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Just getting silly, with needing a dozen different subscriptions on a dozen different platforms, not all of which will work on some devices.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
 

An interesting situation causing much customer dissatisfaction. Could this be the point where Virgin discovers how quickly customer loyalty drains away when a company makes a stupid move?

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Very little football or sport, so judging by your recent posts, there's nothing on there that you would find good.

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So yet again I told everyone that we wouldn't get anything for free. Check my last message. Virgin media are deplorable just like Newcastle united and Mike Ashley. None of those lousy Liberty Global fiends will.
I think this will be the last time i come here. If they lose UKTV (a channel my mum depends on- mainly freeview channels) i'm quitting virgin media at the end of my contract finally.

If anyone wants to PM the best route for me and my mum to go for sports and UKTV channels etc. I need V6 like boxes. I'm being serious this time all for my retirement here. With football being whored out and now even basic channels my mum likes i have no intention of remaining around here. So if anyone can PM the best option. Im thinking sky?

I have no intention of doing the whole sky1/sky sports news rubbish from 2005 or whenever it was. I remember me and my dad watching it go off air. He's dead now. I'm 10 years older. I'm on a bigger wage now. I have a mum who likes uktv. Nah can't be arsed with this sh*t anymore for such an amateur company who hikes price rises constantly.

So anyone with the best route for me going forward PM ME.

Bye all its been warm and fuzzy and MB and Den my favourite guys i've enjoyed this. But VM is dead now. Literally no one is running the tv side of it

P.S my wage is bigger as i was in asda before and now i'm on genuinely the UK average but still fed up with VM

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Yes because I'm seriously considering it but can't for 5 months!

If VM can't fix this bull shit issue with UK TV we can leave penalty free due to virgin breaching their own contract internet is good but loosing TV channels is not good for the already dead TV platform

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The new channel lineup reminds me of another platform. Free sport and music channels joining general entertainment channels at the top of the EPG. Just like Freeview.



Virgin takes on a whole bunch of extra channels from free platforms and also emulates the Freeview EPG. Good work!

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Its strange that Virgin always stated it takes time to get channels on their platform because negotiations and agreements take time and then suddenly its Bobs your uncle as because of a negotiation breakdown they suddenly produce a whole plethora of them before you can say Jack Robinson.

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Plenty for Virgin customers to watch MM.

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But not everybody watches football or other sports as like 50 people ordering a meal in a restaurant they all have different tastes and a TV customer is no different to that.

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This seems like a rushed exercise, i belive it will be sorted in tbe end once bbc start losing 4m customers worth of money. I think the added channels will move in new year, most channels are on Freeview but cheap virgin

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Its seem at the heart of the breakdown in talks is the BBC

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I wouldn't believe everything Vm says Den. They are expecting/will get a substantial cut in fees, will they be passing that on to customers ? I think we know the answer.

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As you well know Mr K us plebs are only spoon-fed a small bit of information generally but as the old saying goes it will all come out in the wash eventually..;)

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BBC has a clause that means it can buy 50% of UKTV it doesn't own if the other 50% changes hands (which it is trying to get C4 or ITV to buy straight away for competition reasons). Discovery bought Scripps and triggered clause. Maybe this has had knock-on effects?

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Read between the lines.
At the end of the day, it is not about 'on demand' rights for back catalogue BBC stuff - which are retained by the BBC and which they are pretty obviously not keen to give away for peanuts - as licence fee payers we should hopefully expect no less.
It is really about VM imposing a fees reduction on UK TV for the stuff we already get - or got. The perception is that it is over priced for what is currently on offer, and I suspect there is an element of truth in that. On that basis an 11th hour resolution is always possible - as with the previous ITV standoff which now seems to have gone away.

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A think a loss of itv channels would have totally destroyed vm

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Some on here have predicted the doom and demise of Virgin Media before but alas they were nowhere near in their infamous predictions..

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Let's not be fooled this is about money , Virgin are offering less and UKTV want more.

To all those throwing the toys out the pram , I suspect you'd also be on here moaning if Virgin increase your costs in part to paying UKTV more.

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Suspect that isn't the issue. While we don't know the ins and outs of the negotiations, it would seem that VM want to pay somewhat less than they do now, rather than UK TV demanding more.

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It's interesting how Virgin Media have tried to order the replacement channels in a way so that they are most likely to appeal to the same viewers as the UKTV channels, in many cases, but not all:

124 Gold > Paramount Network HD
125 W > Lifetime SD
126 Alibi > True Entertainment
127 Dave > Premier Sports HD
128 Drama > YourTV
129 Really > 4Music
130 Alibi +1 > FreeSports
131 W +1 > Sky Sports Mix

190 Gold +1 > True Entertainment +1
191 W HD > Vice

194 Dave HD > Quest HD

200 Alibi HD > Crime+Investigation HD

211 Dave Ja Vu > Discovery Turbo

245 Yesterday > HISTORY HD
246 Yesterday +1 > Lifetime +1
247 Eden > Love Nature HD
248 Eden +1 > ZooMoo
249 Eden HD > Love Nature SD

278 Good Food > Together
279 Good Food +1 > Horse & Country
280 Good Food HD > ?
281 Home > More4
282 Home +1 > More4 +1

There are pop-up messages promoting the replacements now appearing on all UKTV channels.

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But why pay anymore if the meal you are buying has several components still missing from it..

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Well yes I would be on here moaning as that is exactly what they have done. As it means I will have to source Gold and Watch from Tv player at an extra cost of £7.99 a month or Now tv but that does not carry Watch.

So even though my subscription is loosing Gold and Watch I am gaining Horse and Country as part of the replacement.

If it was not for the trees I would be off to Sky.[COLOR="Silver"]

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I’ll be getting a kindle fire to solve that issue

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That was what I meant I perhaps just didn't word it the best , I should have said UKTV want more than Virgin are offering.

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More4 is currently on 147 so this 281 business is weird unless they are duplicating the channel.

Channel 4 wouldn't be pleased about their channel being shoved up (or down depending how you look at it) the EPG because of a dispute with another company.

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Latest press release:

Virgin Media adds VICE TV to its platform

http://www.virginmedia.com/content/v...-platform.html

Due to launch on Virgin Media channel 219, and/or 191 if UKTV's channels are removed.

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Another:

Paramount network coming to Virgin TV in HD in UK

http://www.virginmedia.com/corporate...-hd-in-uk.html

Due to launch on Virgin Media channel 187, and/or 124 if UKTV's channels are removed.

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Bye Bye

You can't give us some free to air channels now you're pulling all the UKTV channels

I'm off to another provider

Good riddance

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The fact they mention channel numbers if UKTV don’t go gives us hope

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Virgin Media has reached out to BBC Studios in hopes of striking a deal that would bring at least some of the content to their customers as Box Sets. Thus far those attempts have been unsuccessful.

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Time is running out that is for sure as the sabre rattling intensifies.:argue::argue:

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The problem is that if bbc studios don’t even meet virgin half way we are screwed

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Brings back painful memories of the Sky row they had some years back

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And that lasted 18 months if my memory serves me well.

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hoping common sense takes place and they can do a deal to save uktv channels

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Yes, but Sky was a different matter altogether, being the reason most people wanted pay tv at the time, and still is.

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How long before OB tells us Sky Atlantic is coming to replace these.:D

You never know he may be right on his 15th attempt.:D

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l am counting down the days MM.:D

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Add two noughts onto the end and you won't go far wrong.;):D

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Given Virgin's stance on BBC/UKTV's on demand content, I'm surprised there no mention of customers being able to watch programmes from these new channels "wherever they want, whenever they want". No on demand rights?

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Not until next year, unfortunately :D

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Premier Sports free "initially" for two months, maybe more then?

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good spot :)

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"On top of this we continue to expand our range of on-demand and 4K Ultra HD TV, with plans to launch more this year."

Shame they couldn't include Love Nature UHD content, but interesting to see what they have up their sleeves.

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Where did you see this, Mark?

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It's on Virgin's update, Max

"We will also be making the Premier Sports HD channel available to all TV customers initially for two months with no additional subscription required. This will mean our customers can enjoy all of the football matches from the International Champions Cup, which features the best six teams in the English Premier League and many of the top European teams. This weekend both Manchester City and Liverpool will face Dortmund and Bayern Munich will take on Paris Saint-Germain. Alongside the football many other gripping sporting events are available on Premier Sports – from every Pro 14 Rugby game to NHL ice hockey matches."

http://www.virginmedia.com/shop/tv/tvupdate.html

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Dave42 posted the link: http://www.virginmedia.com/shop/tv/tvupdate.html

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Hi. What if you subscribe to premier sports. Will virgin still charge?

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Thx for the replies guys, just saw it online...….:)

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you'd hope not! give them a call

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I'd like to think they would automatically credit your bill for the subscription cost.

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I’m not sure I get the logic. Those currently paying for it are getting what they chose to pay for.
Those getting it free for short time are getting it as a tester in the hope they pay up later.
This commonly happens with other channels. I never saw anyone on Full House expecting some money back when those on lower bundles got a few channels not in their package as a tester.

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I well and truly threw the toys out the pram this morning and hit the VM retentions team with as many teddy bears as I could muster. I have been suitably compensated.:)

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Yep, what a mess that was. And what did we get as compensation: Virgin One...

VM were telling me this morning that one of the arguments that they were using against UKTV to get them to reduce their fees, was the lower viewership of the UKTV channels. Which I can believe in this streaming age. It's just us that suffers again.

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The programmes that UKTV broadcast have already been paid for by our TV Licence. Then, even though we pay to watch them again, we are being denied the opportunity. This is at the same time as some channels and much programming are made available to Freeview & Freesat viewers.

Whilst the channels are missing i'm considering cancelling my TVL and will be getting a reduction from VM, either by a better deal to reflect the missing channels or downgrading. I shall then cancel when my contract ends.

The BBC want to have their cake and eat it by selling linear content to us (again) and then the VOD rights to the likes of Netflix.

VM are as much to blame for trying to cut carriage fees. Whilst they do have legitimate arguments, if they win this will simply boost their profits and won't be passed on to us.

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That's true:)

If it was going to be in the Full House pack permanently, that's when a refund would be due.

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It's interesting that they used the word "if" the UKTV channels were removed when talking about these new low value channels being added. I wonder if this means that they won't launch in the unlikely event that the matter is resolved or that they will be added in any case, but not using the old UKTV EPG slots??

Very true Den. People have been asking for the Freeview channels for years and some channels available in the ROI were not extended to the UK.

Now, when VM want to try and fill the gaps that will be appearing in the EPG, they are made available with no problem whatsoever!

I suspect that some of the poorer Freeview channels have been given a special deal to enable them to get on board ;-) Given that VM look to be running out of capacity again, this deal may include a clause that they won't be added should UKTV remain on air.

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Was free now gone again - not quite your 8 weeks!

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Well I can't get premier sports - only a message to upgrade my subscription.

What is going on?

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I think the free period of Premier Sport HD only starts from Sunday. I had it for a while last night on channel 551 but it disappeared again and the you are not subscribed message popped up.

And reading the VM blurb about the loss of UKTV channels and the info on the new channels it lists Premier Sport HD at channel 127. If you go to channel 127 (which is Dave i believe) a pop up comes up saying it will be replaced by Premier Sport HD. So whether it will be on 2 EPG numbers ??

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Some interesting wording in the latest press release about Premier Sports HD being free to all Virgin TV customers for two months 'initially'...

'All Virgin TV customers will be able to watch Premier Sports in high-definition on channel 551 and temporarily on 127.'

It suggests that the channels going on to the slots currently occupied by UKTV channels will be in addition to their own slots on a temporary basis, which means that IF they get them back in future they will be able to go back where they were or Virgin Media can sell them off to the highest bidder like with E4 taking the old BBC Three slot.

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This must have been going on for a while, Virgin can't just pull additional channels out of their backside at will.

Seems none of the infamous 'insiders' knew about this.

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Mr Muppet :

I presume you still have Sky?
Do Sky have boxsets from UKTV or just catch up?

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l suspect they have been planning for this scenario for quite a few months..

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Well if you know anybody on sky then sky go solves the problem only thing no reminders or recording but still can watch it

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With the addition of this latest batch of channels there are actually very few TV channels that VM doesn't have, except for all of UKTV's channels... finally the likes of HISTORY HD, C+I HD, YourTV, Vice and FreeSports will be added. It would be Disney Channel HD and MTV Classic, and if the exclusively ends Sky Atlantic and AMC, nothing else for me.

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Yes, it's kind of ironic, isn't it Sonic Master? Almost true channel parity with Sky, just as the traditional method of watching tv is starting to fade as the streamers get more powerful.

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So will the access to Sky Box Sets be a full access as I am sure the Box Sets include sets from Virgin Atlantic or will this be a reduced access?

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What you mean

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Sorry - It says we are going to have access to Sky Box Sets and that at the moment I think includes programmes which are on Sky Atlantic, which we do not have access to. I was wondering if this new announcement means we would be able to watch Box Sets like Boardwalk Empire and Billions etc?

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Very unlikely because sky Atlantic and all it’s on demand content in not allowed on virgin media

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There is no mention of any Sky Atlantic programming in VM''s announcement, so I'd say the answer is no, you won't be able to access their shows on demand.

As long as there is a Game of Thrones series knocking around, Sky will want to keep that exclusive for themselves.

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That's what I thought although the announcement could have been clearer I suppose.

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All dave Gorman collection on UKTV box sets on sky but nothing on virgin, I can see why they don’t pay

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All the new channels are now on-air, in addition to the UKTV channels that are still broadcasting, so capacity for them all isn't an issue.

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It's been calculated that they have enough space for only four more HD channels, more if in SD.

The capacity looks to have been taken from the space reserved for UHD channels.

The UKTV channels now have an advert playing in the breaks advising viewers of the impending removal and asking Virgin Media customers to call Virgin Media to complain.

I noticed yesterday that, whenever UKTV were playing this advert (to all their customers, not just VM subscribers), a pop up was overlaid onto the bottom of the screen with a message from VM!

I'm not sure how they did this, but it doesn't show up on recordings or when you rewind to delay TV. This is the first time i've ever seen them do this, you'd think that broadcasters would have something to say about VM interfering with the output of their channels. I guess somebody must be manually doing this as VM won't be privvy to when UKTV will be showing these ads.

I wonder what the new test services are for? From what people have said (bar the UKTV channels, timeshift and platform exclusive channels), the salient channels that we don't have are now only Disney HD, MTV Classics and CNN HD. Are there any more? If not, the only channel we are missing completely that VM have access to is MTV Classics.

One good thing could be that, if they do manage to come to an agreement or the channels return after a short time, it has forced VM to carry most of the missing channels and a few more too.

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Premier HD is now on the epg along with Freesports

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HISTORY HD has been put on 299 but there is room for it on 272 next to the SD and +1 variants on 270 and 271, unless it will be replacing Yesterday on 245 permanently.

C+I on 275 could move to 223 so it sits between the HD and +1 variants on 222 and 224, unless C+I HD will be replacing Alibi HD on 200 permanently.

True Entertainment +1 is on 220 but will move to 190 next to the main channel on 189 when Gold +1 is removed.

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I seem to remember a similar situation before, where both sides were putting their "case" to the viewers.


If VM didn't play hardball, UKTV and others would never be forced to provide anything via On Demand.


With all the planned new channels up and running and in place, I can't see them moving to the original claimed channel numbers to replace the UKTV channels. If if the UKTV loss was permanent, the suggested changes were nonsense, eg 3 sports channels in the 100+ range.

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And even after a price hike,VM still don't want to pay the fee so with the withdrawal of the channels it's a kick in the teeth for the viewers

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There are still a number of ways to watch UKTV programmes, through an aerial, online, or through streaming services such as Netflix. https://t.co/I5avIV7QS7
-NL

A Tweet from Virgin Media earlier today. Oh dear

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Well just under 5 hours for a agreement if not come December I’m off to sky without a dish service, I’d leave now but it isn’t launched yet then I’m off

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. In addition, we continue to expand our range of on-demand and 4K Ultra HD TV with more coming this year.” What bloody 4K crap

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Makes me laugh where they say "New Channels" pretty much the whole list I have now and pay for so I'll be looking for some sort of large discount off my current bill for the channels we will lose on UKTV, I'm currently out of contract so no reason to stay with them for TV now

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I think it's quite unprecedented that VM is telling its cable TV customers to virtually plug the aerial in!

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We now entering the 11th hour the same time sky got a solution with discovery

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VM are just temporarily filling all the UKTV occupied channels to show customers what they have replaced them with. I can see the sports channels reverting to the sports section when the Premier Sports promo ends.

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Well, I hope you look before you leap!

Why would you want to pay for material which was free when it was broadcast? No accounting for folk!

For heaven's sake, let's start looking to the future! I have to say that for someone who wants more UHD, making the case for the grainy pictures you get from this old material makes no sense!

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When does sky launch it’s dish free service

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Why should you be surprised? I don't know about you, but I have been questioning for a while why I am paying for these inferior services when I could pick up these programmes on Freeview. If you ask me, I think we have been taken for a ride!

I really cannot understand what all the fuss is about!

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just changed now

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What does this have to do with this debate? There is a separate section for Sky TV services on the forum.

Similar contractual disputes will occur with Sky, too, over time. Remember the standoff with the Discovery channels?

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Yeah but looking they have just taken any channels to fill in a space and personally I’m fed up with virgin and in December won’t renew my tv service

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What have you changed into, Dave? :shocked:

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channels have changed silly

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Still don't get why they had to move/duplicate More4 and More4+1. The new channel names have a full stop at the end to distinguish them.

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No idea. We'll have to wait for the Comcast takeover to complete and see what they say.

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Because not everyone has an aerial and/or access to Freeview in full or in part. In addition, without extra equipment and faffing about they can't be recorded.

You yourself said that you wanted Amazon Prime to come to VM so that everything was neatly and conveniently in one place.

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Yes, I too was surprised at this. A dangerous game to play as some may find that Freeview perfectly meets their needs...

Another problem that this is causing is that the V6 thinks that the duplicates are different channels and is listing the same programme twice. I'm not sure if it will actually record both as i've deleted the duplicates because in some cases it wasn't going to record things on other channels due to clashes.

Couple this with the fact that the V6 is now (correctly) picking things up from the recently added channels and Planned Recordings are somewhat of a mess.

I'd advise people to check their planned recordings as you may find that what you expect to be recorded won't be.

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Comcast has nothing to do with the dish free service that's been in the works for ages long before Comcast showed interest in Sky.

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I don’t get why paramount and others are on twice like paramount HD on 124 and 187

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It's to make you think you're getting a new channel if you have seen it before

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I see all my series links for watch and alibi are still there.

Search for offcom general condition 9.6 guidance and it will let you know where you stand, seems that you can leave if you want due to the change

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187 is its correct channel - it is on 124 to replace a UKTV channel which may (or may not) get re-added soon

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Yeah, 124 was GOLD.

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VM are reporting on Twitter that the free UKTV channels will be restored with permission from the broadcaster themselves.

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Will be interesting to see who blinked if this is true.

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Doesn't look like that'll be happening

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44915060

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Nail on the head! The more services that someone takes from VM, the less likely they are to leave. So by encouraging people to use Freeview, they will not only risk losing customers as a TV customer but as a broadband customer too. I can see people saying "I didn't realise they had all these channels on Freeview now. "I didn't know Netflix, ITV Hub and 4OD were on my telly, why does Virgin make such a big deal about its catch-up services when anyone can get them"

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It's a very good point and one I'm contemplating but I have 1 issue BB through BT line in my area is max 2gb on a good day according to Sam knows I'm 3.9miles from my local exchange