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Hopefully, the leak will ensure Trump has learnt his lesson and he won't do such a daft thing in the future. |
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Get the feeling that Mick would still be worshiping Trump as the mushroom cloud appeared.
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Why don't people wait until more information is available before making a judgement? That's what I intend to do. |
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I do not worship anybody, I just balance the debate because I am fed up of the lefties mocking democracy over Trump and or Brexit. ---------- Post added at 16:23 ---------- Previous post was at 16:22 ---------- Quote:
GOP Complaining about him being totally justified for just being a sitting duck and lame President. Trump, several months in office and the liberal, journalistic world is in meltdown, who will not accept she lost, should have chosen Bernie Sanders then, they backed the wrong horse and lost. Democrats have nothing, they are in a minority in both chambers of Congress and they lost the White House, the only thing they have left is to piss and moan and protest and jump with the liberal journalists, whenever they think they have a negative scoop and all they care about is impeachment because they cannot accept she lost. :zzz: |
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Some analysis: https://reaction.life/america-voted-idiot-white-house/
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People whinging because he shared some ISIS Intel with the Russians, if it saves lives that is a bloody good thing. What was it Obama was heard saying to former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, prior to Obama's 2nd Election win? "I will have more flexibility after Election.' Obama was talking about more flexibility on missile defence. Now WTF was he discussing military issues with the Russians? He was not aware his Mic had picked up what he said. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-election.html Did not see the bloody saddo liberal press make a real song and dance about this back then. :rolleyes: |
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All these officials with apparent ties to the press..... Too convenient. |
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Trump’s ‘Dangerous Disability’? It’s the Dunning-Kruger Effect Quote:
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Many who voted for him don't like him. But the important thing is his policies. Which ones do you disagree with? (I suspect any UK resident would disagree with any US healthcare policy) Quote:
Which of his military overseas military actions have you disagreed with so far? |
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Seems Donald has got himself into more hot water:
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The (Republican) head of the House Oversight Committee has already requested the memo and any other documents to investigate it. There may be nothing there but that's probably going to be decided by congress. At this rate Trump is more likely to get in serious trouble over how he is acting over this investigation than anything the investigation, left to it's own devices, might find. It's often said that it's the cover-up that kills you but it's something else if that cover-up is of something that was never a problem in the first place. Trump would do better to say 'there is nothing there, you go ahead with the investigation to confirm it' rather than acting up. If you're worried about partisan interference from congress than appoint a Special Prosecutor or an Independent bi-partisan commission. At the moment, even if there is nothing there at all, he isn't helping himself. |
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Thing is, it's a scandal a day, so much so that it just becomes "noise".
I honestly just switch off now whenever I hear Trumps name, I'm past caring and I would suspect most of the population of the US feel the same. |
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It's tedious. |
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If Trump said 'I hope you can let this go, Flynn is a good guy' and Comey has apparently said in response, 'I agree, he is a good guy.' Comey is hanging himself out to dry for sitting on this, if true and not reporting the alleged conversation with congress at the time. Democrats can scream obstruction of justice, impeachment blah blah, all they want but from a legal standpoint, no crime has been committed because the investigation is still ongoing, firing Comey did not and would not stop it. I was watching CNN last night and even they had a lawyer on saying it was not obstruction of justice. That Comey sitting on this, if it's true, that him doing nothing, could see himself in trouble. ---------- Post added at 11:00 ---------- Previous post was at 10:53 ---------- Quote:
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The Wall Street Journal is reporting there may be more to come: https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-a...tor-1494974774 So we wait and see. |
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I hope you applied an antidote with a dose of Fox news ;):D |
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So Putin reckons he has records which will clear Trump of giving away secrets. The thing is can they be trusted?... :spin:
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Trump doesn't need to justify himself on the sharing of information, he has had his surrogates backing him up saying no secrets were shared and has been said already, even if Trump did, he is the executive branch and has the authority to declassify anything he seems fit.
The problem at the moment in the White House is leakers, people trying to stitch Trump up by running to the liberal Press with so called conversations. I said this at the start of his Presidency, there will be people around him always attempting to stick the knife in. I have come to the conclusion that while the Founding Fathers attempted to create a perfect democratic system with checks and balances over 200 years ago, their workings are flawed because there is this constant rivalry and in fighting and that in some instance, while there is an official government, there is a secret government in play that tries all it can to unpick the official one. You only have to way up history and the Asassination of President John F. Kennedy and the conspiracy surrounding it, with fingers pointing at the CIA with assumption being they did not like the Kennedy's. |
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They didn't want a king.
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There should be a independent system that does the checks and balances, right now it depends on political parties, who naturally have an axe to grind with their opposition. I absolutely agree Trump needs to be investigated but by a non-biased political entity. |
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A special prosecutor is the best solution here. Independent of congress and the White House. ---------- Post added at 19:33 ---------- Previous post was at 18:48 ---------- Chaffez has officially invited Corney to testify next Wednesday: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...dnesday-238512 |
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Diplomacy can be pretty tricky sometimes, particularly when dealing with other unstable leaders. I believe a beligerent tweet could indeed stir a hostile reaction from some of these monsters. Donald Trump has no manners and no finesse and I am not confident that we will all survive the remaining three and a half years of his 'rule' without something very regrettable happening. The only happy ending I can envisage is that The Donald decides to go to Pyongyang to sort its Dear Leader out once and for all and nobody gets up to stop him. |
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So, you're scared that Trump will blow up the world but want him to attack North Korea :confused: Trump is trying a more peaceful solution by building good relations with China to put pressure on North Korea. Who's the dumb/smart one in this scenario? Trump along with Brexit is standing up against globalisation; a big thrust of which is done via multinational trade deals. He has cancelled TPP, TTIP (now dead) would never have got off the ground under Trump and NAFTA will be renegotiated. Obama and Hillary were/are globalists. Trump is bringing jobs back to the US and has cut illegal immigration from Mexico by 70% since taking office. He has appointed a Supreme court judge with traditional moral standards, repealed the Johnson amendment, giving all religions freedom of political views without financial penalties and curtailed lobbying. And shown that there is someone in charge who will not let a red line be crossed when he strategically attacked Syria. Those with liberal views hate these things, hence outrage. |
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Yes Trump is indeed the Second Coming and we can all be grateful. Seems to be going down well in the US too.
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Liberal bleeding country, they don't realise how lucky they are... |
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I thin Trump will do well he hasn't fallen into a YES person that is why the system is all over the place at the minute. 12 months from now we'll see a different and better kind of America
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The Deputy Attorney General has appointed a 'special counsel' to oversee the Russian investigation.
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I think it's a better outcome for Trump really. I suspect that for him this was end up being a Clinton-level e-mail scandal. That there is evidence of poor behavior but nothing illegal. Maybe some of his advisers might be in trouble (Flynn etc). But Trump was heading for serious trouble just because he seems to put his foot in it. Any investigation he has power over was bound to cause trouble. As it's independent he can't do that and it also avoids questioning for now because all sides can just say 'it's being investigated'. Flynn though might be trouble: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/poli...151149702.html Quote:
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I think the best thing that Trump could do is to shut down his social media account and spend a bit more time thinking about what he says and does. I dare say there are many decent people around him who're pulling their hair out with frustration.
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He's off again: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...69927644340224
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He might well be right about the double standards but he just needs to shut up and think before he tweets. Right now he's just giving his enemies the ammunition to shoot him with.
I think I might come up with an app which delays all social media messages, texts etc by 24 hours just to allow people time to calm down before they react to events and make fools of themselves. Maybe I could become a cyber-millionaire... :) |
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I suspect US intelligence will be doing a bit of grovelling to Israel at the moment!
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Israel needs to be careful given their reliance on the US and trumps habit of knee jerk response style they need the US a lot more then the US needs them. Trump does need someone to calm him and post on social media more relaxed then he has in the past. I expected there to be a period of adjustment for donald trump from businessman to politician and that it could take a while but he isn't making progress at the rate he needs too. While i still believe he was a better choice then clinton he needs to start rising to the job rather then allowing himself to be constantly distracted by the washington establishment and the liberal press and he needs to get the investigation into russia handled.
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If nothing else the military and financial support they gain from the US which is an increasing bone of contention with many in the US and i suspect more would be happy for trump to cut it then those who would not. Also as good as mossad is they are heavily reliant on US provided intelligence and resources and could not easily replace that capability.
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So, this so called ghost memo appears, apparently written by the fired former FBI Director, James Comey and this memo is suppose to outline that Comey was pressured to drop the Flynn investigation by Trump....
...But hold on a tick, on May 3rd just over two weeks ago, months after this so called Feb meeting with Trump and Comey, Comey Testifies under oath that in his experience, the FBI has not been told for political reasons to drop any investigation..... |
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Either way we'll see if Corney has anything more substantive to the accusation next week. |
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No where in that sentence does he say, 'It's not happened in my experience, but saying that, the President of the United States did ask me to halt it.' Comey saying in his testimony that it's a big deal to be told to stop an FBI investigation, that he should not have said under Oath, that it has not happened in his experience, he said it twice. No one has seen this memo, it was dictated down the phone to the New York Times reporter by an anonymous source. Too convenient in my book. Lots of lawyers and Attorneys backing Trump on this one. For Comey to come out now and be asked, did the President of the United States, tell you to end Flynn investigation? And he says, yes, as an investigation committee member, I would be referring to his May 3rd testimony and say, 'So, Mr Comey, did you tell a lie, under oath, that in your experience, being told to stop an investigation for political reasons never happened and when you made that statement, again under oath, if it was such a big deal for the FBI to be told to stop an investigation, surely it's an even bigger deal, that an instruction is passed to you by the President of the United States?' |
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Well, that worked out well didn't it?
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But it will be interesting to hear Coney's testimony Trump arrives in Saudi Arabia as Comey agrees to testify |
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I think it's a pile of crap, so does my anonymous friend, who wants to stay annonymous because his anonymous friend confirmed it with me, that he does.
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Worth remembering it was the New York Times that broke the Clinton e-mail story. Anonymous sources are normal in journalism as well, without them watergate wouldn't have been revealed. It's much harder to expose corruption if the person speaking out has to be named. We don't know the name of the person who revealed the expenses scandal
Here either. Those who want to suppress anonymous sources are helping the powerful avoid being held to account. ---------- Post added at 12:48 ---------- Previous post was at 12:46 ---------- Also when asked the White House didn't deny it but said it was pressure put on by Corney by his grandstanding rather than the investigation itself. |
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It's a news source with links to the Bilderberg group who has hidden the Bilderberg's anti Sovereign state, globalist views from it's audience. That stance alone makes it anti Trump. Trump may be guilty of collusion, or not; I don't know. But regarding the NY Times as an unbiased source is simply crazy, and shows that no research has been done regarding any agenda that they may be pushing |
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No, it was an understand where sources are coming from, agenda wise, argument. |
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It is an authoritative source and has been going since 1851. It is known as a paper of record. https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-New-York-Times |
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It was so corny that these two liberal news outlets both posted a story at the time Trump boarded Air Force one. |
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There will obviously be a few Trumpsters or Hillaryheads commenting on every article but I doubt they're investigative reporters. |
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The memos might come up on Wednesday. Anonymous sources won't go away, it's too hard to get news otherwise, they're common in both right and left wing media.
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So, why didn't they come clean on the true aims of the Bilderberg group? They were at the meetings. They were thanked by David Rockefeller for hiding the Bilderberg true agenda. |
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Pity the buffoon can't remember his previous tweets
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Never mind I suppose the $300 Billion Arms deal they just made means the Saudi King was not that upset with FLOTUS. |
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As I said, perhaps they came to some arrangement. Nothing to do with being blinkered. I don't have the time to be blinkered. Also try not to be blasphemous, there are Devout Christians about this forum who will not appreciate it. |
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Fake news, perhaps? ;) |
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There is only progress if there is evidence to support it. Otherwise, as you are so fond of saying, "fake news". |
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He did not put forward a statement so there is nothing he needs to support. Statements don't end with a question mark, they normally end with either a full stop or ! |
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1. "perhaps the Saudis warming to Women's rights" which is formally a statement and doesn't have a question mark after it. 2. "which is surely progress from two years ago?" which is formally a question and does have a question mark after it. From what Mick has subsequently added, he feels both are questions. As the poster, the onus would be on Mick to prove something and not for Hugh to disprove it. |
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.... You get 0/10 For your English skills today, starting the question, which it was, starting with perhaps and ending the same sentence as a whole, which it was, was a question. So no it is not on me to support a question at all. |
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I think Passingbat might be right about the illuminati.
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