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that's too much info to take in can you just show who won .

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Which is why we decide these things though elections and not the current state of polling but the current state of polling can still be informative. For example it might convince a PM to call an election.

This poll isn't especially interesting because the YouGov Brexit tracking poll has always had it around 52-48. This one poll is a minor shift which can just be down to sampling or whatever, it's within normal boundaries. The view on Brexit has largely remained the same with people sticking by their original vote. It's symbolic because it's the first time the tracker has Remain ahead since the referendum but it's not evidence of a real shift in public opinion.

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Just waiting for the usual, Blue Ribband munching, suspects to turn up and put their usual negative Brexit spin on Amazon's decision to open new distribution centres, creating thousands of full time jobs...

Wrong type of jobs; wrong type of company; would've been far more jobs if Brexit hadn't happened; they don't make chocolate biscuits; blah blah blah...

:D

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7704901.html

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Remainers always focus on a few city wide-boy jobs going abroad and ignore the tens of thousands of jobs being created in our bouyant economy despite Brexit, or indeed, maybe because of it.

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and some of them trawl the lower bowel regions of the internet looking for negativity to post in an act of sheer desperation to save their beloved EU membership .

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Sort of remembering why I avoid this thread

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EU trade commissioner says bloc will do post-Brexit free trade deal with UK 'for sure'
Just to balance the bad news stories, but equally silly :D

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Well it is hard to argue a coherent case for staying in such a defective club. ;)

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It's probably more about the floods of vituperation, name-calling, and straw-man arguments about what those who don't agree with Brexit might say, make it difficult to have a rational discussion, when it appears that some people just want to argue...

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that's a bit one sided ;)

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I think there's plenty of evidence as to what the usual suspects I referred to here say and think about Brexit, hence my post and others like it making the point that they're quick to cite what they claim are negative impacts of Brexit (even when they're not, as in the case of Nestle) but not so quick to accept anything else.

I may be wrong but I don't think a single Brexiteer here has claimed leaving the EU will be easy, simple, without risks or costs and rational remainers will accept that staying in is far from risk free I'm sure. The irrational ones who're not interested in debate are, IMHO, those who refuse to do that.

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Very true Hugh, but we carry on regardless ! It wouldn't given the Brexiters the 'usual suspects' to to have a go at after all.... It's a different opinion nothing more, wouldn't be much of a debate/forum otherwise.

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This topic area is a bit underweight on Remainer contributions now that people like Ignitionet, martyh and ianch99 have left.

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These are the ones who are at fault whose minds are still lapping behind and discussing if we should stay or leave, what they need to comprehend is, that boat has sailed, that debate is over.

Then there is the one person, and he know who he is, who continues to berate those who voted leave and treats them with unwarranted disdain, continues to say what a mistake we have made.

Let me make this clear, I will not have anybody tell me, I have made a mistake or tell me they are ashamed to be British, if you feel ashamed, then do so on your own. I did not regret voting leave on June 23rd 2016 and I still don't regret it.

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Nice try, but I'm sure martyh voted leave...as for ianch, I just saw on who's online he just sent you a PM.

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It's the personal abuse that what's wrong with this thread. Fair enough to disagree on the issues, but Brexiters seem to like adding a personal jibe. If that wasn't bad enough one of the worst offenders is a senior of the forum, who is less than even handed, he knows who he is ;)

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Is it really appropriate to disclose who has sent who a PM? It's private or isn't it?

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:hyper: Tell me quick, dying to know who he is....

But on another note. I've had lots of crap from some of those who 1andrew1 has listed in his post above, who had a serious problem with seeing my name in red and thinking that because I'm an admin, I'm not entitled to any views or I should conform to not having any views at all. Not going to happen. If people don't like what I got to say, feel free to disagree and if people think they can force their views on me, they are not going to like me very much and by the way, the door is there.

If people think they are going to send me down Guilt Street by leaving, they are wrong, CF has been around a very long time, seen lots of people come and go (and come back under another guise). Like I said to one of those who 1andrew1 listed, I'm not here to make friends.

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It probably is just as inappropriate to discussing who may no longer be a member.

Any way, we are way off topic. Back to it.

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Is this a significant move or just sensible preparation now that the UK has invoked Article 50?
Google the headline in bold or https://www.ft.com/content/f4c720b0-...b-5528796fe35c for full article.

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How much pain would you find acceptable, personally I felt it hard enough when we were in up until about two years ago in terms of wage stagnation so I've suffered enough, it's someone else's turn.

Glad we're having these lectures on democracy, presumably all this talk of banning strike action on the railroads will stop now seeing as we all have a new found respect for the democratic process

That always made me chuckle, all the trouble they've caused us and they're threatening to leave, well go on then, see how frankfurt compares to London, just slightly up from some east Asian backwater they threatened to move to last time I'd imagine.

Marty said that more than once iirc

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I don't post often i this thread and try not to post opinions as most peoples opinions about Brexit are so firmly entrenched and medium of a discussion forum is so disjointed that it is a bit of a waste of time - face to face is always better.

However, I will make an exception here...

I was a Remain voter and nothing I have seen since has swayed by opinion on this. However, we are a democracy and the people voted Leave and that's that. Sometimes there appears to be a lack of nuance in discussions, especially regarding the EU. It's not 'all good' or 'all bad' but something in the middle.

When it comes to the Brexit process and especially any subsequent trade agreements, there are aspects such as free trade that, for pure economic reasons, we should fight hard to keep. Free trade with no custom barriers are essential for business with an international supply chain and/or customers. For example, just in time manufacturing cannot bear customs hold ups easily. These aspects are worth fighting for - falling back to WTO rules would be a disaster for what is left of our manufacturing capacity.

Based on what I said above, am I fighting Brexit or am I fighting a hard Brexit? I believe that a hard Brexit would be terrible for the UK economy. Brexit will happen but we should fight for the least disruptive path for the economy and the population.

On my mention of nuance, let's play a little game as this discussion has mainly 'Leave' supporters. For Leave people, what is the best thing about the EU and for Remainers, what is the worst thing?

I will kick off as a Remainer - there are two things that bug me. The inability to change VAT rules was a pain. I am thinking about being unable to remove VAT from tampons and digital books as an example. The second is maybe because I am used to a mainly 2 party state in our Parliament with the connection of Parliament with Government that the pace of legislation within the EU Parliament was slow. The EU Parliament is a constant coalition.

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The best thing about the EU is coming out of it.

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the best thing - article 50


the worst thing - it exists

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The EU could have been a wonderful thing without the single currency/one size fits all economic policy, free movement of people and the obsession with ever closer union.

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I'll play by the rules. I've always criticised the EU and like most people was on the line until I did my own research on the clear advantages of being in the EU.

The worst thing #1 - mandatory VAT on sanitary products though I think the UK government should have not allowed this at the start or put a microscopics VAT rate on.
The worst thing #2 - seeing the minimum attendance that MEPs can get away with but still get paid huge salaries.

and I'll even add in a third for good measure:

That faff in transporting those documents annually from Brussels to Strasbourg.

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My bad, my apologies martyh if you are reading this! ;)

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when :shrug:

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Verbally not digitally.

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Good shout, the moving thing is crazy and a sop to France many years ago.

Come on Leavers so far we have had the fact we are leaving and Article 50 (unless of course it's the fact that so many countries can reach a consensus with the Lisbon Treaty but I suspect not) Is there really nothing about the EU that is even slightly good?

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[QUOTE=jonbxx;35896638]Good shout, the moving thing is crazy and a sop to France many years ago.

Come on Leavers so far we have had the fact we are leaving and Article 50 (unless of course it's the fact that so many countries can reach a consensus with the Lisbon Treaty but I suspect not) Is there really nothing about the EU that is even slightly good?[/

no

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I just asked a leaver friend to say what they liked about the EU:
- Euro, so that they're not left having to spend all their money at the end of the holiday.
- Cleaning up of sewage so that British beaches are clean again.

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imaginary friend :shocked:

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Projection... ;)

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For people like myself, who believe firmly in independent Sovereign Nation states, and believe that the people who are really running the EU have a globalist agenda, then there is only one option: Get out whilst we can. If there are any positive aspects, they become irrelevant compared to leaving ASAP.

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Come on PB, despite your beliefs you must know some positive EU aspects you'd like to share on the forum? ;)

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Well, I guess I will miss the videos of Nigel Farage letting rip in the EU Parliament :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnOUSYu2Tz0

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I can't think of good with the EU but I can think of things that are useful but don't need the EU - free movement of people is good but rights of residence isn't. Tax free movement of goods is good but lack of freedom in tax at point of sale is not. EU blocking laws and bringing in some rights is good and EU blocking/enforcing laws and deny some rights is bad.

Overall people and goods should be able to move around the states freely but each state should be sovereign in it's own borders.

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You mean the EEC which is what we joined in 1972.

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I assume you mean with security checks at National borders for non nationals?

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Some common sense of the Icelandic variety:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...warns-iceland/

I'm not sure the EU does common sense though does it?... :shrug:

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Iceland loves trading with us. They still haven't paid us back for the 'Icesave' fiasco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icesave_dispute) and they won the 'Cod wars' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars).

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Really?

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Yep and the relevance of Iceland's banking problems to their view of the EU's handling of Brexit negotiations is what exactly? :rolleyes:

Once upon a time we had a dispute with Iceland over cod fisheries, it was quite nasty at times too. Perhaps that ought to render the opinions of their government invalid. :rofl:

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well i can tell you it counts for nothing in Grimsby the one time biggest fishing port

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The sad demise of Grimsby and its ilk has far more to do with the EU than Iceland I'd wager. ;)

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It means they aren't the best to give advice on financial/economic matters. Doubtless their only interest in the UK is selling us back our own fish !

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Care to explain how we own the fish from Icelandic waters?

Before you answer, read the full Wikipedia entry you referred to earlier instead of just "cherry picking" soundbites that suit your stance.

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define Icelandic waters

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They are now defined internationally as 200 miles IIFC.

Remember when we sank an Argentine destroyer?

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I'd say Iceland's in a lot better state financially than a great deal of the EU is so perhaps we should equally just ignore their arguments on the same basis. lol

I've seen some tenuous, partial, Brexit arguments around here but that is another new low.

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More mixed Brexit messages.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-br...-idUSKBN17U1UG

The BBC reports that undeterred Asian investors are increasingly investing in UK property. But the figures are from 2016 so this is probably a bit early to start drawing conclusions.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39732816

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BREXIT BLOCK: Gina Miller 'to fund SNP and Lib Dem MPs in bid to stop Tory landslide'


Windy Miller is set to spend tens of thousands in a bid to fund SNP and Lib Dem MPs and stop a Tory landslide and hard Brexit.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/798...european-union

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There's now talk of a French referendum. If France decide to leave, this could trigger Germany to do so, which could mean the end of the EU.

If this were to be the case, all our concerns about a hard/soft Brecht become irrelevant and we'll have paid them a divorce settlement for nothing.

If we take it slowly, we may be able to gauge what's happening in other EU countries before making a decision upon what we should do to benefit ourselves.

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how refreshing to hear some one suggest that we don't transfer the contents of our bank account into the EU

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I think if France left then that would be the end of the EU. But I'm not sure that even if Le Pen got in the country would vote leave.

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'The Remoaners want ALARMISM' Lord Jones insists Brexit is not about being 'anti-Europe'

A FORMER Trade Minister has called on the UK to ignore the “alarmism” being fanned by “Remoaners” in the lead up to the triggering of Article 50 on Wednesday.


interesting video


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/784...it-anti-europe

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Anti EU feeling is not just in the UK it has been growing throughout western europe for the last decade and I wouldn't be so certain of the french choosing to stay in if they got a referendum. Germany too has a large minority that's also growing that want out of the EU although I don't believe they are remotely close to having enough votes for leave.

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i would have said that here on 22 june 2016 but the next day the impossible happened

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Interesting snippetts in this article.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/frances.../#398ab5d4f046

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Monsieur Macron appears to agree:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39766334

But surely they'd be stupid to contemplate such a thing wouldn't they? It'd mean economic crisis, emergency budgets blah blah blah... That's what's been forced down our throats.

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She's right. The EU's concept of 'negotiation' is a one way street whereby they get everything they want. They're proving exactly what sort of club there's is and I can't help wondering why anyone would want to be remain part of it.

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Why do you care so much about what the EU wants? It's what Britain wants that is important. You seem afraid of the opening bluster from the EU; ignore it. If it does turn out to be more than pre talks sabre rattling, then we just walk away. I know this is from Forbes, but much of the British press seems to be working on the side of the EU negotiators. Shameful.

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:tu:

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If a country just 'walks away' from pre-agreed treaties and trade agreements, why would any other country trust it in the future with other treaties and trade agreements?

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The article is useful background reading for anyone interested in Brexit. Similar articles are now appearing in other publications, the original article was in German. the whole process of the article being leaked to a German publication is of interest in itself.
But - all the large assumptions you make about my position cannot be drawn from a simple article link. Where have I suggested I'm afraid of anything? And why shouldn't we try and understand our negotiating counterparts' views?

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From a security point of view that's an incredibly dangerous thing to do.

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Just walks away? Who's going to just walk away? You're making it sound as though they couldn't care less and aren't even going to try. There has to come a point when, if the two sides can't agree, then one, other or both walk away. If after protracted negotiations, the UK decides it can't accept what's being demanded of it how on earth is that 'just walking away'?

Maybe those countries you refer to will understand that the UK was forced into it by the utter intransigence of those they were supposed to be negotiating with in good faith. Maybe they'll look at the nature of those who were unreasonable and intransigent from the outset. Maybe they'll decide they're the ones who're not to be trusted and dealt with.

According to this curious form of logic the UK can't win - it effectively has to accept whatever's demanded of it by the EU because to reject that option would be to 'just walk away' and lose respect internationally. If indeed the UK is forced to reject an unacceptable deal it won't be just walking away and I'd say the UK gain a whole lot more respect from overseas than it does disdain.

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"just walk away" was a phrase used by passingbat, so your comments should be directed to him and not Hugh. Bewilderingly, you gave passingbat's comments which you now disagree with the thumbs up.

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If the EU are playing hard ball, we have to do the same. I suspect it's opening rhetoric, but it worries me that some news outlets are paying more attention and giving massive credence to what the EU wants rather than what Britain wants. Showing fear about the EU's demands weakens our negotiating stance. Lets be honest; some of the proponents of a soft Brexit, don't want a soft Brexit; they want to stay in the EU. And with a soft Brexit, we may as well have stayed in the EU.


Britain won't walk away from any outstanding commitments, but we will be walking away from a Federal States of Europe.

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The EU has long-stated that its position of sorting out formulas for leaving and then talking about a trade deal as a third country and this is all in the public domain. Those are its rules, I don't think it's hard or soft ball, just reality.

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Well, we should tell them we don't like their rules. The 'divorce settlement' and talks on a trade deal should go hand in hand.

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Sure, we can tell them by all means but I wouldn't expect them to magically change them.
In reality, I suspect Theresa May will talk tough until the election and afterwards be quiet. Probably she will go for a Norwegian style temporary deal which will last the span of her parliamentry term and possibly longer A typical British fudge which probably more accurately reflects the mood of the nation than either staying in the EU or a cliff-edge Brexit would.
That being said, messages from the EU suggest they are gearing up for a more extreme Brexit than this so we'll have to see.
Interesting times.

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Great article. Good bits from that article:

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I can't believe how poorly written that article is, obviously grammar and structure do not apply to online journalists.

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It's not entirely obvious, but the bulk of the article comprises a series of tweets.

You can now also read the same news here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...treet-meeting/

http://news.sky.com/story/may-and-ju...sists-10859423

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...n-i-was-before

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This 50 billion figure is bandied about a lot but lets not forget the UK has contributed greatly to assets within the wider EU and would be entitled to some form of financial restitution so as normal the pro EU brigade are trying their usual doom and gloom scare tactics. It honestly stumps me how an approach that utterly failed by any measure is still employed and if as some constantly state the EU is so good for the UK why are all these benefits not being promoted rather then the constant barrage of negative bs. The EU is trying to appear strong and united in an attempt to intimidate the UK in the negotiations the only problem of course is they are neither strong nor united.

There is growing pressure in Germany to reach a deal that benefits both sides and even in france there isn't much enthusiasm for any protracted period of no trade deals between the EU and the UK. There are definately some in the UK who feel we should get on our knees and thank the EU for any crumbs they flick our way and it's disgusting that some are prepared to damage the UK to further their pro EU agenda. These negotiations are far more critical to the EU then to the UK at this point due to internal EU issue's that brussels is struggling to keep control of and keep out of the media. Personally i give it six months before things start leaking out and becoming public knowledge time is on the side of the UK.

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A good summary of how May has not been getting on with delivering Brexit. Noteworthy is how the EU27 are united but the UK is pulling in different directions with Scotland talking of another devolution referendum.
http://jackofkent.com/2017/04/the-th...job-on-brexit/

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This is far too simplistic an article to take seriously.

It should not be forgotten either that Brexit negotiations never were going to get off to a quick start, given the French and German elections this year.

I think it will become clear soon just how well prepared the May Government is.

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I think the EU 27 are united in fear that the UK could just walk away and leave Germany et al to pick up the majority of the £50bn bill. It's our ace in the hole. :)

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The author also has a book coming out from Oxford University Press “Brexit What Everyone Needs to Know” so should be taken pretty seriously.
Unfortunately, I think it's quite clear how prepared May's government is so far and the Brexit clock is ticking but I take your point on the elections. I don't think May is doing a great job as evidenced by the blog and recent events but by comparison to the other political parties in the UK she's superwoman! But we're negotiating with the EU, not Labour or the Liberal Democrats!

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I think we will soon find that it is Theresa that people trust.

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Think you're right there, we're seeing all the signs already !

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The EU has and always will be only interested in UK money it appears to be the only talking point coming from the EU. We want your money gimmie gimmie gimmie.

We have been mugs for far too long thinking we are part of the heads of the table to find we are actually at the bottom.

They have flavoured our country with little treats here and there just enough to get hooked on but not enough to get a say how much we want.

The sooner the talks start the better it might shut a lot of these stay moaners from going on and on and on.

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Good signs that it's going to be a hard brexit. Good.

EU are showing what set of pricks they really are.

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Yep and it takes a special sort of blindness not to be able to see that.

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Probably just as well you're not involved in negotiations Mick !

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better he does it in my opinion than be a pushover like we have been for such a long time.

Thats how they like it do as we say not as we do

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:tu:

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Yeh. bunch of dick heads.

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EU united lmao best joke I've heard for a while there is so much internal conflict right now i doubt the 27 could agree on a sandwich for lunch though i will concede brussels is doing a great job of keeping most of it out of the media not that much of the media are interested in EU failings far easier to short sell the UK.

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Despite Theresa May's speeches casting herself as negotiating with the EU27 and pledging to be a “bloody difficult woman”, the EU has advised that she can only negotiate with Michael Barnier.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...-may-23p7n9hf7 (subscription required for full article)

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http://news.sky.com/story/eu-could-d...-bill-10861192

BREXIT:- EU could demand €100bn exit divorce bill

What a set of pricks lol like we will pay that.

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with that amount we could fund a war and own europe ;)

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The EU haven't had their books signed off by the auditors for years because they can't add up.

They may get a nasty surprise when they find out there are two sides to the balance sheet!

These buffoons shouldn't be allowed to get within 10 miles of EU money, most of which is probably ours in the first place!

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Does that mean that the Prime Minister of the UK can no longer meet with or talk to any Prime Minister, President or Chancellor of any EU state?

Do you really think May and Banier will sit down one on one to negotiate Brexit?

What planet do you actually live on?

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Agreed. It's the EU that's living on a strange planet, not us!!

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There's really no need to throw in a personal insult just because you disagree with a report in The Times.

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Andrew, if it be true or not you appear in this thread to be a remoaner.

That said on any forum people normally post quotes from news outlets or other sources to back up their stance on a discussion.

On the other hand they may post quotes simply to refute them with the reasons why to prove thier point.

You do neither.

So I ask again, which planet are you on? It is not an insult (or intended as such) but an attempt to get you to discuss the issue rather than keep throwing in snippets from the Times. Unless you believe everything the Times reports.

Little hint, you only replied to my post due to a faux insult but didn't comment on the rest of the content.

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What planet do you live on? is an insult. How am I supposed to respond?
I'm on this thread because I'm interested in the UK leaving the EU as most people are.
Why is posting a link to an interesting article being a remoaner? Are you saying we shouldn't follow negotiations.
Some people post interesting article links, others use them to support their arguments. I don't have a monopoly in the way that I contribute to the forum, others make a contribution to the forum in the same way. I'd love to spend a lot of time adding my nuances to every news article but unfortunately I don't have time.
Little hint is also nnecessarily patronising.

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Good grief can we get back to the topic at hand ?

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lol, agree.

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Andrew, you really do care, way to much about what the EU thinks. Of course the Times will push that story, as they're a remain supporting paper.


If May wants to get involved, she will get involved and the EU will have to lump it. Please stop being scared of the EU and their threats.

Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
 

Tim Farron having a bad day ? I'd like to buy that Malcom a pint.