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Media Boy UK 23-07-2019 15:18

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by newapollo (Post 36003826)
No exact date, just the month of September.

Thanks for info.

SonicMaster 23-07-2019 15:27

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Sony Movies Classic, which debuts in January 2020, will draw from the library of SPE’s iconic film studio Columbia Pictures.
i.e. It will launch as Sony Movies Christmas in September then become Sony Movies Classic in January.

cheekyangus 23-07-2019 15:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36003819)
Sony Pictures Television (SPT) is to rebrand its free-to-air film and entertainment channels in the UK under one cohesive Sony-branded portfolio.

Sony Movie Channel will become Sony Movies

Movies4Men will become Sony Movies Action

True Movies will become Sony Movies Classic

True Entertainment will become Sony Channel

All of the channels will be available on Freeview, Freesat, Sky and Virgin Media with new cinematic design alongside a slate of new content.

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/inter...141414.article

Long time coming, aligning most of their channels under one brand (what with the Pop channels thankfully keeping their own branding).

Sounds like Sony Movies Classic will have the biggest change in content, seemingly dumping the TV Movies, except for at Christmas, for its back catalogue of films that got a theatrical release.

Media Boy UK 23-07-2019 20:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36003830)
Long time coming, aligning most of their channels under one brand (what with the Pop channels thankfully keeping their own branding).

Sounds like Sony Movies Classic will have the biggest change in content, seemingly dumping the TV Movies, except for at Christmas, for its back catalogue of films that got a theatrical release.

I can see SONY axing the POP brand soon.

-POP > SONY Kids
-Pop Max (Or whatever they called it this year) > SONY Kids 2
-Tiny Pop > SONY Kids Jr.

---------- Post added at 20:56 ---------- Previous post was at 20:10 ----------

Reports say that NOW 80s will rebrand as NOW Christmas from the 20th November to 26th December 2019.

https://www.skymedia.co.uk/opportuni...hristmas-2019/

vincerooney 23-07-2019 21:57

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Anyone know if the whole "email CEO and get a phone call from retentions" is still an effective way to get into touch with retentions?

My friend doesn't like speaking on the phone and he's been a customer for 8 years now, poor tv package, outdated tivo and hub so i was trying to see what he could get. they usually call me fairly quick when i email the ceo but having no joy here.

To keep this post on topic too....any idea of any other apps coming to tivo such as wwe network? i'm really liking the amazon prime app. super handy with the search facilitiy.

Legendkiller2k 23-07-2019 23:43

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36003862)
I can see SONY axing the POP brand soon.

-POP > SONY Kids
-Pop Max (Or whatever they called it this year) > SONY Kids 2
-Tiny Pop > SONY Kids Jr.

---------- Post added at 20:56 ---------- Previous post was at 20:10 ----------

Reports say that NOW 80s will rebrand as NOW Christmas from the 20th November to 26th December 2019.

https://www.skymedia.co.uk/opportuni...hristmas-2019/

Not sure as POP is a well known brand.

OLD BOY 24-07-2019 09:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36003819)
Sony Pictures Television (SPT) is to rebrand its free-to-air film and entertainment channels in the UK under one cohesive Sony-branded portfolio.

Sony Movie Channel will become Sony Movies

Movies4Men will become Sony Movies Action

True Movies will become Sony Movies Classic

True Entertainment will become Sony Channel

All of the channels will be available on Freeview, Freesat, Sky and Virgin Media with new cinematic design alongside a slate of new content.

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/inter...141414.article

It's a shame that all the Sony channels are in SD. We would watch some of the stuff on these channels if they broadcast in HD.

Ultimate.Conj 24-07-2019 09:16

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003893)
It's a shame that all the Sony channels are in SD. We would watch some of the stuff on these channels if they broadcast in HD.

That's true, specially as Sony are an advacate for trying to get the best picture quality possible.

SD has no place in my house anymore lol

OLD BOY 24-07-2019 09:19

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 36003896)
That's true, specially as Sony are an advacate for trying to get the best picture quality possible.

SD has no place in my house anymore lol

Nor here. The picture is not the best on a large screen.

1andrew1 24-07-2019 09:44

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 36003896)
That's true, specially as Sony are an advacate for trying to get the best picture quality possible.

SD has no place in my house anymore lol

Yes, there seems to be a bit of a tension between their TV arm aiming to sell high-end TVs and their broadcasting arm with its FTV channels. Maybe they will have HD options on some platforms come the Autumn.

Ultimate.Conj 24-07-2019 10:01

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36003899)
Nor here. The picture is not the best on a large screen.

Sony have a large catalogue of films they re-mastered from SD to HD and Blu-Ray, so surprising their channels are SD only really.

Hopefully they will make the jump to HD soon ;)

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36003904)
Yes, there seems to be a bit of a tension between their TV arm aiming to sell high-end TVs and their broadcasting arm with its FTV channels. Maybe they will have HD options on some platforms come the Autumn.

Hey Andrew,
Sorry I didn't see your message as my new one pushed to a new page.

This is interesting and I didn't know about this. Thanks for the info :)

cheekyangus 24-07-2019 10:23

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36003904)
Yes, there seems to be a bit of a tension between their TV arm aiming to sell high-end TVs and their broadcasting arm with its FTV channels. Maybe they will have HD options on some platforms come the Autumn.

Sony have been criticised for years for not making better use of the possible synergies between their different divisions. Many assume that big companies with lots of divisions in multiple industries talk to each other. Often they don't, Sony is far from the only one where this happens.

The PlayStation division is by far their biggest money maker these days, most of the others, I believe I read, don't exactly rake it in these days.

1andrew1 24-07-2019 13:44

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36003912)
Sony have been criticised for years for not making better use of the possible synergies between their different divisions. Many assume that big companies with lots of divisions in multiple industries talk to each other. Often they don't, Sony is far from the only one where this happens.

The PlayStation division is by far their biggest money maker these days, most of the others, I believe I read, don't exactly rake it in these days.

I think Sony have culled most of their loss-making portfolio (eg laptops) and expanded in other areas like music publishing where they are the largest in the world. And they have some highly-successful business to business areas that people wouldn't usually come across.

SonicMaster 24-07-2019 14:33

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The latest July Channel Guide PDF has 'Virgin Media Previews HD' on channel 100, but this wasn't HD last time I looked so maybe that's coming soon?

It also has Lifetime+1 on 225 which has now closed and needs Prime Video on 228 added.

OLD BOY 25-07-2019 09:30

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Does anyone know when the Amazon UHD search fix is likely to be implemented? I can't wait to bookmark my Prime watchlist but cannot do so until this glitch is sorted out.

BenMcr 25-07-2019 09:40

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004030)
Does anyone know when the Amazon UHD search fix is likely to be implemented? I can't wait to bookmark my Prime watchlist but cannot do so until this glitch is sorted out.

It should show up in Search results, even if it's not specifically listed in the Search and Discover app list.

For instance, searching for Good Omens will work.

Have you rebooted your V6 since the app appeared?

MyBraiNz 25-07-2019 09:43

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36003875)
To keep this post on topic too....any idea of any other apps coming to tivo such as wwe network? i'm really liking the amazon prime app. super handy with the search facilitiy.

Be nice to have this especially with WWE going to BTSports from January 2020, Finally Raw and Smackdown in HD without having to pay extra for the HD :) Lets hope WWE start doing 4K sometime in the future aswell :p:

Reason i bought a FireTV Stick was for the Network but if Virgin can bag the Network app (maybe possible after WWE part ways with Sky) then it would be WWE all in one place for me :D

ITV 4 got AEW so i hear.. future looking good for wrestling fans :)

markl9 25-07-2019 10:18

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004030)
Does anyone know when the Amazon UHD search fix is likely to be implemented? I can't wait to bookmark my Prime watchlist but cannot do so until this glitch is sorted out.

Out of curiosity what do you mean by bookmark my Prime watchlist and more to the point how do you do it?

OLD BOY 25-07-2019 11:25

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Originally Posted by markl9 (Post 36004035)
Out of curiosity what do you mean by bookmark my Prime watchlist and more to the point how do you do it?

On the Home menu, select 'Search and Discover' and bring up the programme you want to see. Select it and go down to 'Episodes' Select the first programme in the series and you will see an option to bookmark it. You will be asked whether you just want to bookmark that one programme or the whole series. Select whichever is appropriate and it will then appear in 'My Shows'.

The good thing is, it doesn't take up any of your recording space.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36004031)
It should show up in Search results, even if it's not specifically listed in the Search and Discover app list.

For instance, searching for Good Omens will work.

Have you rebooted your V6 since the app appeared?

It doesn't do that on the Search & Discover menu; it only brings up the HD version.

Media Boy UK 25-07-2019 11:45

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
We have been told that "SKY could be looking into VR content from 2020."

markl9 25-07-2019 11:48

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004046)
On the Home menu, select 'Search and Discover' and bring up the programme you want to see. Select it and go down to 'Episodes' Select the first programme in the series and you will see an option to bookmark it. You will be asked whether you just want to bookmark that one programme or the whole series. Select whichever is appropriate and it will then appear in 'My Shows'.

Great thanks for that, that's going to be really useful.

BenMcr 25-07-2019 11:50

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004046)
It doesn't do that on the Search & Discover menu; it only brings up the HD version.

Ah right, sorry I thought you meant it wouldn't show up at all.

It's likely a side effect of the way Amazon split their content for HD and UHD. Unlike Netflix where it's all the same title.

cheekyangus 25-07-2019 12:19

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36004051)
We have been told that "SKY could be looking into VR content from 2020."

They could retrofit their content from when they ventured into 3D. Obviously there would be no head movement, but it is a feature of VR.

Mad Max 25-07-2019 12:59

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by MyBraiNz (Post 36004032)
Be nice to have this especially with WWE going to BTSports from January 2020, Finally Raw and Smackdown in HD without having to pay extra for the HD :) Lets hope WWE start doing 4K sometime in the future aswell :p:

Reason i bought a FireTV Stick was for the Network but if Virgin can bag the Network app (maybe possible after WWE part ways with Sky) then it would be WWE all in one place for me :D

ITV 4 got AEW so i hear.. future looking good for wrestling fans :)

Shouldn't this be on the comedy channel...........:D;)

Joedm45 25-07-2019 13:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004046)
On the Home menu, select 'Search and Discover' and bring up the programme you want to see. Select it and go down to 'Episodes' Select the first programme in the series and you will see an option to bookmark it. You will be asked whether you just want to bookmark that one programme or the whole series. Select whichever is appropriate and it will then appear in 'My Shows'.

The good thing is, it doesn't take up any of your recording space.

---------- Post added at 11:25 ---------- Previous post was at 11:23 ----------



It doesn't do that on the Search & Discover menu; it only brings up the HD version.

Even quicker when you press Home then 4 ;)

MyBraiNz 25-07-2019 13:48

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36004061)
Shouldn't this be on the comedy channel...........:D;)

Haha yea, but i'm not going down that road about which category WWE comes under, for me its just a bad habit for many years now :)

Looking forward to AEW though, at least it isnt PG :D

fox35 25-07-2019 15:48

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Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 36004063)
Even quicker when you press Home then 4 ;)

..or just press the "magnifying glass" symbol on the remote! ;)

newapollo 25-07-2019 19:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36003822)
Any date on when this will happen?

Date now confirmed by Sky Media site

On Tuesday 10th September, SPT’s rebranded free-to-air portfolio will launch with Sony Channel, Sony Movies, Sony Movies Action and Sony Movies Christmas, followed by the launch of Sony Movies Classic in January 2020. All channels will be available on Freeview, Freesat, Sky and Virgin Media with a new modern and cinematic design alongside an exciting slate of new content.

At launch, the free-to-air movie channels will feature a raft of SPE titles including Bad Boys, Elysium, Rambo, S.W.A.T: Under Siege, Hitch, Stepmom, Matilda, Just Go With It, Groundhog Day and Christmas With The Kranks.

Sony Movies Classic, which debuts in January 2020, will draw from Sony Pictures’ storied and extensive Columbia Pictures movie library showcasing important and iconic titles from the history of movie making including Kramer vs Kramer, Gandhi, Oliver! and more.

Sony Channel will also aim to capture the love of great classic drama and entertainment with a warm and familiar mix of scripted series, nostalgia and popular gameshows powered by the best of Sony’s library. Titles include Charlie’s Angels, Starsky & Hutch, TJ Hooker and classic Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.

Media Boy UK 25-07-2019 20:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Forum Box is reporting that Virgin Media UK is set to axe Sky Cinema SD Channels in the coming weeks.

No news on what may happen to Sky Cinema Premiere +1.

vincerooney 25-07-2019 21:06

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by MyBraiNz (Post 36004067)
Haha yea, but i'm not going down that road about which category WWE comes under, for me its just a bad habit for many years now :)

Looking forward to AEW though, at least it isnt PG :D

Its on TNT so whilst it won't be PG (i dont think) they've promised there isn't going to be any blood, chair shots or x rated stuff. For example that cody chair shot is definitely not going to happen.

I think the most you'll get is the odd middle finger every so often.

I do think VM should have got the wwe network. Maybe it'll be coming soon with the revamped app?

Media Boy UK 25-07-2019 21:57

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36004137)
Its on TNT so whilst it won't be PG (i dont think) they've promised there isn't going to be any blood, chair shots or x rated stuff. For example that cody chair shot is definitely not going to happen.

I think the most you'll get is the odd middle finger every so often.

I do think VM should have got the wwe network. Maybe it'll be coming soon with the revamped app?

When do the AEW on TNT start?

I do not know what has happen to AEW on ITV4.

Legendkiller2k 25-07-2019 23:50

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36004142)
When do the AEW on TNT start?

I do not know what has happen to AEW on ITV4.

I believe September not too sure.
ATM AEW is only doing ppvs which have been on ITV Box office, once the weekly show starts that's when ITV4 will air AEW and ITV Box office the ppvs.
BT want WWE Network on their youview boxes too.

vincerooney 26-07-2019 11:44

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36004155)
I believe September not too sure.
ATM AEW is only doing ppvs which have been on ITV Box office, once the weekly show starts that's when ITV4 will air AEW and ITV Box office the ppvs.
BT want WWE Network on their youview boxes too.

Oh dear i hope WWE haven';t done a canadian like deal where we have to get the network direct from BT and have less choice etc?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36004142)
When do the AEW on TNT start?

I do not know what has happen to AEW on ITV4.

October 2nd on TNT its been announced. Unsure if it'll be live on ITV 4 or next day etc as they've gone quiet

Legendkiller2k 26-07-2019 13:45

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36004180)
Oh dear i hope WWE haven';t done a canadian like deal where we have to get the network direct from BT and have less choice etc?



October 2nd on TNT its been announced. Unsure if it'll be live on ITV 4 or next day etc as they've gone quiet

Very unlikely Vince chances are BT just want the app on their Youview box but WWE Network will still be available as it is now.

Ddonald2016 27-07-2019 08:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
They say the new sky UHD deal starts in new year

“ forthcoming comedy Brassic, starring Michelle Keegan“

But that is starting this year

So very confused

Inactive Digital 27-07-2019 08:37

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 36004269)
They say the new sky UHD deal starts in new year

“ forthcoming comedy Brassic, starring Michelle Keegan“

But that is starting this year

So very confused

I took it that Brassic was an example of some of the on demand UHD content that will be available next year (and it would still be available in HD this year). Basically, they've used the press release to plug an upcoming series.

As part of the extended deal, Virgin customers are set to enjoy new Ultra HD programming and additional video-on-demand content from Sky, commencing next year. This will include Sky Cinema Original films and live sports in UHD, as well as unmissable Sky original drama on-demand, including shows such as Jamestown and the upcoming comedy Brassic starring Michelle Keegan.

Ddonald2016 27-07-2019 08:47

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Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36004272)
I took it that Brassic was an example of some of the on demand UHD content that will be available next year (and it would still be available in HD this year). Basically, they've used the press release to plug an upcoming series.

As part of the extended deal, Virgin customers are set to enjoy new Ultra HD programming and additional video-on-demand content from Sky, commencing next year. This will include Sky Cinema Original films and live sports in UHD, as well as unmissable Sky original drama on-demand, including shows such as Jamestown and the upcoming comedy Brassic starring Michelle Keegan.

Thanks for explaining very misleading from the m

OLD BOY 27-07-2019 09:26

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I would like to know what 'delving deeper' into their programme library means. Does it mean just more material that we have had access to in the past such as Strikeback or does it mean material available from Now TV such as SA material?

It surely must be a possibility, given the BT deal. That would be Virgin's equivalent. I hope that is the case, but nothing has been announced apart from what was in that original BT carriage deal press release.

muppetman11 27-07-2019 09:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Sky Atlantic content won't be part of the deal if it was Virgin would have received access to the linear channel especially now the two have the adsmart deal.

denphone 27-07-2019 09:58

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36004277)
Sky Atlantic content won't be part of the deal if it was Virgin would have received access to the linear channel especially now the two have the adsmart deal.

Exactly MM.

OLD BOY 27-07-2019 10:09

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36004277)
Sky Atlantic content won't be part of the deal if it was Virgin would have received access to the linear channel especially now the two have the adsmart deal.

Yes, you might be right.

However, if not, Sky would still be able to boast that the Sky Atlantic channel was available exclusively on Sky and Now TV while at the same time allowing VM to pick up the same content as BT (through Now TV) on their on demand system.

I read on DS that the Sky/BT deal may not be implemented in time for the football season and may not do so until 2020. If that is the case (and I have to say that I have no independent evidence of this) it may explain why both companies are being cagey about the content that we will get on demand, because they may want to implement these arrangements on BT and VM at the same time.

As usual, I guess we will just have to wait and see.

jfman 27-07-2019 10:12

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36004277)
Sky Atlantic content won't be part of the deal if it was Virgin would have received access to the linear channel especially now the two have the adsmart deal.

If it was part of the deal they’d have actually said that.

Virgin customers will, for the VERY FIRST TIME, have access to Sky Atlantic content including THE HIGHEST RATING PROGRAMME OF ALL TIME ON IMDB - Chernobyl...

It wouldn't be “delving deeper into back catalogues” if it was SA content.

denphone 27-07-2019 10:15

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004280)
Yes, you might be right.

He is right end of...

OLD BOY 27-07-2019 10:19

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36004281)
If it was part of the deal they’d have actually said that.

Virgin customers will, for the VERY FIRST TIME, have access to Sky Atlantic content including THE HIGHEST RATING PROGRAMME OF ALL TIME ON IMDB - Chernobyl...

It wouldn't be “delving deeper into back catalogues” if it was SA content.

Unless Sky don't wish this to be revealed at this stage.

jfman 27-07-2019 10:26

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004283)
Unless Sky don't wish this to be revealed at this stage.

Why though? If it’s to make Sky more appealing there’s an easier way to achieve that: Not sell SA content to Virgin.

vincerooney 27-07-2019 12:15

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36004284)
Why though? If it’s to make Sky more appealing there’s an easier way to achieve that: Not sell SA content to Virgin.

Sky have openly admitted they need more eyes on sky Atlantic for advert revenue etc. I’d imagine virgin media will get the now tv app. But if you were sky would you announce it yet or instead wait until next year then the deal kicks in? More time to use the precious “sky exclusive” tag and try to entice virgin media customers over in the next 5+ months

jfman 27-07-2019 13:21

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36004286)
Sky have openly admitted they need more eyes on sky Atlantic for advert revenue etc. I’d imagine virgin media will get the now tv app. But if you were sky would you announce it yet or instead wait until next year then the deal kicks in? More time to use the precious “sky exclusive” tag and try to entice virgin media customers over in the next 5+ months

I’m not being deliberately difficult but can you link me to Sky saying that?

muppetman11 27-07-2019 13:25

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36004286)
Sky have openly admitted they need more eyes on sky Atlantic for advert revenue etc. I’d imagine virgin media will get the now tv app. But if you were sky would you announce it yet or instead wait until next year then the deal kicks in? More time to use the precious “sky exclusive” tag and try to entice virgin media customers over in the next 5+ months

The very fact that Sky and Virgin have just renewed it's deal for Sky's portfolio of linear channels and On Demand suggests Now TV is very unlikely to appear. As jfman has pointed out had Virgin struck a deal for Sky Atlantic it would have dominated the headline and press release.

Legendkiller2k 27-07-2019 14:20

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SKY Atlantic is not arriving on VM in any shape or form with this new agreement.

Dave42 27-07-2019 14:21

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36004292)
The very fact that Sky and Virgin have just renewed it's deal for Sky's portfolio of linear channels and On Demand suggests Now TV is very unlikely to appear. As jfman has pointed out had Virgin struck a deal for Sky Atlantic it would have dominated the headline and press release.

exactly don't know why people cant except we not getting SA ever

Mad Max 27-07-2019 17:46

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36004307)
exactly don't know why people cant except we not getting SA ever


You cannot say that we will never get Atlantic, no one knows what will happen in the future!

Legendkiller2k 27-07-2019 18:36

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36004320)
You cannot say that we will never get Atlantic, no one knows what will happen in the future!

I think eventually VM will get it maybe in 3 years time by then knowing SKY they'll launch a new channel called SKYHBO
oops said to much you didn't see that ;)

jfman 27-07-2019 18:46

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Had you actually said too much you’d have edited it out the post for fear of your employer taking action.

There’s nothing worse on an internet forum than someone pretending to be “in the know” when they obviously aren’t.

cheekyangus 27-07-2019 18:50

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36004330)
I think eventually VM will get it maybe in 3 years time by then knowing SKY they'll launch a new channel called SKYHBO
oops said to much you didn't see that ;)

I can't see that happening. WarnerMedia will likely launch HBO Max outside the US soon enough and the value of a 3rd Party running a channel on their behalf won't be particularly appealing if they want to make a success of HBO Max.

vincerooney 27-07-2019 18:59

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36004291)
I’m not being deliberately difficult but can you link me to Sky saying that?

I think it was in the original launch specificiation and nothing has really changed except Now tv a cheaper way to get Sky. Sky and VM tweet people who are trying to find out how to get the channel they are quickly saying "only through sky or now tv". Its in pretty much every google search for sky atlantic.

So in principle if the only way you can get sky atlantic is through Sky or Now tv you wouldnt announce thats going to change until launch day surely?

I dont think VM will get the channel mind you but i think they may get the Now tv app

denphone 27-07-2019 19:16

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36004338)
I think it was in the original launch specificiation and nothing has really changed except Now tv a cheaper way to get Sky. Sky and VM tweet people who are trying to find out how to get the channel they are quickly saying "only through sky or now tv". Its in pretty much every google search for sky atlantic.

So in principle if the only way you can get sky atlantic is through Sky or Now tv you wouldnt announce thats going to change until launch day surely?

I dont think VM will get the channel mind you but i think they may get the Now tv app

l don't think they will get neither..

OLD BOY 27-07-2019 19:55

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36004286)
Sky have openly admitted they need more eyes on sky Atlantic for advert revenue etc. I’d imagine virgin media will get the now tv app. But if you were sky would you announce it yet or instead wait until next year then the deal kicks in? More time to use the precious “sky exclusive” tag and try to entice virgin media customers over in the next 5+ months

I agree with most of that, Vince. But I don't think Virgin will go down the Now TV route, to be honest. They would almost certainly insist that the Now TV on demand content be made available on Virgin's own on demand system.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36004292)
The very fact that Sky and Virgin have just renewed it's deal for Sky's portfolio of linear channels and On Demand suggests Now TV is very unlikely to appear. As jfman has pointed out had Virgin struck a deal for Sky Atlantic it would have dominated the headline and press release.

Unless Sky made that a condition within the contract agreed.

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36004306)
SKY Atlantic is not arriving on VM in any shape or form with this new agreement.

No-one has suggested that we will get the channel since the announcement about the new deal has been agreed.

The argument is about whether we will get the on demand content that will be available to BT.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36004307)
exactly don't know why people cant except we not getting SA ever

I think we have all acknowledged that we are not getting the scheduled channel for the foreseeable future.

The channel is most likely to go under anyway with the launch of new streaming services.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36004339)
l don't think they will get neither..

Is that a double negative? :D:D

You are clearly hedging your bets!

denphone 27-07-2019 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004341)
You are clearly hedging your bets!

Not at all but you knew that anyway...

cheekyangus 27-07-2019 20:14

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
The thing that most stood out in that Sky/VM Press Release was the ambiguity of it.

"Sky Sports and Sky Cinema in HD so customers can continue to enjoy the latest movies and best live sport action"

Given VM already have them in HD what's the point in mentioning this? Given there is evidence of Sky Cinema going HD-only (jj20x on Forum Box found an info screen)...maybe this means both are going HD-only.

"Sky’s Entertainment channels including Sky One, Sky Witness and more, in HD".

Given there aren't many Sky Entertainment channels and they basically mentioned half of them, why didn't they just mention them all. And again since they are in HD on VM already, what is the point of mentioning them? At the least my interpretation, reading through the ambiguity, is the existing HD Sky Basics are going HD-only.

Press Releases tend to be about mentioning what is new, not about saying "we've got the same services still". And they tend to be carefully worded.

(https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...d-the-industry)

OLD BOY 27-07-2019 20:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36004353)
The thing that most stood out in that Sky/VM Press Release was the ambiguity of it.

"Sky Sports and Sky Cinema in HD so customers can continue to enjoy the latest movies and best live sport action"

Given VM already have them in HD what's the point in mentioning this? Given there is evidence of Sky Cinema going HD-only (jj20x on Forum Box found a info screen)...maybe this means both are going HD-only.

"Sky’s Entertainment channels including Sky One, Sky Witness and more, in HD".

Given there aren't many Sky Entertainment channels and they basically mentioned half of them, why didn't they just mention them all. And again since they are in HD on VM already, what is the point of mentioning them? At the least my interpretation, reading through the ambiguity, is the existing HD Sky Basics are going HD-only.

Press Releases tend to be about mentioning what is new, not about saying "we've got the same services still". And they tend to be carefully worded.

(https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...d-the-industry)

There are good reasons for wondering whether programmes formerly aired on SA might be available to Virgin Media on demand, but there is nothing firm anyone can point to at the present time. I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing the ambiguity of the press release. Something here is being hidden, I think.

Dave42 27-07-2019 20:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004354)
There are good reasons for wondering whether programmes formerly aired on SA might be available to Virgin Media on demand, but there is nothing firm anyone can point to at the present time. I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing the ambiguity of the press release. Something here is being hidden, I think.

why would sky allow VM to have SA on demand and withhold the linear channel don't make no sence OB it be either both or none and it none we getting

jfman 27-07-2019 21:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36004362)
why would sky allow VM to have SA on demand and withhold the linear channel don't make no sence OB it be either both or none and it none we getting

It all comes back to the magic question of why Virgin, who pay Sky hundreds of millions of pound per year, would sign a deal for key content they couldn’t even announce? How long is this delay? 3 months? 6?

Considering Sky aren’t particularly being aggressive in their pursuit of cable customers as it is (the current new customer offers are quite tame) what’s the value added for Sky in doing this?

First it was May, then it was the end of Game of Thrones, now it’s when Now TV joins BT. Then it’ll be some other magical stumbling block.

vincerooney 27-07-2019 22:31

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36004363)
It all comes back to the magic question of why Virgin, who pay Sky hundreds of millions of pound per year, would sign a deal for key content they couldn’t even announce? How long is this delay? 3 months? 6?

Considering Sky aren’t particularly being aggressive in their pursuit of cable customers as it is (the current new customer offers are quite tame) what’s the value added for Sky in doing this?

First it was May, then it was the end of Game of Thrones, now it’s when Now TV joins BT. Then it’ll be some other magical stumbling block.

Even if Sky can coax 1 customer from virgin media between now and the end of the year based on sky offering sky atlantic thats still more customers.

Why say "you're getting sky atlantic content in january via...." why lose your attraction before you need to reveal your hand in january?

I'm not saying its going to happen. But if the contract doesnt start till 2020 why let customers know they're getting your golden goose until you need to?

jfman 27-07-2019 22:45

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Virgin customers = 4 million.

Let’s call it 20p per subscriber per month - £800 000 a month or £4.8m for July to December. That’s a very expensive customer gained. They’d need tens of thousands to justify the temporary strategy and there’s no evidence for it.

You’re introducing “ifs” and further speculative variables that are improbable, to justify an internet myth that there’s no evidence for.

Why lose your star attraction at all?

Legendkiller2k 27-07-2019 23:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36004336)
I can't see that happening. WarnerMedia will likely launch HBO Max outside the US soon enough and the value of a 3rd Party running a channel on their behalf won't be particularly appealing if they want to make a success of HBO Max.

I was being humourous lol, had i that kind of information i wouldn't post it on a forum lol.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004341)
I agree with most of that, Vince. But I don't think Virgin will go down the Now TV route, to be honest. They would almost certainly insist that the Now TV on demand content be made available on Virgin's own on demand system.

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Unless Sky made that a condition within the contract agreed.

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No-one has suggested that we will get the channel since the announcement about the new deal has been agreed.

The argument is about whether we will get the on demand content that will be available to BT.

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I think we have all acknowledged that we are not getting the scheduled channel for the foreseeable future.

The channel is most likely to go under anyway with the launch of new streaming services.

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Is that a double negative? :D:D

You are clearly hedging your bets!

The only way VM TV customers will get any SKY Atlantic content of any kind including on demand would be via a subscription of nowtv via a compatable device aka roku.
Even BTs agreement is going to be delivered via Nowtv on the BT Youview boxes but BT customers will be able to record Nowtv channels.
One does wonder if EE and Plusnet tv customers might get the same service further down the line.

jfman 27-07-2019 23:35

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
You’ve missed “subscribing to Sky”.

OLD BOY 27-07-2019 23:41

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36004362)
why would sky allow VM to have SA on demand and withhold the linear channel don't make no sence OB it be either both or none and it none we getting

They've done it for BT, Dave, so it's not that much of a stretch.

jfman 27-07-2019 23:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004374)
They've done it for BT, Dave, so it's not that much of a stretch.

They haven’t though.

BT subscribers are, some day, getting Now TV as an optional add on. Why would Virgin essentially allow Sky to retail Now TV on its platform when it’d devalue Virgin’s own top packages? The two situations aren’t comparable.

BT subscribers are getting something they don’t have at present.
Virgin customers would be given an alternative way to purchase Sky’s basic (and premium) channels than from Virgin themselves.

If Virgin were going down that route why enter this carriage agreement at all?

OLD BOY 27-07-2019 23:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36004363)
It all comes back to the magic question of why Virgin, who pay Sky hundreds of millions of pound per year, would sign a deal for key content they couldn’t even announce? How long is this delay? 3 months? 6?

Considering Sky aren’t particularly being aggressive in their pursuit of cable customers as it is (the current new customer offers are quite tame) what’s the value added for Sky in doing this?

First it was May, then it was the end of Game of Thrones, now it’s when Now TV joins BT. Then it’ll be some other magical stumbling block.

The date for that announcement may be delayed. Or maybe Sky just don't want it publicly announced. It could be that the BT deal being delayed is the cause of the hiatus, and that may continue until the New Year. Who knows?

As has been explained previously, Sky want to monetise their content. A very economic argument!

I don't regard the BT deal as being a stumbling block! Where ARE you coming from, you antagoniser, you!

jfman 28-07-2019 00:06

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
I agree Sky want to monetise their content but it’s flawed to assume that doing so involves putting it out there on a platform neutral basis.

If they lost tens of thousands of subscribers in an already challenging market to, for example, Virgin’s top package right now because it’s own platform had no unique selling point it’d massively backfire.

OLD BOY 28-07-2019 00:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36004375)
They haven’t though.

BT subscribers are, some day, getting Now TV as an optional add on. Why would Virgin essentially allow Sky to retail Now TV on its platform when it’d devalue Virgin’s own top packages? The two situations aren’t comparable.

BT subscribers are getting something they don’t have at present.
Virgin customers would be given an alternative way to purchase Sky’s basic (and premium) channels than from Virgin themselves.

If Virgin were going down that route why enter this carriage agreement at all?

I am not of the view that Now TV will be on the VM platform.

However, the programmes from that channel MAY eventually be on our on demand system.

On the other hand, they may not! :p:

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36004375)
They haven’t though.

BT subscribers are, some day, getting Now TV as an optional add on. Why would Virgin essentially allow Sky to retail Now TV on its platform when it’d devalue Virgin’s own top packages? The two situations aren’t comparable.

BT subscribers are getting something they don’t have at present.
Virgin customers would be given an alternative way to purchase Sky’s basic (and premium) channels than from Virgin themselves.

If Virgin were going down that route why enter this carriage agreement at all?

Well not yet, but it was supposed to happen before the next football seasonThat seems to have been delayed for technical reasons, but they will get it.

I am sure that if Virgin could resolve the impasse regarding SA by getting the on demand content, that would be sufficient..

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36004377)
I agree Sky want to monetise their content but it’s flawed to assume that doing so involves putting it out there on a platform neutral basis.

If they lost tens of thousands of subscribers in an already challenging market to, for example, Virgin’s top package right now because it’s own platform had no unique selling point it’d massively backfire.

Maybe Sky has calculated that they will get more from being on the VM platform.

You're the magic economist, you tell us!

vincerooney 28-07-2019 01:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36004375)
They haven’t though.

BT subscribers are, some day, getting Now TV as an optional add on. Why would Virgin essentially allow Sky to retail Now TV on its platform when it’d devalue Virgin’s own top packages? The two situations aren’t comparable.

BT subscribers are getting something they don’t have at present.
Virgin customers would be given an alternative way to purchase Sky’s basic (and premium) channels than from Virgin themselves.

If Virgin were going down that route why enter this carriage agreement at all?

It would be like how virgin media has netflix and amazon prime apps though which they don't gain money from? its literally being able to brag that customers have access to all content via V6 tivo box.

jfman 28-07-2019 02:52

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36004384)
It would be like how virgin media has netflix and amazon prime apps though which they don't gain money from? its literally being able to brag that customers have access to all content via V6 tivo box.

Well no, Virgin aren’t trying to sell packages themselves with much of the same content as Prime or Netflix in it.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004378)
Maybe Sky has calculated that they will get more from being on the VM platform.

You're the magic economist, you tell us!

If Sky did calculate that then it’d be on Virgin right now. Not in three months or six months after the renewal of a major carriage deal.

It’s been eight years. I don’t see how the next three or six months are of any strategic significance to the extent some hush hush agreement is in place between the two.

OLD BOY 28-07-2019 10:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36004388)
Well no, Virgin aren’t trying to sell packages themselves with much of the same content as Prime or Netflix in it.

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If Sky did calculate that then it’d be on Virgin right now. Not in three months or six months after the renewal of a major carriage deal.

It’s been eight years. I don’t see how the next three or six months are of any strategic significance to the extent some hush hush agreement is in place between the two.

Just like Now TV should join the BT platform right now :rolleyes:

muppetman11 28-07-2019 10:36

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
If's , but's and maybes your posts always follow the same path with absolutely zero credible sources of information to back up what you are saying and then think others are being hostile for quizzing you on what you say.

jfman 28-07-2019 10:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004399)
Just like Now TV should join the BT platform right now :rolleyes:

If any of this were plausible, which of course it isn’t, and I were a Sky shareholder I’d be asking why Sky’s “lucrative” revenue streams from Virgin are dependent on a third party (BT) being able to resell Now TV?

OLD BOY 28-07-2019 11:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36004400)
If's , but's and maybes your posts always follow the same path with absolutely zero credible sources of information to back up what you are saying and then think others are being hostile for quizzing you on what you say.

We are discussing possibilities, not certainties here. Isn't that what a discussion forum does?

I am not saying it will happen, I am speculating that it might happen.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36004401)
If any of this were plausible, which of course it isn’t, and I were a Sky shareholder I’d be asking why Sky’s “lucrative” revenue streams from Virgin are dependent on a third party (BT) being able to resell Now TV?

You have more questions than answers, jfman. It's a wonder anything happens in this world with you around.

jfman 28-07-2019 11:07

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We know you don’t like being tested on your, often incredible, thoughts Old Boy. That’s what makes it most fun.

“It’s a wonder anything happens”, the implication that I’m wasting time. Can I just make the observation that it’s your persistent denial of reality that keeps this thread discussing what most of us see as an obviously settled matter?

OLD BOY 28-07-2019 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36004409)
We know you don’t like being tested on your, often incredible, thoughts Old Boy. That’s what makes it most fun.

“It’s a wonder anything happens”, the implication that I’m wasting time. Can I just make the observation that it’s your persistent denial of reality that keeps this thread discussing what most of us see as an obviously settled matter?

Like why would Virgin want Netflix on its platform? Or Amazon? Or Amazon channels? All of these arguments have been put forward in the past by people disagreeing with me that this will come about.

You forget that not every decision made by media companies follow your neat little package of ideas based on simplistic economic models such as 'this will cost the company £x and they will offer it to customers at £y and this makes it unviable'. There are many factors that are considered when making decisions such as these. Most of your arguments centre around very simple economic calculations when actually situations tend to be much more complex. It seems to me that you fail to factor in some very obvious considerations in your arguments, such as the additional revenue that can be made from attracting new customers. I have been saying for a long time that having all these services accessible and searchable from one box is an advantage and companies who offer such services will benefit from being able to offer all that content. Clearly, BT, Virgin Media and a reluctant Sky appreciate that now.

Roku is a good example of how people are attracted to a platform that offers a huge range of streaming services.

jfman 28-07-2019 13:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004417)
Like why would Virgin want Netflix on its platform? Or Amazon? Or Amazon channels? All of these arguments have been put forward in the past by people disagreeing with me that this will come about.

None of those had emphatic press releases about content deals that deliberately failed to mention them.

Quote:

You forget that not every decision made by media companies follow your neat little package of ideas based on simplistic economic models such as 'this will cost the company £x and they will offer it to customers at £y and this makes it unviable'. There are many factors that are considered when making decisions such as these. Most of your arguments centre around very simple economic calculations when actually situations tend to be much more complex. It seems to me that you fail to factor in some very obvious considerations in your arguments, such as the additional revenue that can be made from attracting new customers. I have been saying for a long time that having all these services accessible and searchable from one box is an advantage and companies who offer such services will benefit from being able to offer all that content. Clearly, BT, Virgin Media and a reluctant Sky appreciate that now.

Roku is a good example of how people are attracted to a platform that offers a huge range of streaming services.
Literally every single capitalist decision does follow a simplistic economic model - the straightforward profit seeking motive. The only bit of variance relates to a) market share or b) long term decision making.

I don't know how you can reasonably say I fail to consider the ability to gain new customers. Indeed, a straightforward reading of post 1464 sees me apply such insight into Sky Atlantic not coming to Virgin Media.

Media Boy UK 28-07-2019 17:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
We have found over the weekend that Virgin Media UK has removed the RED BUTTON from Good Food, Good Food HD, Good Food +1, Home and Home +1.

But their logos has NOT been removed yet from UKTV on Demand.

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Media Boy Views: Sky Cinema SD Channels to close on August 1st on Virgin Media UK.

Media Boy HQ thinks that Virgin Media will axe Sky Cinema SD Channels (Channels 431 - 442) this week.

The axe may come as early as Tuesday or Wednesday but we 60% feel it will happen on August 1st.

SonicMaster 28-07-2019 19:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36004436)
We have found over the weekend that Virgin Media UK has removed the RED BUTTON from Good Food, Good Food HD, Good Food +1, Home and Home +1.

But their logos has NOT been removed yet from UKTV on Demand.

The 'red button' has also been removed from Yesterday, Yesterday +1, Eden and Eden +1.

This is because the On Demand and Catch Up content for these channels was removed from Virgin Media following the dispute with UKTV.

The logos for all of these channels were removed from the UKTV Play menu on Virgin Media at the same time.

Catch Up content for Yesterday has since returned, but it has not been put back on the UKTV Play menu, however you can access it in the main Catch Up section.

Media Boy UK 28-07-2019 19:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36004448)
The 'red button' has also been removed from Yesterday, Yesterday +1, Eden and Eden +1.

This is because the On Demand and Catch Up content for these channels was removed from Virgin Media following the dispute with UKTV.

The logos for all of these channels were removed from the UKTV Play menu on Virgin Media at the same time.

Catch Up content for Yesterday has since returned, but it has not been put back on the UKTV Play menu, however you can access it in the main Catch Up section.

The red button was on Good Food and Home Channels when we last look about two weeks ago.

Really, Good Food and Home Channels was given to Discovery by BBC Studios as part of the "UKTV break up".

RichardCoulter 28-07-2019 20:32

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36004384)
It would be like how virgin media has netflix and amazon prime apps though which they don't gain money from? its literally being able to brag that customers have access to all content via V6 tivo box.

VM make money from Netflix, but only if people sign up via VM. I assume it will be the same for Amazon.

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36004449)
The red button was on Good Food and Home Channels when we last look about two weeks ago.

Really, Good Food and Home Channels was given to Discovery by BBC Studios as part of the "UKTV break up".

Maybe this is a pre-emptive move as Discovery make changes to the channels that they now have 100% control of?

Media Boy UK 28-07-2019 20:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36004453)
Maybe this is a pre emptive move as Discovery make changes to the channels that they now have 100% control of?

Well Discovery has move Home (on Freeview) and Good Food (on Sky) to higher channels number to give Quest (on Freeview) and TLC (on Sky) the lower channel number.

Moves on Freeview:

12. Dave (BBC give slot to Discovery) > Home (Was moved from channel 25 by Discovery) > Quest (Home end up at Channel 42)

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/06/why-...s-changed.html

Moves on Sky:

133. was Good Food > Now TLC

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/07/disc...ls-on-sky.html

SonicMaster 29-07-2019 08:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36004453)
Maybe this is a pre-emptive move as Discovery make changes to the channels that they now have 100% control of?

It's unrelated. Hence why the 'red button' is still on Really, which is also now under the ownership of Discovery, this is just due to the change with On Demand and Catch Up access following the UKTV dispute.

Other changes, following the sale of Really, Good Food and Home, will be made separately.

Media Boy UK 29-07-2019 08:45

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
BT Sport new DOG has gone live today - Media Boy HQ thinks BT are trying to copy Sky from 1993.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QZfFitswkw

Also BT Sport 4K UHD has become BT Sport Ultimare.

SonicMaster 29-07-2019 12:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
BT Sport 4K UHD was a much better name (actually says what it is) than the bland BT Sport Ultimate.

RichardCoulter 29-07-2019 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36004480)
BT Sport 4K UHD was a much better name (actually says what it is) than the bland BT Sport Ultimate.

Totally agree.

cheekyangus 29-07-2019 22:45

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36004480)
BT Sport 4K UHD was a much better name (actually says what it is) than the bland BT Sport Ultimate.

With any luck it will go the way of Sky Sports News HQ...:erm:

ScottishSteve 30-07-2019 00:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Sky Cinema SD channels are carrying a message that confirms from Thursday 1st Aug they will be exclusively HD

cheekyangus 30-07-2019 08:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36004519)
Sky Cinema SD channels are carrying a message that confirms from Thursday 1st Aug they will be exclusively HD

In related news, the mysterious unnamed channel on the Sky Cinema SD multiplex has been renamed Channel Update Slate.

I'd imagine that hidden slate JJ20X posted on Forumbox will appear soon, though the wording on that suggests that will appear after the switch.

OLD BOY 30-07-2019 09:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
The Curzon Home Cinema app will no longer be offered by Virgin Media in its Apps and Games section from 1 August 2019.

denphone 30-07-2019 10:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36004526)
The Curzon Home Cinema app will no longer be offered by Virgin Media in its Apps and Games section from 1 August 2019.

Was it ever that popular?.

Media Boy UK 30-07-2019 12:45

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Media Boy Sources has reveal that "Discovery Networks are the considering launching VR content."

muppetman11 30-07-2019 12:47

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
VR content the next 3D

Media Boy UK 30-07-2019 13:01

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36004519)
Sky Cinema SD channels are carrying a message that confirms from Thursday 1st Aug they will be exclusively HD

We hope Virgin Media UK will axe the Sky Sports HD fee soon. Even if that means Sky Sports SD is also axe we don't care.

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36004512)
With any luck it will go the way of Sky Sports News HQ...:erm:

Try posting Sky Sports News HQ HD then.:D

I did sometime put HD before HQ.:D

cheekyangus 30-07-2019 13:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36004535)
We hope Virgin Media UK will axe the Sky Sports HD fee soon. Even if that means Sky Sports SD is also axe we don't care.

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Try posting Sky Sports News HQ HD then.:D

I did sometime put HD before HQ.:D

VM put out a Press Release this morning about being cheapest for football. Maybe there's a clue in that somewhere? I only had a glance at it as it wasn't of much interest to me.
https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...eague-football

Legendkiller2k 30-07-2019 13:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36004527)
Was it ever that popular?.

I personally prefer BFI player (not sure if on vm) over curzon i find BFI has more unique content on it aswell as some free stuff too.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36004534)
VR content the next 3D

I think so yes i was fortunate enough to be part of a experiment with VR cinema at a tech event in November in Germany that showed a movie in VR,
if companies get this right i think it will be very succesful, the experience i had with it was incredible.

Media Boy UK 30-07-2019 13:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36004537)
VM put out a Press Release this morning about being cheapest for football. Maybe there's a clue in that somewhere? I only had a glance at it as it wasn't of much interest to me.
https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...eague-football

The wording on that suggests Sky Sports SD may soon be axe on Virgin Media UK.


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