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Hugh 09-05-2018 23:15

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35946092)
l am glad Wenger got a decent home farewell and when someone like Sir Alex is seriously ill thankfully tribal rivalry goes out the window.

It's great news about Sir Alex, now sitting up in bed!

It was good of Wayne Rooney to visit him in hospital yesterday.

"His speech is improving, and he can almost string a sentence together" said Sir Alex.

iadom 09-05-2018 23:55

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:(

daveeb 10-05-2018 11:36

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35946398)
It's great news about Sir Alex, now sitting up in bed!

It was good of Wayne Rooney to visit him in hospital yesterday.

"His speech is improving, and he can almost string a sentence together" said Sir Alex.

:D

iadom 13-05-2018 19:03

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Another typical end of season bore fest at OT this afternoon. One thing is for certain only a couple of players who started today will be on the pitch at Wembley.

In fact Michael Carrick was not the only one given his last game for United, quite a few other candidates on show.

denphone 13-05-2018 19:15

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35946708)
Another typical end of season bore fest at OT this afternoon. One thing is for certain only a couple of players who started today will be on the pitch at Wembley.

In fact Michael Carrick was not the only one given his last game for United, quite a few other candidates on show.

Who would you offload and who would you keep Jim?

iadom 13-05-2018 19:55

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Well Daly Blind left the pitch as if he knew it was his last game. Darmian doesn’t quite do it for me. Would really love to see Luke Shaw get back to his best. Young and Valencia are not really kosher full backs and are both getting a bit long in the tooth as is Mata. Martial didn’t even make the bench today and both him and Rashford need to step it up if they stay. Sanchez looks lost ATM but I’m making allowances for him given his short time at the club.

Kabaal 13-05-2018 20:23

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Martial was injured in training on Friday.

Hopefully we actually do a clear out this summer, so much dead wood in the squad.

adzii_nufc 13-05-2018 21:01

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Nice of Newcastle to take full advantage of Chelsea's shocking performance.

Aubameyang joined Arsenal in February and finished 1 goal behind Morata and ahead of Hazard in assists...:erm:

iadom 13-05-2018 22:12

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Let’s hope Chelsea retain that form for next Saturday.:)
Forgot to mention but it was great to see eight members of the European Cup winning side from 50 years ago come onto the pitch before kick off. Seems like only yesterday.

I couldn’t get a ticket for that game but a couple of mates went to Wembley.
I did join the massive crowds in Albert Square the day after.:cool:

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Barca’s attempt to do an ‘Invincibles’ under serious threat of failure.:shocked:
This is a bit like Brighton tonking City 4-1, sorry make that 5-1.

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Well, well, game on, as mad as Spurs v Foxes.

Damien 13-05-2018 22:41

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35946722)
Barca’s attempt to do an ‘Invincibles’ under serious threat of failure.

And they have lost with just two games to go. :erm:

tbf When Arsenal did it the hardest games were the last four. After committing all season to win the title, winning it, then trying to motivate yourself for the last few games is difficult.

adzii_nufc 13-05-2018 22:45

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I know it's cliche now to say things like this but had they done it, the fact still still remains that Arsenal did it in a far superior league at the time. Still at the top of the pile ahead of Juventus, Milan, Preston and Celtic.

denphone 15-05-2018 16:09

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Arsenal's new manager it seems...

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...rsenal-manager

adzii_nufc 15-05-2018 19:32

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They can't be serious. You just absolutely know this is going to go horribly wrong and Arsenal will finish with their lowest ever Premier League finish followed by ''Appointment was a mistake'' followed by we should've seen this coming after the tragic job Moyes did at United. :erm:

Is there just no ambition at Arsenal football club anymore?

Kabaal 15-05-2018 19:32

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Looks like Sporting in Portugal is in deep crap. About 50 "fans" invaded the training ground and attacked players and staff https://www.record.pt/futebol/futebo...-academia.html

It doesn't say it in the article but other places are saying at least one physio was stabbed too. Edit - article mentioning the stabbing http://ptjornal.com/fisioterapeutas-...queados-276432

I imagine there will be lots of transfer requests handed in there this summer or even termination of contracts.

denphone 16-05-2018 10:57

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Its all over Sam..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44136661

denphone 16-05-2018 13:24

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You better add Man United's former great saviour to that as well as he has just received his marching orders too.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...eaves-west-ham

Dave42 16-05-2018 13:33

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2 ex SAFC managers leave clubs on same day big Sam and David Moyes

denphone 16-05-2018 15:07

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Sad news just breaking sadly.:(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44140722

iadom 16-05-2018 15:46

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Actually saw him play for the Latics at the end of his career, class fullback.

denphone 18-05-2018 18:20

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West Ham's new manager perhaps?.

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...r-west-ham-job

iadom 18-05-2018 22:16

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Down in Woking at my brothers ahead of tomorrow’s final, watching Notts County v Coventry play offs. A shocking decision by the linesman ( refs assistant) has just denied County a perfectly legitimate equaliser. :mad:

And just to compound the felony Coventry score a goal that should have been flagged offside.

Carth 19-05-2018 00:06

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I've no idea about the premiership as I don't watch those games, but the standard of refereeing down in Leagues 1 & 2 is awful.

It seems very rare that a game result isn't influenced by an absolutely shocking decision - often one that most of the crowd see but the officials don't.

Has the standard really dropped over the years, or are we more aware of the gameplay and have a clearer view from block G row 37? :shrug:

iadom 19-05-2018 22:29

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Just landed back at my brothers in Woking. As I long suspected it would be, the FA Cup final was dire. United were really poor and Chelsea were even worse, Looking at the match stats you would think that United overran Chelsea but even with 18 attempts to 6 they were mainly half chances. Apart from the awful misskick by Rashford late in the first half and that dreadful header from Pogba near the end that is.
Jose should have hooked Sanchez at half time and left Lingard on. Sanchez was truly awful.

Still the weather forecast is good so I am going to enjoy a couple of days down here before returning north.:cool:

adzii_nufc 19-05-2018 23:16

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35947292)
I've no idea about the premiership as I don't watch those games, but the standard of refereeing down in Leagues 1 & 2 is awful.

It seems very rare that a game result isn't influenced by an absolutely shocking decision - often one that most of the crowd see but the officials don't.

Has the standard really dropped over the years, or are we more aware of the gameplay and have a clearer view from block G row 37? :shrug:

Its actually rotten from the top down. The Premier League has gradually gotten worse over the years. This year was shocking for refereeing decisions. The FA literally do nothing. In some scenarios they might as well be encouraging it by refusing to comment or take action on it.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...efereeing-has/

5 years ago we were being told to lay off referees and avoid over-criticising. That's happened. However it's now reached the point where we're just ignoring how bad its getting. At least then it was debated weekly/monthly. Now it's slipping towards becoming acceptable.

Damien 20-05-2018 10:28

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Well they introduced VAR and everyone hated it.

I am not sure what we can expect from referees when they have a singular moment's chance to get a decision right and their angle can be less than ideal no matter how hard they work on their positioning. Consistency getting penalty calls right when the box is stuff full of players, the incident happens on the wrong side of the player and happens in a second is asking too much.

denphone 20-05-2018 19:29

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35947399)
Well they introduced VAR and everyone hated it.

I am not sure what we can expect from referees when they have a singular moment's chance to get a decision right and their angle can be less than ideal no matter how hard they work on their positioning. Consistency getting penalty calls right when the box is stuff full of players, the incident happens on the wrong side of the player and happens in a second is asking too much.

VAR needs to be given more of a chance instead of the predictable kneejerk reactions thus we have had so far from some..

TheDaddy 20-05-2018 19:59

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35947399)
Well they introduced VAR and everyone hated it.

I am not sure what we can expect from referees when they have a singular moment's chance to get a decision right and their angle can be less than ideal no matter how hard they work on their positioning. Consistency getting penalty calls right when the box is stuff full of players, the incident happens on the wrong side of the player and happens in a second is asking too much.

Everyone didn't hate it, the vast majority hated the way it was implemented, they screwed it up at the start and now people have lost faith in it, wait for the backlash if it ruins the world cup.

Damien 20-05-2018 20:43

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35947461)
Everyone didn't hate it, the vast majority hated the way it was implemented, they screwed it up at the start and now people have lost faith in it, wait for the backlash if it ruins the world cup.

They didn't do it as well as they could have but there was bound to be a learning curve as we, and the refs, adjusted. Instead perfect become the enemy of good and it was stopped. If they had learned and improved then maybe it would have got better but now it's likely dead for a few seasons at least.

iadom 20-05-2018 20:44

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When I was at Wembley for the Spurs v Rochdale game VAR was a complete shambles. Yesterday I didn’t even realise it had been used to check the Sanchez offside decision. That was done fairly quickly and viewing the TV replays later it was perfectly correct.
Nothing wrong with VAR, nothing wrong with a CAR as long as either is operated efficiently.

denphone 20-05-2018 20:53

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35947465)
When I was at Wembley for the Spurs v Rochdale game VAR was a complete shambles. Yesterday I didn’t even realise it had been used to check the Sanchez offside decision. That was done fairly quickly and viewing the TV replays later it was perfectly correct.
Nothing wrong with VAR, nothing wrong with a CAR as long as either is operated efficiently.

Spot on Jim.

adzii_nufc 20-05-2018 21:20

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I'd say it's a pretty strong statement when someone like Arsene Wenger is claiming there's been a refereeing standard decline.

Then I remembered he's the guy that only seems to see the decisions that go against him. His famous words ''I did not see the incident''

denphone 21-05-2018 19:45

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A new broom sweeps into the Hammers..

https://www.theguardian.com/football...am-new-manager

Damien 21-05-2018 21:35

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And Arsenal announce Emery as manager...

denphone 22-05-2018 06:05

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Quite surprised by that but there is no doubt he is a talented manager that is for sure doing well at Seville and dealing with the massive ego's at PSG.

adzii_nufc 22-05-2018 07:06

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It makes sense, I thought Arteta was a silly choice. This way they've found someone with experience but not with Pep or Mourinho level achievements that put them under pressure to instantly deliver. Far better appointment than I expected last week.

Benitez commits to at least the end of the 2018/2019 season. Apparently a transfer budget was agreed upon. We'll see how that goes though because he's willing to sign a new contract if all is delivered.

TheDaddy 24-05-2018 01:22

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Emery: I finished every season in La Liga only behind Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid

Arsenal board: you mean you finished 4th every season?

Emery: YES!

Arsenal board: You’re hired!!!

adzii_nufc 26-05-2018 22:32

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Gutted for Liverpool. On top for 20 minutes, didn't make that pay off. Still in the game until two shocking bits of play from keeper Karrius. Absolutely stinking. It's harsh to say one person cost a team but he really has here.

Absolutely typical that Salah had to go off combined with Karrius having a shocker. They didn't deserve this, at most they'd be at 1-1.

iadom 26-05-2018 22:37

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TBH , Bales first goal deserves to win any game. Salah loss killed Liverpool, lost their way after that.
Keeper had a shocker .

adzii_nufc 26-05-2018 23:00

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At least it was a fair game in the end. No controversial outcome. They showed they were still in it without Salah. Keeper cost them big. There's no way of hiding from it. He knew it too come the final whistle.

I'm not just throwing my toys out of the pram either but Madrid have literally ran through this tournament with absolute luck or by the skin of their teeth. So overall I'd say they clung onto the trophy rather than dominate it. On different days Juventus, Bayern etc some key decisions in those games. Madrid got it done in the end one way or another so congrats to them but Liverpool have done England proud.

Mr K 26-05-2018 23:06

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Sounds like Bale is up for a transfer. Wrexham maybe?! ;)

adzii_nufc 26-05-2018 23:09

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Bale to Man United. Chelsea is too meh, couldn't see him donning an Arsenal shirt. City don't actually need him. Sanchez and Pogba are awful. Well Pogba is, Sanchez is just out of sorts. Bale would do well there. The reason I drag Pogba in is I'm sure Bale could outperform both players from one position. You can create something at United, you can't do that anymore at Chelsea, nobody will think of Hazard in the same way as Lampard, Drogba and so forth. You get that United, People will forget Van Der Saar actually made his name at Fulham, Ashley Young at Villa etc but those names instantly make you think United. Bale would have that same chance.

Mr K 26-05-2018 23:14

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35948156)
Bale to Man United. Chelsea is too meh, couldn't see him donning an Arsenal shirt. City don't actually need him. Sanchez and Pogba are awful. Well Pogba is, Sanchez is just out of sorts. Bale would do well there. The reason I drag Pogba in is I'm sure Bale could outperform both players from one position.

Nah, it's definitely Wrexham, I have it on good authority

Dave42 27-05-2018 02:02

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Ronaldo away too

John Murray‏Verified account @bbcjohnmurray 2h2 hours ago
Spanish radio tell me Ronaldo said on the pitch post match: it was a pleasure for me to play for Real Madrid...I will speak in a few days...I will speak to the supporters because they really love me.
#bbcfootball

adzii_nufc 27-05-2018 03:52

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He's another I can only see at United. Chelsea are somehow favourites but I can't see him at any Premier League club other than United. He's still got at least two seasons in him at a top level to be fair, its hard to say nowadays, this is a generation that could retire far later. In comparison to the likes of Shearer who was done at about 31ish and kept on playing as a shadow of his former self. Sporting Lisbon would be the other choice but they're in crisis at the moment and they're not really elite enough so that's off the table. PSG, although unsure how they'd manage it given their current FFP situation.

I just can't see a bloke that's still scoring 40+ a season dropping to somewhere like China or the MLS. The lad is worth 400 million, there's no sense in going to China for money. I'd be disappointed if he does.

Bale, Ronaldo and Lukaku completing Man United's front three?

Wonder if they can shift Pogba whilst he's still worth actual money and not magic beans.

denphone 27-05-2018 06:10

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Deeply Gutted last night as sadly losing Salah the fulcrum of our attack was bad enough and then on top of that to give away two goals to the opposition through the calamitous Loris Karius to a team that certainly has been extremely lucky all this tournament was just too much to bear and then on top of that the missing Gareth Bale scores the greatest goal of his career.

Damien 27-05-2018 09:41

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I feel sorry for Karius. Imagine living with those mistakes, he must feel so awful.

denphone 27-05-2018 10:16

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35948181)
I feel sorry for Karius. Imagine living with those mistakes, he must feel so awful.

Indeed as sadly he will be crucified by all and sundry but like us all he is only human at the end of the day and like most humans we make mistakes in our life in whatever arena that is in.

Dave42 27-05-2018 10:31

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35948181)
I feel sorry for Karius. Imagine living with those mistakes, he must feel so awful.

getting some real vile abuse on twitter very sad to see :(

Mr K 27-05-2018 12:27

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35948181)
I feel sorry for Karius. Imagine living with those mistakes, he must feel so awful.

I shouldn't worry, hes probably laughing all the way to the bookmaker (rumours have it he's not even a Scouser !)

Carth 27-05-2018 12:33

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35948195)
I shouldn't worry, hes probably laughing all the way to the bookmaker (rumours have it he's not even a Scouser !)

Dammit Mr K, I was just thinking how long it would be before someone suggested that. . . . and then almost did it myself :D

oh, and Bale won't touch Utd if he has any sense ;)


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