its competitors like Apple, Amazon, Comcast incl Sky, Disney and Warner Bros Discovery.

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Yes I’d agree that while not available universally major sports rights owners in regions/some countries like Sky, ESPN or even to a lesser degree BEIN Media Group are larger.

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Oh totally agree with you in that comparason.

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Not really. They have added an ad-funded tier. The ad-free subscription isn't going anywhere.
Hopefully it won't be the con that NOW TV's Boost is, where I pay extra for HD(!) and an ad-free service yet I still have to sit through promotions for Sky channels before Sky Atlantic programmes.

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A commitment is a commitment, and it’s the first slide down the slope of these companies - who ostensibly are not making money finding ways to monetise their most valuable asset: your data.

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One day when I’m sufficiently bored I’ll look up my post from several years ago, in which I said this move was a racing certainty sooner or later. Plus of course the flat denials from the usual suspects.

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I'm surprised Netflix has gone down the ad route before offering discounts to keep subscribers who want to cancel.

I still haven't heard of anyone getting a special offer/discount direct from Netflix. It may be discounted when bundled with Sky/VM etc but nothing direct

Good tactic? Or plain stubborn/arrogant?

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It really works for virgins customer relationship, see it as opening a real can of worms :erm:

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Direct word would spread and everyone would pile in. Doing it online would make it so easy as to become the de facto price whether someone was even half considering cancelling.

Sky do this with Now, but it’s a risky strategy to game out 100% of your customer base with.

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A commitment? How does this change of tack affect anyone adversely? Had they decided to show ads on the existing subscription tiers, a lot of angry people would be protesting.

What they are doing is giving access to people who do not want to pay the full subscription. Nothing wrong with that.

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Yes, and that included me, for two reasons. First, I thought it would be a very wrong move to subject us all to ads when a great many people were glad to escape them with the streamers. Second, the CEO said that Netflix wouldn’t do it.

Well, now they’ve decided to go for it because circumstances have changed. But as I said to jfman, it’s of no consequence because existing subscribers are not affected.

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The same can be asked of channels maintaining a linear presence and streaming, a proposition you so vigorously oppose.

Which cannot be said of linear channels closing. There are clear losers in this scenario, and no winners.

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I think you completely misunderstand my position on this (not for the first time!).

I don’t oppose maintaining a linear presence. I just don’t think it will happen as it doesn’t make economic sense, given the alternatives.

It does depend on broadband being completely rolled out first of course, and any U-turns by this or subsequent governments. Abolition of the licence fee in favour of subscriptions cannot happen while broadcast TV over the airways continues to exist.

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Broadband isn't and never will be as reliable as a tv signal.

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I don’t think I’m misunderstanding your position at all. I’m simply pointing out the inconsistencies within it. A streamer going out their way to create an ad driven service (presumably at additional cost?) = good. A linear channel maintaining a presence - to every television in the land regardless of internet connectivity at low cost = bad/uneconomic.

I’m still yet to see you quantify how much is actually saved in this process. None of the BBC examples count as they each involve a reduction or increase in commissioned content. I’ve always been clear my statements are in relation to maintaining linear in addition to the same content being streamed.

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Didn’t you hear the Tory leadership candidate that promised full fibre for all by 2025?

Oh yeah he became PM, watered it down to gigabit capable and only 85%, £5bn became £1.2bn in the current spending review. Anyway on the whole he left a lot to be desired and they binned him.

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That isn’t the issue.

By the way, I have never had my TV interrupted by a broadband outage. However, last night we had a power cut. Only 3.5 hours, but it killed my Saturday night.

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How can it not be an issue? Speeds, congestion, outages. All impact on the ability to watch television over broadband.

Well if you’ve got Virgin Media the TV service won’t necessarily go with the broadband. Any streamers you watch obviously will.

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As I said, you misunderstand. The Conservatives have long been sympathetic to the replacement of the licence fee with a subscription method. As long as this preference continues, then it will end up as legislation and the Beeb will be obliged to cease having the licence fee available to fund their operations.

That is my premise. If anything changes, then clearly that would alter my prediction.

So pray tell me, if the government decides to go for the licence fee being abolished in favour of a subscription, how exactly is broadcasting from transmitters remotely possible?

That is your challenge, jfman. It’s not about personal preference or what you believe people want, it’s about practicalities.

My prediction is based on what I think will happen, not what I prefer will happen. Personally, as long as everything I want to watch is available to access without having to sit through adverts, I am happy. Others can do as they please.

But everything I predicted in 2015 is coming to pass. Nothing has happened that seriously challenges that prediction. And it’s still only 2022.

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I’ve never had problems with streamers either. Any more ‘problems’ you want to invent?

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Not so much alter your prediction as you be proven wrong.

I’ve been reading licence fee abolition stories since I was in nappies, OB. There’s nothing substantially changed.

And regardless - even if I accepted the premise which I don’t - I still think a commercial player would jump at being in a position to be there when someone presses “1” on their TV.

:rofl:

Is that it, broadcast television is only viable with public subsidy?

There’s nothing more practical about being an exclusively streaming service than using that to complement broadcast television. It’s less practical.

It’s not inventing things to say operators have internet outages. Most of them have a faults page such is the regularity these occur!

The bit in bold is demonstrably untrue by virtue of how frequently you wish to reduce consumer choice, not increase it.

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Especially Virgin medias.
I'm with a relatively new company though connection is superb solid 950mbs down ans 950mbs up there was issues with the ip addresses coming up as France instead of UK, they sorted it though.

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That isn't the case everywhere mate, I've hardly ever had a problem with their BB service.

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Some Conservatives…

Others are sympathetic to keeping the licence fee.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51530752

That post reflects the tone of a lot of your posts - all or nothing, sweeping statements/opinions posted as facts, and no/little supporting evidence, often distorting/misrepresenting things - are you Nadine Dorries?

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I have not been ‘proven wrong’, jfman. We are nowhere near 2035 yet but I recognise that time is a concept that you have difficulty grasping.

I don’t see the point in your reference to a ‘commercial player’. If the government decides to use the existing TV bandwidth for something else, there won’t be such a choice.

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I have not denied that internet outages occur. Pretty infrequently in my experience. As I said, power outages occur too.

The bit in bold is, in fact, true, whether you care to believe it or not. It’s a prediction, not a desire on my part.

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It’s just my prediction, Hugh. Other views are available.

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Pretty sure statements using the words "have long been sympathetic" isn’t a prediction - predictions would use the future tense…

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Yeah tbf to VM my old flat i didn't have issues with their broadband just their prices, but this flat funny thing is vm is in the houses either side but not in the block, it's only 5 flats so would have been a relatively easy job.
Thankfully City fibre laid their cabling down last year and last month providers started installing, got a decent deal with Digital home £35p/m for 900mbs up and down although i'm averaging 845mbs both ways and that's for 24 months with a no price rise promise during the contract.

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No more difficulty than that you have recognising the point I actually made. If you make a prediction and it doesn’t happen you don’t alter your prediction - it’s just wrong.

So now we are conflating two issues - the licence fee and digital terrestrial television. Neither of which would necessarily end linear.

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I’m really not sure what you are getting at. If there is a long held view held by an influential group of people, that can influence the future. To express a view on how that may come about is a prediction.

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You're kidding yourself on if you think in the middle of a recession, with spiraling inflation, lowering living standards a political party is going to make television less affordable and less accessible.

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And what is your prediction for when inflation is under control and Britain is fully functioning again after Covid and Brexit?

It’s only 2022, Mr jfman, as I keep having to remind you.

You talk about the future as if it were the present.

Anyway, let’s move on. Once again you are taking us round your circular arguments.

Looking forward to the launch of ITVX, which will draw a lot more people in than to the ITV Hub, I suspect. If they carry lots of new originals which won’t be shown on ITV for months or even at all, they could attract a whole new audience.

If successful, I would not be surprised to see the Beeb doing something similar with their I-Player.

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:rofl:

They might revisit the subject matter however it'll have pushed back any significant changes by years. If not a decade.

On the contrary, OB. I take a considered view, grounded in economics, as to how the provision of television to end users may evolve in the coming decades.

OB you will never move on from your obsession.

I would be.

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It needs to be a combination - a subscription based service with a free ad version. The government could decide to fund some public service programmes that other channels don’t offer, but this should be strictly limited to what was necessary.

All the other solutions require compulsory payments whether you use BBC services or not. As such, this is unacceptable to a growing number of people.

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Do you have a source that it's unacceptable to a growing number of people?

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If only YouGov had a poll.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/media/tr...-bbc-be-funded

Turns out the licence fee is seeing a rebound in support. With the eye watering cost of living crisis I can only see this increasing in the short to medium term as streamers start to price gouge their base.

I hope those debt laden streamers have hedged against the interest rate rises to come. :D

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"Young people cut back on video streaming services"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62057950

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More info here
https://www.kantar.com/inspiration/t...reaming-market

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Piracy is probably part of it, the 2 free apps I use are CinemaHD and sometimes Kodi which is harder to use and keep maintained but I also pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime and considering Disney+ when Tesco do a super cheap offer again.

Edit...

Looks like I'll be signing up to Disney+ via Tesco Clubcard vouchers as they now have a £6 of vouchers offer for 3 months of membership, so basically free for someone with vouchers.

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Another million subscribers gone. Wait til the cost of living crisis really starts to hit home.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62226912

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To add to it they're testing a charge for watching out of home too, they sure seem to be doing their best to drive customers away.

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If that happens, I won’t be continuing my subscription

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You thought they would have started to heed the warning signs.

Obviously not it seems.

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The problem is they are now a business looking for a sustainable business model now all that cheap Silicon Valley and vulture capital debt is drying up. The current one with the current levels of debt is, as a few have been saying on here for a number of years, unsustainable.

20 billion dollars is a lot of $8s a month when your service is disposable.

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Being tested in USA atm but what Netflix do over there tends to happen here too https://thestreamable.com/uk/news/ne...side-your-home

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So basically even if you have the Premium subscription and go for a holiday in a cottage for example you can’t login with your Netflix account on a Smart TV in the home/hotel room what a complete joke.

How many parents login there accounts for there kids to watch at grandparents houses , there will be lots of people not to happy with this.

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Also what about if you are in the same house using different internet connections.

This will just lose them more customers

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Sales are vanity, profits are sanity, cash is king.

Netflix is the streaming market leader so if it can't increase sales then it needs to cut costs or increase prices or do both to be viable.

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Amazon have announced the cost of a Prime subscription will rise from £7.99 a month to £8.99 or annually from £79 to £95 from 15th September.

The first increase since 2014.

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Unsurprising given that everything else is going up l would say.

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May see me cancel now as I rarely use Prime and can manage without the free next day delivery.

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Some countries had a 43% increase so 20% increase for the UK since 2014 isn't bad.

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I am a student and when that runs out hopefully I will be a student again hahaha

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Still good value

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It's excellent value especially when you consider you get unlimited photo cloud storage without losing quality.

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For our household it is.

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Wonder if this means that the HBO-Sky deal will be renewed post 2025?

https://www.ft.com/content/3a360d69-...c-265c253230d1

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Personally I don't think they will

They still planning to launch the combined streamer in new markets later in 2024 although it might be accelerated.
https://tbivision.com/2022/08/05/wbd...ategy-dc-plan/

I read Warner Bros Discovery's content will be licenced to third-parties increasingly if it is not performing optimally on the combined streamer.

Exclusivity of content isn't the priority.

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From that article:
A little confusing as WBD could do it from 2025 in the UK.