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1andrew1 16-05-2017 15:02

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35899041)
people seem more interested in taking a cheap shot at trump rather than stamping out isis .

If you were to share sensitive information on Isis with someone for their eyes only and they shared it with someone else, how likely would you be to share future information them again?
Hopefully, the leak will ensure Trump has learnt his lesson and he won't do such a daft thing in the future.

Damien 16-05-2017 15:18

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35899045)
Does that mean the Republicans were sad and pathetic saddos for complaining for 8 years when Obama was in office?

Imagine Clinton was accused of giving classified information....

Mr Banana 16-05-2017 15:35

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Get the feeling that Mick would still be worshiping Trump as the mushroom cloud appeared.

passingbat 16-05-2017 15:57

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35899048)
If you were to share sensitive information on Isis with someone for their eyes only and they shared it with someone else, how likely would you be to share future information them again?
Hopefully, the leak will ensure Trump has learnt his lesson and he won't do such a daft thing in the future.


Why don't people wait until more information is available before making a judgement? That's what I intend to do.

Mick 16-05-2017 16:23

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35899055)
Get the feeling that Mick would still be worshiping Trump as the mushroom cloud appeared.

Sigh. Total BS remark as usual from you.

I do not worship anybody, I just balance the debate because I am fed up of the lefties mocking democracy over Trump and or Brexit.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35899045)
Does that mean the Republicans were sad and pathetic saddos for complaining for 8 years when Obama was in office?

No. After 8 years, the period of time being the key here. He was a crap President. Drawing a red line over Syria but then doing nothing. He was a weak President. Continued to let Kim Fat-Un, in North Korea spin his threats and did nothing when he launched several under ground Nuclear tests in the Korean Peninsula.

GOP Complaining about him being totally justified for just being a sitting duck and lame President.

Trump, several months in office and the liberal, journalistic world is in meltdown, who will not accept she lost, should have chosen Bernie Sanders then, they backed the wrong horse and lost.

Democrats have nothing, they are in a minority in both chambers of Congress and they lost the White House, the only thing they have left is to piss and moan and protest and jump with the liberal journalists, whenever they think they have a negative scoop and all they care about is impeachment because they cannot accept she lost. :zzz:

Mr Banana 16-05-2017 16:55

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899062)
Sigh. Total BS remark as usual from you.

I do not worship anybody, I just balance the debate because I am fed up of the lefties mocking democracy over Trump and or Brexit.

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No. After 8 years, the period of time being the key here. He was a crap President. Drawing a red line over Syria but then doing nothing. He was a weak President. Continued to let Kim Fat-Un, in North Korea spin his threats and did nothing when he launched several under ground Nuclear tests in the Korean Peninsula.

GOP Complaining about him being totally justified for just being a sitting duck and lame President.

Trump, several months in office and the liberal, journalistic world is in meltdown, who will not accept she lost, should have chosen Bernie Sanders then, they backed the wrong horse and lost.

Democrats have nothing, they are in a minority in both chambers of Congress and they lost the White House, the only thing they have left is to piss and moan and protest and jump with the liberal journalists, whenever they think they have a negative scoop and all they care about is impeachment because they cannot accept she lost. :zzz:

There you go again Mick, trying to stereotype people, I don't like Trump and voted for Brexit so am I a leftie or just someone who thinks Trump in an absolute runt?

Mr K 16-05-2017 17:49

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899062)
Sigh. Total BS remark as usual from you.

A simple 'I don't agree' leaving out the personal abuse might have sufficed Mick, try it, might make for a nicer forum/debate :rolleyes:

Mick 16-05-2017 18:04

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35899068)
There you go again Mick, trying to stereotype people, I don't like Trump and voted for Brexit so am I a leftie or just someone who thinks Trump in an absolute runt?

You were on about me apparently worshiping Trump because I refuse to follow the sheep, who all they want to do is ride the negative train all the time about him, but saying stuff like 'I am a fan or I worship him' which is a totally immature remark and which is complete BS, I gave a reason why I add my two cents on here and about Trump and nowhere did I say you was a leftie, so no, there I don't go again at all.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35899072)
A simple 'I don't agree' leaving out the personal abuse might have sufficed Mick, try it, might make for a nicer forum/debate :rolleyes:

I'll take no lectures off you.

You need to get out more, there was no abuse there at all. :dozey:

Chris 16-05-2017 18:38

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Some analysis: https://reaction.life/america-voted-idiot-white-house/

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The simple fact is that America voted an idiot into the White House.

He doesn’t read and obviously doesn’t learn. He makes pronouncements based on sketchy – sometimes inaccurate – details. Despite his condemning serious newspapers as “fake news”, there is nobody in a position of power in the world more likely to respond to actual fake news – that is often deliberately placed in front of him. He makes judgements, sometimes involving the lives of serious, brave, and committed men and women, without the due care that presidents should exercise. He makes these mistakes not because he’s malicious but because he’s too ignorant to comprehend the consequences. He simply lacks the mental facilities to understand his duties as president – that critical intelligence that would make him aware of his own excesses of character and enable him to moderate his behavior because of that.

TheDaddy 16-05-2017 21:47

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35899083)

And that's why he's hilarious to have around, only trouble is when people start ending up dead because of him and they will, he's far to thin skinned to be in charge of a military without it ending badly.

Mick 16-05-2017 22:22

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35899083)

Some leftie liberal analysis more like. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35899109)
And that's why he's hilarious to have around, only trouble is when people start ending up dead because of him and they will, he's far to thin skinned to be in charge of a military without it ending badly.

People are dead because of him, 90+ ISIS Fighters to be precise when he dropped the Mother of all bombs on them not too long ago.

People whinging because he shared some ISIS Intel with the Russians, if it saves lives that is a bloody good thing.

What was it Obama was heard saying to former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, prior to Obama's 2nd Election win?

"I will have more flexibility after Election.'

Obama was talking about more flexibility on missile defence. Now WTF was he discussing military issues with the Russians? He was not aware his Mic had picked up what he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-election.html

Did not see the bloody saddo liberal press make a real song and dance about this back then. :rolleyes:

Damien 16-05-2017 22:30

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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/1....co/r8s5nFEc9q

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President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo that Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.

“I hope you can let this go,” the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo.

The existence of Mr. Trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and F.B.I. investigation into links between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia.


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Also Israel appears to be the source of the intelligence Trump shared with the Russians. http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Pol...ussians-490933

Mick 16-05-2017 22:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35899123)

Yet in that same article it says the Acting FBI Director said there had been no efforts to impede the investigation.

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In testimony to the Senate last week, the acting F.B.I. director, Andrew G. McCabe, said, “There has been no effort to impede our investigation to date.”
Andrew McCabe ain't no fan of Trump, so him saying this, rubbishes this apparent so called memo.

All these officials with apparent ties to the press..... Too convenient.

ianch99 16-05-2017 23:00

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35899083)

Following on from this: I noted Hugh's signature when reading this:

Trump’s ‘Dangerous Disability’? It’s the Dunning-Kruger Effect

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This is getting close to Will’s diagnosis of Donald Trump as a person who thinks he knows everything but in fact doesn’t know what it is to know something. The Dunning-Kruger effect and the knowledge illusion aren’t disorders, but are part and parcel of being human. Some people, however, are much more subject to these than others. And Trump seems to occupy an extreme end of the spectrum.

Is there any hope for Trump? His experience as president may make him more aware of how little he knows, said Sloman. Trump recently told reporters, for example, that “Nobody knew health care was so complicated.” He couldn’t quite bring himself to admit being wrong without sharing the blame with the rest of the world -– but perhaps it’s a start.
As Hugh says, it explains so much ..

Chris 16-05-2017 23:31

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899119)
Some leftie liberal analysis more like. :rolleyes:

Actually Reaction leans towards the right and libertarianism. It's precisely this reason that makes their criticism so stinging.

Mick 16-05-2017 23:40

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35899133)
Actually Reaction leans towards the right and libertarianism. It's precisely this reason that makes their criticism so stinging.

I did not find it stinging, at all. I found it totally inaccurate and far fetched.

passingbat 17-05-2017 00:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35899068)
I don't like Trump<snip> just someone who thinks Trump in an absolute runt?


Many who voted for him don't like him. But the important thing is his policies. Which ones do you disagree with? (I suspect any UK resident would disagree with any US healthcare policy)

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35899109)
he's far to thin skinned to be in charge of a military without it ending badly.


Which of his military overseas military actions have you disagreed with so far?

TheDaddy 17-05-2017 00:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899119)
Some leftie liberal analysis more like. :rolleyes:

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People are dead because of him, 90+ ISIS Fighters to be precise when he dropped the Mother of all bombs on them not too long ago.

People whinging because he shared some ISIS Intel with the Russians, if it saves lives that is a bloody good thing.

What was it Obama was heard saying to former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, prior to Obama's 2nd Election win?

"I will have more flexibility after Election.'

Obama was talking about more flexibility on missile defence. Now WTF was he discussing military issues with the Russians? He was not aware his Mic had picked up what he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-election.html

Did not see the bloody saddo liberal press make a real song and dance about this back then. :rolleyes:

It won't end there with them I'm sure of that

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35899137)
Which of his military overseas military actions have you disagreed with so far?

I disagreed with his inaction in Vietnam and more so his criticism of a genuine hero like john mccains service record when he did nothing

ianch99 17-05-2017 07:53

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Seems Donald has got himself into more hot water:

Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn Investigation

Damien 17-05-2017 08:50

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899127)
Yet in that same article it says the Acting FBI Director said there had been no efforts to impede the investigation.

Andrew McCabe ain't no fan of Trump, so him saying this, rubbishes this apparent so called memo.

All these officials with apparent ties to the press..... Too convenient.

Well we don't know yet. It appears this is just one of the documents Corney has according to the article and maybe he is waiting until congress calls him to justify to release more and enter testimony to the record.

The (Republican) head of the House Oversight Committee has already requested the memo and any other documents to investigate it. There may be nothing there but that's probably going to be decided by congress.

At this rate Trump is more likely to get in serious trouble over how he is acting over this investigation than anything the investigation, left to it's own devices, might find. It's often said that it's the cover-up that kills you but it's something else if that cover-up is of something that was never a problem in the first place.

Trump would do better to say 'there is nothing there, you go ahead with the investigation to confirm it' rather than acting up. If you're worried about partisan interference from congress than appoint a Special Prosecutor or an Independent bi-partisan commission. At the moment, even if there is nothing there at all, he isn't helping himself.

Pierre 17-05-2017 09:02

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Thing is, it's a scandal a day, so much so that it just becomes "noise".

I honestly just switch off now whenever I hear Trumps name, I'm past caring and I would suspect most of the population of the US feel the same.

Julian 17-05-2017 09:06

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35899157)
Thing is, it's a scandal a day, so much so that it just becomes "noise".

I honestly just switch off now whenever I hear Trumps name, I'm past caring and I would suspect most of the population of the US feel the same.

This.

It's tedious.

Damien 17-05-2017 09:29

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35899157)
Thing is, it's a scandal a day, so much so that it just becomes "noise".

I honestly just switch off now whenever I hear Trumps name, I'm past caring and I would suspect most of the population of the US feel the same.

The constant scandal isn't good for the White House though

papa smurf 17-05-2017 09:50

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35899159)
The constant scandal isn't good for the White House though

i feel sure they can sort it out themselves if they feel that there is a scandal ,this is just a daily plethora of rubbish trying to bring trump down ,it's not going to happen accept his presidency and move on . in 4 years the American people can vote him out if they wish i wouldn't hold your breath on that issue though .

OLD BOY 17-05-2017 10:01

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35899161)
i feel sure they can sort it out themselves if they feel that there is a scandal ,this is just a daily plethora of rubbish trying to bring trump down ,it's not going to happen accept his presidency and move on . in 4 years the American people can vote him out if they wish i wouldn't hold your breath on that issue though .

It's all very well to say that. The constant stream of inappropriate tweets, comments and worrying gaffs cannot be ignored. The sooner this Frank Spencer of a president is impeached, the safer we will all be, and maybe we can sleep more soundly at night.

papa smurf 17-05-2017 10:19

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35899165)
It's all very well to say that. The constant stream of inappropriate tweets, comments and worrying gaffs cannot be ignored. The sooner this Frank Spencer of a president is impeached, the safer we will all be, and maybe we can sleep more soundly at night.

i sleep just fine ,i don't know the Donald but i would guess he doesn't give a damn about others opinion of him , and i doubt the world is so unstable that a tweet is going to trigger oblivion .

Mr K 17-05-2017 10:28

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35899169)
i sleep just fine ,i don't know the Donald but i would guess he doesn't give a damn about others opinion of him , and i doubt the world is so unstable that a tweet is going to trigger oblivion .

the world's not that unstable but he might be....

Mick 17-05-2017 11:00

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35899156)
Well we don't know yet. It appears this is just one of the documents Corney has according to the article and maybe he is waiting until congress calls him to justify to release more and enter testimony to the record.

The (Republican) head of the House Oversight Committee has already requested the memo and any other documents to investigate it. There may be nothing there but that's probably going to be decided by congress.

At this rate Trump is more likely to get in serious trouble over how he is acting over this investigation than anything the investigation, left to it's own devices, might find. It's often said that it's the cover-up that kills you but it's something else if that cover-up is of something that was never a problem in the first place.

Trump would do better to say 'there is nothing there, you go ahead with the investigation to confirm it' rather than acting up. If you're worried about partisan interference from congress than appoint a Special Prosecutor or an Independent bi-partisan commission. At the moment, even if there is nothing there at all, he isn't helping himself.

There has not been a cover up though. The investigation still is ongoing McCabe, acting FBI Director made a legal testimony that there had been no effort to impede the investigation. If there was ever a trial with Trump in the dock, I'd say this was a start to great defence.

If Trump said 'I hope you can let this go, Flynn is a good guy' and Comey has apparently said in response, 'I agree, he is a good guy.' Comey is hanging himself out to dry for sitting on this, if true and not reporting the alleged conversation with congress at the time. Democrats can scream obstruction of justice, impeachment blah blah, all they want but from a legal standpoint, no crime has been committed because the investigation is still ongoing, firing Comey did not and would not stop it.

I was watching CNN last night and even they had a lawyer on saying it was not obstruction of justice. That Comey sitting on this, if it's true, that him doing nothing, could see himself in trouble.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35899173)
the world's not that unstable but he might be....

I can think of a few unstable individuals, those specifically who mock democracy and cherish the EU, and don't see it for what it really is. A totally corrupt pile of garbage.

Damien 17-05-2017 11:05

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899180)
There has not been a cover up though. The investigation still is ongoing McCabe, acting FBI Director made a legal testimony that there had been no effort to impede the investigation. If there was ever a trial with Trump in the dock, I'd say this was a start to great defence.

The acting FBI director was referring to the investigation into Russian interference. The Flynn investigation is apparently separate. Either way we also have the previous FBI director, maybe, saying otherwise. It's not a conclusive case by any means but if he testifies to congress the story might move on.

The Wall Street Journal is reporting there may be more to come: https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-a...tor-1494974774

So we wait and see.

passingbat 17-05-2017 12:54

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899180)

I was watching CNN last night .


I hope you applied an antidote with a dose of Fox news ;):D

Osem 17-05-2017 13:00

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So Putin reckons he has records which will clear Trump of giving away secrets. The thing is can they be trusted?... :spin:

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Vladimir Putin has said he is willing to provide a transcript of Donald Trump's meeting with senior Russian officials, insisting the US President did not share classified intelligence.

The Russian President said he would not share the audio recording of Mr Trump's meeting with foreign minister Sergey Lavrov but would be prepared to provide the transcript, according to a Kremlin aide.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7740416.html

Mick 17-05-2017 13:53

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Trump doesn't need to justify himself on the sharing of information, he has had his surrogates backing him up saying no secrets were shared and has been said already, even if Trump did, he is the executive branch and has the authority to declassify anything he seems fit.

The problem at the moment in the White House is leakers, people trying to stitch Trump up by running to the liberal Press with so called conversations. I said this at the start of his Presidency, there will be people around him always attempting to stick the knife in.

I have come to the conclusion that while the Founding Fathers attempted to create a perfect democratic system with checks and balances over 200 years ago, their workings are flawed because there is this constant rivalry and in fighting and that in some instance, while there is an official government, there is a secret government in play that tries all it can to unpick the official one. You only have to way up history and the Asassination of President John F. Kennedy and the conspiracy surrounding it, with fingers pointing at the CIA with assumption being they did not like the Kennedy's.

Damien 17-05-2017 15:08

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They didn't want a king.

Although I think you're referring more to the bureaucracy rather than the balances of powers?

Mick 17-05-2017 15:34

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35899232)
They didn't want a king.

Although I think you're referring more to the bureaucracy rather than the balances of powers?

Yes, something like that, while I understand the workings of the Electoral College, it's the inner workings of the Constitution that I think sometimes it may be flawed.

There should be a independent system that does the checks and balances, right now it depends on political parties, who naturally have an axe to grind with their opposition. I absolutely agree Trump needs to be investigated but by a non-biased political entity.

Damien 17-05-2017 19:33

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899238)
Yes, something like that, while I understand the workings of the Electoral College, it's the inner workings of the Constitution that I think sometimes it may be flawed.

I think you would get resistance from almost any democratic system if the bureaucracy is uncooperative. Imagine how the civil service could cripple the government here if they really wanted. The United States, for better or worse, has more political appointments than we do though. I prefer our system as moving staff in and out of positions every 4/8 years seems inefficient.

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There should be a independent system that does the checks and balances, right now it depends on political parties, who naturally have an axe to grind with their opposition. I absolutely agree Trump needs to be investigated but by a non-biased political entity.
Well the judiciary is the third, independent, branch. Many judges are political appointees but are then immune from political interference. Trump has the other branch in the hands of the Republicans.

A special prosecutor is the best solution here. Independent of congress and the White House.

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Chaffez has officially invited Corney to testify next Wednesday: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...dnesday-238512

OLD BOY 17-05-2017 19:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35899173)
the world's not that unstable but he might be....

It's the unstable individuals who make an unstable world.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35899169)
i sleep just fine ,i don't know the Donald but i would guess he doesn't give a damn about others opinion of him , and i doubt the world is so unstable that a tweet is going to trigger oblivion .

I presume you take sleeping tablets, then, assuming you do want us all to survive.

Diplomacy can be pretty tricky sometimes, particularly when dealing with other unstable leaders. I believe a beligerent tweet could indeed stir a hostile reaction from some of these monsters.

Donald Trump has no manners and no finesse and I am not confident that we will all survive the remaining three and a half years of his 'rule' without something very regrettable happening.

The only happy ending I can envisage is that The Donald decides to go to Pyongyang to sort its Dear Leader out once and for all and nobody gets up to stop him.

papa smurf 17-05-2017 20:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35899282)
It's the unstable individuals who make an unstable world.

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I presume you take sleeping tablets, then, assuming you do want us all to survive.

Diplomacy can be pretty tricky sometimes, particularly when dealing with other unstable leaders. I believe a beligerent tweet could indeed stir a hostile reaction from some of these monsters.

Donald Trump has no manners and no finesse and I am not confident that we will all survive the remaining three and a half years of his 'rule' without something very regrettable happening.

The only happy ending I can envisage is that The Donald decides to go to Pyongyang to sort its Dear Leader out once and for all and nobody gets up to stop him.

i invested in a tin foil table cloth and now i sleep under the table .

passingbat 17-05-2017 20:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35899282)

The only happy ending I can envisage is that The Donald decides to go to Pyongyang to sort its Dear Leader out once and for all and nobody gets up to stop him.


So, you're scared that Trump will blow up the world but want him to attack North Korea :confused:


Trump is trying a more peaceful solution by building good relations with China to put pressure on North Korea. Who's the dumb/smart one in this scenario?


Trump along with Brexit is standing up against globalisation; a big thrust of which is done via multinational trade deals. He has cancelled TPP, TTIP (now dead) would never have got off the ground under Trump and NAFTA will be renegotiated. Obama and Hillary were/are globalists. Trump is bringing jobs back to the US and has cut illegal immigration from Mexico by 70% since taking office. He has appointed a Supreme court judge with traditional moral standards, repealed the Johnson amendment, giving all religions freedom of political views without financial penalties and curtailed lobbying. And shown that there is someone in charge who will not let a red line be crossed when he strategically attacked Syria.


Those with liberal views hate these things, hence outrage.

Mr K 17-05-2017 20:52

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Yes Trump is indeed the Second Coming and we can all be grateful. Seems to be going down well in the US too.
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Trump is hitting new approval lows at precisely the wrong time
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...he-wrong-time/
Liberal bleeding country, they don't realise how lucky they are...

Gavin78 17-05-2017 22:29

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I thin Trump will do well he hasn't fallen into a YES person that is why the system is all over the place at the minute. 12 months from now we'll see a different and better kind of America

Damien 18-05-2017 08:48

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The Deputy Attorney General has appointed a 'special counsel' to oversee the Russian investigation.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rober...es_bsq_related

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The United States Department of Justice has announced that a special counsel has been appointed to investigate Russian interference into last year's presidential election and links or coordination with the campaign of President Donald Trump.
Trump and the White House were only told 30 minutes before the announcement but didn't react badly apparently. I think they must have known this was coming at some point.

I think it's a better outcome for Trump really. I suspect that for him this was end up being a Clinton-level e-mail scandal. That there is evidence of poor behavior but nothing illegal. Maybe some of his advisers might be in trouble (Flynn etc). But Trump was heading for serious trouble just because he seems to put his foot in it. Any investigation he has power over was bound to cause trouble. As it's independent he can't do that and it also avoids questioning for now because all sides can just say 'it's being investigated'.

Flynn though might be trouble: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/poli...151149702.html

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One of the Trump administration’s first decisions about the fight against the Islamic State was made by Michael Flynn weeks before he was fired – and it conformed to the wishes of Turkey, whose interests, unbeknownst to anyone in Washington, he’d been paid more than $500,000 to represent.
He seems to have made a decision about the United States foreign policy that helped Turkey who was paying him! :O

TheDaddy 18-05-2017 09:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35899327)
The Deputy Attorney General has appointed a 'special counsel' to oversee the Russian investigation.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rober...es_bsq_related



Trump and the White House were only told 30 minutes before the announcement but didn't react badly apparently. I think they must have known this was coming at some point.

I think it's a better outcome for Trump really. I suspect that for him this was end up being a Clinton-level e-mail scandal. That there is evidence of poor behavior but nothing illegal. Maybe some of his advisers might be in trouble (Flynn etc). But Trump was heading for serious trouble just because he seems to put his foot in it. Any investigation he has power over was bound to cause trouble. As it's independent he can't do that and it also avoids questioning for now because all sides can just say 'it's being investigated'.

Flynn though might be trouble: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/poli...151149702.html



He seems to have made a decision about the United States foreign policy that helped Turkey who was paying him! :O

Seems like he might not have been the only one taking payments from a foreign power

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...e8c_story.html

Osem 18-05-2017 10:34

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I think the best thing that Trump could do is to shut down his social media account and spend a bit more time thinking about what he says and does. I dare say there are many decent people around him who're pulling their hair out with frustration.

Mr K 18-05-2017 10:53

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35899349)
I think the best thing that Trump could do is to shut down his social media account and spend a bit more time thinking about what he says and does. I dare say there are many decent people around him who're pulling their hair out with frustration.

There are no decent people around him, that's his problem.

Damien 18-05-2017 11:00

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35899349)
I think the best thing that Trump could do is to shut down his social media account and spend a bit more time thinking about what he says and does. I dare say there are many decent people around him who're pulling their hair out with frustration.

I think he needs to fire some of his staff. Get some who'll tell him when he is going off the reservation and filter his twitter feed. There is no way a competent staff with permission to control his twitter account would have allowed that tweet about Obama tapping his phones or the suggestion he has taped his conversations with Corney.

Osem 18-05-2017 12:04

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35899352)
I think he needs to fire some of his staff. Get some who'll tell him when he is going off the reservation and filter his twitter feed. There is no way a competent staff with permission to control his twitter account would have allowed that tweet about Obama tapping his phones or the suggestion he has taped his conversations with Corney.

That too possibly. It'd be interesting to know whether he has been warned by advisors but chosen to ignore that advice in which case we might have expected some resignations by now wouldn't we? :shrug:

Damien 18-05-2017 12:48

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
He's off again: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...69927644340224

Quote:

With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!

1andrew1 18-05-2017 22:25

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35899358)

That link no longer works -the spelling has been corrected and the new link is:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...07118785372160

Osem 18-05-2017 22:35

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
He might well be right about the double standards but he just needs to shut up and think before he tweets. Right now he's just giving his enemies the ammunition to shoot him with.

I think I might come up with an app which delays all social media messages, texts etc by 24 hours just to allow people time to calm down before they react to events and make fools of themselves. Maybe I could become a cyber-millionaire... :)

1andrew1 18-05-2017 23:21

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
I suspect US intelligence will be doing a bit of grovelling to Israel at the moment!
Quote:

Don’t trust US president with Israel’s secrets, say ex-Mossad chiefs
Two former heads of the Mossad have urged Israel to withhold intelligence from the US after President Trump passed classified information to the Russians.
Danny Yatom, a former director of the spy agency, called the leak a “grave violation” and said Israel should “punish” Washington for it. “We need to abstain from transferring information to [Trump], or to only give him partial information, so that he can’t endanger a source,” said Mr Yatom, who led the agency from 1999 to 2001.
His predecessor, Shabtai Shavit, suggested that the new president was a danger to Israeli assets.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/w...ssad-0qrrktmzf (subscription needed for full article)

---------- Post added at 23:21 ---------- Previous post was at 23:19 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35899431)
He might well be right about the double standards but he just needs to shut up and think before he tweets. Right now he's just giving his enemies the ammunition to shoot him with.

I think I might come up with an app which delays all social media messages, texts etc by 24 hours just to allow people time to calm down before they react to events and make fools of themselves. Maybe I could become a cyber-millionaire... :)

The singer Adele says her management don't allow her to use Twitter herself because she's a bit hot-headed on it. Trump should follow this advice as well.

RizzyKing 18-05-2017 23:45

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Israel needs to be careful given their reliance on the US and trumps habit of knee jerk response style they need the US a lot more then the US needs them. Trump does need someone to calm him and post on social media more relaxed then he has in the past. I expected there to be a period of adjustment for donald trump from businessman to politician and that it could take a while but he isn't making progress at the rate he needs too. While i still believe he was a better choice then clinton he needs to start rising to the job rather then allowing himself to be constantly distracted by the washington establishment and the liberal press and he needs to get the investigation into russia handled.

TheDaddy 19-05-2017 00:14

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35899445)
Israel needs to be careful given their reliance on the US and trumps habit of knee jerk response style they need the US a lot more then the US needs them. Trump does need someone to calm him and post on social media more relaxed then he has in the past. I expected there to be a period of adjustment for donald trump from businessman to politician and that it could take a while but he isn't making progress at the rate he needs too. While i still believe he was a better choice then clinton he needs to start rising to the job rather then allowing himself to be constantly distracted by the washington establishment and the liberal press and he needs to get the investigation into russia handled.

Why would israel be careful, they never have been before

http://www.newsweek.com/israels-aggr...-hushed-250278

RizzyKing 19-05-2017 01:17

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
If nothing else the military and financial support they gain from the US which is an increasing bone of contention with many in the US and i suspect more would be happy for trump to cut it then those who would not. Also as good as mossad is they are heavily reliant on US provided intelligence and resources and could not easily replace that capability.

Mick 19-05-2017 02:27

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
So, this so called ghost memo appears, apparently written by the fired former FBI Director, James Comey and this memo is suppose to outline that Comey was pressured to drop the Flynn investigation by Trump....

...But hold on a tick, on May 3rd just over two weeks ago, months after this so called Feb meeting with Trump and Comey, Comey Testifies under oath that in his experience, the FBI has not been told for political reasons to drop any investigation.....


Damien 19-05-2017 08:36

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899452)
So, this so called ghost memo appears, apparently written by the fired former FBI Director, James Comey and this memo is suppose to outline that Comey was pressured to drop the Flynn investigation by Trump....

...But hold on a tick, on May 3rd just over two weeks ago, months after this so called Feb meeting with Trump and Comey, Comey Testifies under oath that in his experience, the FBI has not been told for political reasons to drop any investigation.....


The questioner is referring to the Attorney General or Department of Justice and if they can halt it. Since the accusation here is that it was the White House it doesn't contradict that statement so he won't get in trouble about being under oath.

Either way we'll see if Corney has anything more substantive to the accusation next week.

papa smurf 19-05-2017 08:41

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35899466)
The questioner is referring to the Attorney General or Department of Justice and if they can halt it. Since the accusation here is that it was the White House it doesn't contradict that statement so he won't get in trouble about being under oath.

Either way we'll see if Corney has anything more substantive to the accusation next week.

that's very liberal of you to forgive a lie under oath ,one assumes it is of course a one sided event and no forgiveness would be afforded to the accused your honor .

Mick 19-05-2017 10:22

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35899466)
The questioner is referring to the Attorney General or Department of Justice and if they can halt it. Since the accusation here is that it was the White House it doesn't contradict that statement so he won't get in trouble about being under oath.

Either way we'll see if Corney has anything more substantive to the accusation next week.

Sorry but I disagree. Comey specifically says, 'I'm talking about a sitiuation where the FBI is told to stop doing something, for political reasons, that would be a very big deal, it's not happened in my experience.'

No where in that sentence does he say, 'It's not happened in my experience, but saying that, the President of the United States did ask me to halt it.'

Comey saying in his testimony that it's a big deal to be told to stop an FBI investigation, that he should not have said under Oath, that it has not happened in his experience, he said it twice.

No one has seen this memo, it was dictated down the phone to the New York Times reporter by an anonymous source. Too convenient in my book.

Lots of lawyers and Attorneys backing Trump on this one.

For Comey to come out now and be asked, did the President of the United States, tell you to end Flynn investigation? And he says, yes, as an investigation committee member, I would be referring to his May 3rd testimony and say, 'So, Mr Comey, did you tell a lie, under oath, that in your experience, being told to stop an investigation for political reasons never happened and when you made that statement, again under oath, if it was such a big deal for the FBI to be told to stop an investigation, surely it's an even bigger deal, that an instruction is passed to you by the President of the United States?'

1andrew1 19-05-2017 10:36

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35899467)
that's very liberal of you to forgive a lie under oath ,one assumes it is of course a one sided event and no forgiveness would be afforded to the accused your honor .

Damien has not said that he lied under oath and forgives him. #strawman

1andrew1 20-05-2017 10:47

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Well, that worked out well didn't it?

Quote:

President Trump told Russians 'firing nut job Comey relieved pressure'
Donald Trump told Russian diplomats firing "nut job" FBI director James Comey relieved "great pressure", The New York Times reports.
The paper said the comments came from the White House's written account of the Oval Office meeting.
One official had read quotations to the Times and another had confirmed the broad outlines of the discussion.
The report quotes Mr Trump as calling ousted FBI director James Comey "crazy" and "a real nut job".
It says the President then told Russia's foreign minister and ambassador that he "faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off".
Mr Trump met with the Russians on 10 May - the day after Mr Comey was fired.
http://news.sky.com/story/president-...ssure-10884848

But it will be interesting to hear Coney's testimony

Trump arrives in Saudi Arabia as Comey agrees to testify

papa smurf 20-05-2017 10:59

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35899602)
Well, that worked out well didn't it?


http://news.sky.com/story/president-...ssure-10884848

But it will be interesting to hear Coney's testimony

Trump arrives in Saudi Arabia as Comey agrees to testify

the testimony of a bitter ex employee who's career is in the toilet

Mick 20-05-2017 11:58

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35899602)
Well, that worked out well didn't it?


http://news.sky.com/story/president-...ssure-10884848

But it will be interesting to hear Coney's testimony

Trump arrives in Saudi Arabia as Comey agrees to testify

Oh look another story sourced by the New York Times from a Anonymous American official thats apparently been dictated and then confirmed by another anonymous official. FFS wake up.

1andrew1 20-05-2017 12:14

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899614)
Oh look another story sourced by the New York Times from a Anonymous American official thats apparently been dictated and then confirmed by another anonymous official. FFS wake up.

The fact that's its reported globally suggests the likelihood of the New York Times making it up is slim. It's not InfoWars or something. Like it or loathe it, it's an authoritative source holding those in priviliged positions of power to account.

Mick 20-05-2017 12:42

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
I think it's a pile of crap, so does my anonymous friend, who wants to stay annonymous because his anonymous friend confirmed it with me, that he does.

Damien 20-05-2017 12:48

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Worth remembering it was the New York Times that broke the Clinton e-mail story. Anonymous sources are normal in journalism as well, without them watergate wouldn't have been revealed. It's much harder to expose corruption if the person speaking out has to be named. We don't know the name of the person who revealed the expenses scandal
Here either. Those who want to suppress anonymous sources are helping the powerful avoid being held to account.

---------- Post added at 12:48 ---------- Previous post was at 12:46 ----------

Also when asked the White House didn't deny it but said it was pressure put on by Corney by his grandstanding rather than the investigation itself.

1andrew1 20-05-2017 13:00

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899624)
I think it's a pile of crap, so does my anonymous friend, who wants to stay annonymous because his anonymous friend confirmed it with me, that he does.

I get that you think that but this is how journalism which keeps the elites like Trump and Clinton in check works.

passingbat 20-05-2017 13:15

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35899617)
Like it or loathe it, it's an authoritative source holding those in priviliged positions of power to account.


It's a news source with links to the Bilderberg group who has hidden the Bilderberg's anti Sovereign state, globalist views from it's audience. That stance alone makes it anti Trump.


Trump may be guilty of collusion, or not; I don't know. But regarding the NY Times as an unbiased source is simply crazy, and shows that no research has been done regarding any agenda that they may be pushing

1andrew1 20-05-2017 13:21

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35899631)
It's a news source with links to the Bilderberg group who has hidden the Bilderberg's anti Sovereign state, globalist views from it's audience. That stance alone makes it anti Trump.

Trump may be guilty of collusion, or not; I don't know. But regarding the NY Times as an unbiased source is simply crazy, and shows that no research has been done regarding any agenda that they may be pushing

That's a straw man argument, no one is claiming any sources are unbiased.

passingbat 20-05-2017 13:25

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35899632)
That's a straw man argument, no one is claiming any sources are unbiased.


No, it was an understand where sources are coming from, agenda wise, argument.

1andrew1 20-05-2017 13:42

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35899633)
No, it was an understand where sources are coming from, agenda wise, argument.

You state "But regarding the NY Times as an unbiased source is simply crazy" but no one has said it is unbiased.

It is an authoritative source and has been going since 1851. It is known as a paper of record.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-New-York-Times

Mick 20-05-2017 13:46

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35899632)
That's a straw man argument, no one is claiming any sources are unbiased.

NYT and Washington Post have shown they have a complete axe to grind with Trump, so much so that even most of those who can't stand Trump even see the obsessive behaviour. I read the NYT article but I always read comments section and there was few calling out BS and that they needed to start naming sources, far too easy to concoct a story from thin air and claim it's from an anonymous source.

It was so corny that these two liberal news outlets both posted a story at the time Trump boarded Air Force one.

1andrew1 20-05-2017 14:11

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899635)
NYT and Washington Post have shown they have a complete axe to grind with Trump, so much so that even most of those who can't stand Trump even see the obsessive behaviour. I read the NYT article but I always read comments section and there was few calling out BS and that they needed to start naming sources, far too easy to concoct a story from thin air and claim it's from an anonymous source.

It was so corny that these two liberal news outlets both posted a story at the time Trump boarded Air Force one.

Sometimes you simply only have anonymous sources to go on. It's not a case of "Do the invoices exist?" or "Is there an x-ray?" Journalists have to make judgments. Poor judgments will result in those newspapers failing. The fact that the New York Times has been going since 1851 and has a robust investigative record suggests the paper generally gets it right.

There will obviously be a few Trumpsters or Hillaryheads commenting on every article but I doubt they're investigative reporters.

Mick 20-05-2017 14:23

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35899638)
Sometimes you simply only have anonymous sources to go on. It's not a case of "Do the invoices exist?" or "Is there an x-ray?" Journalists have to make judgments. Poor judgments will result in those newspapers failing. The fact that the New York Times has been going since 1851 and has a robust investigative record suggests the paper generally gets it right.

There will obviously be a few Trumpsters or Hillaryheads commenting on every article but I doubt they're investigative reporters.

I don't care how long it's been going, it still needs to provide solid proof, I believe these so called memos have not yet surfaced from the other day. But even that story was garbage given that Comey testified only weeks ago that the FBI, in his experience, which means his tenure with the department, has never been instructed to halt an investigation.

Damien 20-05-2017 14:29

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
The memos might come up on Wednesday. Anonymous sources won't go away, it's too hard to get news otherwise, they're common in both right and left wing media.

papa smurf 20-05-2017 15:06

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35899647)
The memos might come up on Wednesday. Anonymous sources won't go away, it's too hard to get news otherwise, they're common in both right and left wing media.

very common in a stitch up campaign ,and of course no one to question .

passingbat 20-05-2017 15:19

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35899634)

It is an authoritative source


So, why didn't they come clean on the true aims of the Bilderberg group? They were at the meetings. They were thanked by David Rockefeller for hiding the Bilderberg true agenda.

1andrew1 20-05-2017 16:29

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35899661)
So, why didn't they come clean on the true aims of the Bilderberg group? They were at the meetings. They were thanked by David Rockefeller for hiding the Bilderberg true agenda.

This is veering way off topic but I think you'll find he was being ironic.

Hugh 20-05-2017 17:02

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35899661)
So, why didn't they come clean on the true aims of the Bilderberg group? They were at the meetings. They were thanked by David Rockefeller for hiding the Bilderberg true agenda.

So, do the Bilderberg Group run the Illuminati, or is it the other way around?

1andrew1 20-05-2017 18:13

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35899673)
So, do the Bilderberg Group run the Illuminati, or is it the other way around?

And does Trump run the Shadow Brokers or is that too the other way around?

Mr Banana 20-05-2017 19:57

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Pity the buffoon can't remember his previous tweets

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...39957426999297

Mick 20-05-2017 21:50

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35899681)
Pity the buffoon can't remember his previous tweets

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...39957426999297

Pity you are unable to process the idea they came to some understanding before they landed, perhaps the Saudis warming to Women's rights which is surely progress from two years ago? :rolleyes:

Never mind I suppose the $300 Billion Arms deal they just made means the Saudi King was not that upset with FLOTUS.

Mr Banana 20-05-2017 22:11

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899697)
Pity you are unable to process the idea they came to some understanding before they landed, perhaps the Saudis warming to Women's rights which is surely progress from two years ago? :rolleyes:

Never mind I suppose the $300 Billion Arms deal they just made means the Saudi King was not that upset with FLOTUS.

Christ Mick you really are blinkered. The bloke tweeted a snipe at the previous presidents wife and then his wife did exactly the same.

Mick 20-05-2017 22:27

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35899698)
Christ Mick you really are blinkered. The bloke tweeted a snipe at the previous presidents wife and then his wife did exactly the same.

So bloody what? Is life that boring for you, head stuck in the past ?

As I said, perhaps they came to some arrangement. Nothing to do with being blinkered. I don't have the time to be blinkered.

Also try not to be blasphemous, there are Devout Christians about this forum who will not appreciate it.

Mr Banana 20-05-2017 22:31

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899701)
So bloody what? Is life that boring for you, head stuck in the past ?

As I said, perhaps they came to some arrangement. Nothing to do with being blinkered. I don't have the time to be blinkered.

Also try not to be blasphemous, there are devout Christians about this forum who will not appreciate it.

No Mick, my life's not boring at all, I have a great life thanks and please don't swear this forum member doesn't like it.

Mick 20-05-2017 22:44

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35899702)
please don't swear this forum member doesn't like it.

Yeah sure. Either way. Tough luck. :dozey:

Mr K 20-05-2017 22:44

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899701)
So bloody what? Is life that boring for you, head stuck in the past ?

As I said, perhaps they came to some arrangement. Nothing to do with being blinkered. I don't have the time to be blinkered.

Also try not to be blasphemous, there are Devout Christians about this forum who will not appreciate it.

Blasphemous would be anything that shows Trump in a bad light Mick ;). i.e every time he tweets/speaks...

Mr Banana 20-05-2017 22:58

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899705)
Yeah sure. Either way. Tough luck. :dozey:

Ah ok, so we are all ok to use swear word on the forum now then?

Hugh 20-05-2017 23:20

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899697)
Pity you are unable to process the idea they came to some understanding before they landed, perhaps the Saudis warming to Women's rights which is surely progress from two years ago? :rolleyes:

Never mind I suppose the $300 Billion Arms deal they just made means the Saudi King was not that upset with FLOTUS.

Can you show us some examples of what these 'warming to Womens rights' are, please?

btw, according to Sean Spicer, the deal is worth $109.7 billion.

Quote:

Sean Spicer
@PressSec

In Saudi Arabia @POTUS has just completed largest single arms deal in US history, negotiating a package totaling more than $109.7 billion

20/05/2017 15:29

Mick 20-05-2017 23:22

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35899708)
Ah ok, so we are all ok to use swear word on the forum now then?

Certain words are allowed and have been for some time. There are ones still in the filter that obviously still cannot be used.

---------- Post added at 23:22 ---------- Previous post was at 23:21 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35899711)
Can you show us some examples of what these 'warming to Womens rights' are, please?

No. I did say perhaps with a question mark. Did you miss this ? :dozey:

Hugh 20-05-2017 23:25

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899712)
Certain words are allowed and have been for some time. There are ones still in the filter that obviously still cannot be used.

---------- Post added at 23:22 ---------- Previous post was at 23:21 ----------



No. I did say perhaps with a question mark. Did you miss this ? :dozey:

So, an unsupported supposition?

Fake news, perhaps? ;)

Mick 20-05-2017 23:30

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35899716)
So, an unsupported supposition?

Fake news, perhaps? ;)

Can you provide examples where it's not supported, instead of doing your usual silly winking?

1andrew1 20-05-2017 23:45

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899712)
Certain words are allowed and have been for some time. There are ones still in the filter that obviously still cannot be used.

Can I nominate the phrases "Trump lied" and "Trump is wrong" as candidates for the swear filter. It would make oversight of this thread a lot more explicit :D

Hugh 21-05-2017 00:19

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899717)
Can you provide examples where it's not supported, instead of doing your usual silly winking?

Erm, you put forward the statement, up to you to support it, not me to disprove it..

There is only progress if there is evidence to support it.

Otherwise, as you are so fond of saying, "fake news".

pip08456 21-05-2017 01:29

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35899724)
Erm, you put forward the statement, up to you to support it, not me to disprove it..

There is only progress if there is evidence to support it.

Otherwise, as you are so fond of saying, "fake news".

Sorry Hugh, I have to support Mick here.

He did not put forward a statement so there is nothing he needs to support.

Statements don't end with a question mark, they normally end with either a full stop or !

Mick 21-05-2017 01:47

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35899724)
Erm, you put forward the statement, up to you to support it, not me to disprove it..

There is only progress if there is evidence to support it.

Otherwise, as you are so fond of saying, "fake news".

Erm nothing, clearly you don't know difference from a statement to a question !

1andrew1 21-05-2017 09:04

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35899697)
Pity you are unable to process the idea they came to some understanding before they landed, perhaps the Saudis warming to Women's rights which is surely progress from two years ago? :rolleyes:

Technically, there are two elements to the last part of Mick's sentence:
1. "perhaps the Saudis warming to Women's rights" which is formally a statement and doesn't have a question mark after it.
2. "which is surely progress from two years ago?" which is formally a question and does have a question mark after it.

From what Mick has subsequently added, he feels both are questions. As the poster, the onus would be on Mick to prove something and not for Hugh to disprove it.

papa smurf 21-05-2017 09:27

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35899737)
Technically, there are two elements to the last part of Mick's sentence:
1. "perhaps the Saudis warming to Women's rights" which is formally a statement and doesn't have a question mark after it.
2. "which is surely progress from two years ago?" which is formally a question and does have a question mark after it.

From what Mick has subsequently added, he feels both are questions. As the poster, the onus would be on Mick to prove something and not for Hugh to disprove it.

picked the wrong side again - not sure if that's a statement or a question ;)

1andrew1 21-05-2017 10:47

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35899739)
picked the wrong side again - not sure if that's a statement or a question ;)

I don't like to pick a side. We're all in this together. ;)

Mick 21-05-2017 11:33

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35899737)
Technically, there are two elements to the last part of Mick's sentence:
1. "perhaps the Saudis warming to Women's rights" which is formally a statement and doesn't have a question mark after it.
2. "which is surely progress from two years ago?" which is formally a question and does have a question mark after it.

From what Mick has subsequently added, he feels both are questions. As the poster, the onus would be on Mick to prove something and not for Hugh to disprove it.

Thanks for that fine forensic analysis, however....

.... You get 0/10 For your English skills today, starting the question, which it was, starting with perhaps and ending the same sentence as a whole, which it was, was a question. So no it is not on me to support a question at all.

Damien 21-05-2017 21:45

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
I think Passingbat might be right about the illuminati.

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papa smurf 21-05-2017 21:47

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35899802)
I think Passingbat might be right about the illuminati.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2017/05/14.jpg

a picture of four 40 watt bulbs :)


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