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Got my letter this morning, bill going up by £2.50 a month. I wonder when the tipping point will be reached for a lot of subscribers.

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Well that makes it same price as a now tv monthly pass, so not far to the tipping point.

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Its all in the eye of the beholder as what some might see as poor value others might see it as excellent value compared to going to live sporting events etc , etc where ticket prices are pretty astronomical.

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It's less than the price of a home ticket to my team, so I will stick with it.
The Now TV route will tempt some but I don't find the 720p picture quality as good as Sky Sports HD and nowhere near as good as the BT Sports HD.

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The PQ is rubbish on Now TV, HD is now a must for viewing sports, particularly football imo.

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How much are Sky Sports and Movies on VM now guys? Can't seem to find the price listed anywhere other than 'from £19' when you add to a bundle. Think they'd hit about £40 for both with HD when I left last year.

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£36.75 without HD

£43.75 with HD

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Thanks Gavin.

I thinks they'll be £42 on Sky after the June price rise so I guess the gap is narrowing now between Sky and VM as it used to be around £7.

It's definitely getting expensive but like others have pointed out, still cheaper than attending most single Premier League games, not that I can remember much with my team!

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Price Increase again. I just don't understand VM - do VM think customers have a bottomless pit of money Disgraceful

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So, should VM absorb the extra charge that Sky has imposed?

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tbf to vm this price rise is down to SKY you know the old saying no-one is forcing you to pay there are other options if you look around and are willing to invest in something like a firetv.

Some new do not disclose info has been given to me today.
More news when i'm able to post the info etc.

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i got half price sky movies deal ! wonder if i get full price rise or half ?

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Are they the rumours about Sky Sports Mix or something else?

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Something else.

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I'd say you will be charged half of the new price in the same way that you were for the old price.

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get yourself a NOW TV box, you will save a small fortune! Ok it maybe isn't full HD, but it's a great picture in my house, If you pick up the newer black box, it now has Ethernet connection, and 1080p setting.

I Just set my parents up with a three month deal at £3.99 a month.

Then pick up your passes on Ebay, I rarely pay more than £4 a month.

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And lose the ability to record ...

I had a NOW box, and the picture was perfect for my needs, but not having the ability to record caused problems.

I will probably go back to NOW when my Movies / Sports deal ends in September - the price rise imposed has really taken sports away from the average viewer

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The box is capable of 1080p, but live TV is sent as SD and catchup/boxsets are limited to 720p.

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It still outputs 720p (on-demand) or SD (live) though: http://help.nowtv.com/article/Streaming-Quality

If they offered a 1080 option for an extra couple of quid per month I'd go for it.

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agreed, it is 720 output, it works for me, but i understand not everyone will like it.

as for recording, most current movies are available to stream in anycase. I dropped all my VM TV package about a month ago, and haven't missed a thing. Most of the shows i like(fox etc,) i watch as i want.

In fairness you do have to watch out for shows ending on NOW TV, some are limited availability, but generally it works for me and has saved my quite a bit on money.

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I would be surprised if the contract they have with Sky for the channels allows them to undercut Sky's own price.

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I don't think the cost that VM have to sell to their own customers would be in the contract. The important thing for Sky is getting the most money from VM.

Sky also know that they have a lot more coverage of the country than VM, so I don't think it would be a huge factor

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Same here. I never watch the live SD output; always use catchup, and I think the 720p picture is quite acceptable.

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I, ahem, "shaved my cord" and went to the M package back at the start of the year and also haven't really missed anything I can't get with Now TV + Netflix + Amazon.

The only big original programming channels still missing in the streaming world are SyFy, Universal, E, TLC, Sony, Lifetime, TCM, Cartoon Network and National Geographic. However, four of those are female-oriented channels I'm not really interested in, Natgeo I assume will join Now TV at some point as it's owned by Fox, TCM films are often on Netflix or Amazon, while SyFy, Universal and Cartoon Network all have shows on Amazon, albeit later on.

Then there's the four UKTV pay channels excluding Gold that Now TV has, but almost all of that programming has been on the BBC or is on paid or free streaming services already. There's eight extra Discovery channels I think, but the decent premieres are still mostly on the main channel which Now TV has. The seven extra MTV channels are just showing videos you can get anywhere and the rest of the music channels can be streamed free. I think I counted 18 channels not in the M pack that are available elsewhere free to air or can be streamed. That just leaves sport and the 800 range channels, which aren't for me.

So it's really hard to find £24+ of extra value between Now TV and the XL pack, especially without Sky Atlantic.

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I did the same a couple of years ago, using the same services as yourself.

About a month ago, I decided to spend an extra fiver a month and go from M TV to M+ TV as it gives me Alibi, W and Universal channel, which show some US dramas that I like, which are not available via the other services.

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MB HQ has seen new DNP info on the New Tivo box. Here is what we can post online: Virgin are set to launch two new TiVo boxes later this year. We have also seen info on how much they will cost to get one of them and how much it will cost extra per month.

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Yes the pricing will be crucial for many.

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mediaboy are they two different box or the same box but with different storage.

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l would say the storage capabilities are different if l was to hazard a guess.

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When are you able to tell us how much and how much more per month

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Well considering if you have movie and sports with sky it's £99 if they charge the original TiVo price of £149 to £199 along with an addicting fee is be out

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It would make me laugh, if VM made a 'connection charge' yet its the same cable

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I'm guessing there will be one charge for the main box and another for the equivalent of Tivo Mini.I'm sure the prices you've been told are only provisional and could alter nearer launch date depending on the competition. https://www.tivo.com/shop/mini

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Hi I'm new to this but have seen few people on here has mentioned Now tv so if anyone is interested may like new box that be launched in summer, it has Freeview channels built in with TV guide but still few bugs for Now tv team to fix which I have a box and yes box is like a Roku 4

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Interesting. Which box do you have - the Now TV box or the Roku 4? Will the new Now TV box have a recording facility via USB or external hard drive? Do you perhaps work for Sky/Now TV then?

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There is a trial going on of the new box. I imagine trialists are under a NDA though.

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Yes their lips are certainly going to be sealed PB.;)

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And yes you shouldn't be discussing

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He shouldn't but he hasn't said anything we didn't already know and has been mentioned in other online articles.

Saying that, if they find out who he is it's the last trial he'll ever get :)

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Why shouldn't a now tv trailist tell virgin media customers about new now tv smart box , but one thing about box there is some new features

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We're just guessing that maybe you signed an NDA?

From what i've seen around the box looks very interesting, now if i could install TV Player Plus on it it'd be good .

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When the new TiVo box launches will this include Virgin or will virgin be the only company not allowed

The deal will cover a variety of Sky services, from subscription channels such as Sky Movies and Sky Cinema, to transactional services such as Sky Story and Sky Select, and finally streaming services such as Now TV and Sky Online.

In other words, anywhere you can currently watch a movie on Sky will be covered by this deal. As for UHD, Sky promises it will be switching on 4K for Q customers this Summer.

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praying that virgin are able to give me a 4k channel even its a sky or BT one not just a add on like net flix.

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That's the question will Virgin be allowed to carry sky movies 4k and considering the upcoming price rise it be cheeky not to

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the question is were the content comes from the only 4k on BT is football is there a enough 4k moives for a channel.hopefully virgin are working on this.

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But sky have just signed a deal with Sony with includes 4K content

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No 4k content for vm info at this moment in time.

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VM will probably get access to sky 4k when 8k is set to launch... Oh dear.

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Nice to see the pessimism setting in again....;)

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:D Two new Tivos to be launched and an expanding network and people are worrying about hypotheticals! And a month's free football for everyone in the UK with Euro 2016 starting in a couple of months. Let's see what the year has in store before getting too negative about deals that haven't even been discussed yet.

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More like when 128k is launched :p:

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I'd say more realistic , whilst you can never say never I'd be amazed if any of Sky's 4K content arrives on anything other than its own platform.

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Some analysists say that 4k is viewed merely as a stepping stone to 8k, with many companies bypassing it altogether.

In March 2014 VM were in "wait and see mode" to see if 4k would be popular enough to be worth investing in.

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I have to agree.

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People need to start reserving a full wall for their TVs then, given that experts say that 4k, at normal viewing distance gives no significant picture quality unless the 4k TV is at least a 65" set. ;):D

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Yep, I think that's the way it's going.

With 8k supposed to be the maximum that the human eye can appreciate, it wouldn't surprise me if TV technology then went holographic.

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I would be surprised if the new Tivo did not have 4K capability.

If so, it stands to reason that we will have 4K content, just maybe not courtesy of Sky.

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And there in lies the problem, anybody who is seriously interested in 4k is going to want to watch sports and movies, I've watched TV series like House Of Cards in streamed 4k and it isnt worth getting excited about yet the canal+ demo loop channel on satellite shows a mix of sport, movies and drama and yes it looks stunning.

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Well I think the next gen TiVo will have 4K, but due to lack of 4K unless we get Sky 4K movies and sports, they can't make that the number one feature

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I think they may have to start striking deals now with other providers eg Discovery, ITV etc.

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Their 3D content was mainly VOD, so maybe this will be the same approach for 4k??

Sounds like a good idea.

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I'm unable to find any rumours about a itv 4K channel

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Yes, no rumours, this was just an example broadcaster that VM may wish to collaborate with for 4K content. LGI, VM's owner, does own a 10% stake in ITV.

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Talking about ITV it seems there is still no news about ITV Encore coming Andrew l gather?.

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Interesting read?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...sform-its-neg/

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So first of all " That will all change, he adds, beginning this week. The user interface will get an overhaul to make its menus slicker and more picture-based" this must mean now we are looking at the new system dropping down minus series link +

Also I think from the next statement realistically we are stuck with the old TiVo till 2017 now " At the turn of the year it will launch a new set-top box to rival Sky Q, with ultra-high-definition pictures and a similar ability to sling programmes to tablets and smartphones around the home." because as this interview was April this year that must mean next year.

So we get a new TiVo in 2017 and learn the new system but then around the corner " Beyond that, there will be a major overhaul of the ageing plumbing that powers Virgin Media’s broadcasting, to allow it to shift to Liberty Global’s next generation distribution system, Horizon, which is already in use elsewhere in Europe" instead of pumping up broadband speeds, why not have started this in time for the new TiVo in 2017

Media boy as this news has come from high up in virgin media can you confirm or deny the software updates are now starting this week and about the delayed TiVo for 2017

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Can it really be that Virgin Media has finally woken up to what has been blindingly obvious to its customers for ages? Only time will tell.

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Don't know the only reason I noticed the article was they were on about business on BBC Breakfast and this was at the side of the article they were showing in the paper

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Talk is cheap and as l said before the proof is in the pudding....

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Good spot.

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At least we know the new TiVo is not coming this year now just new software in a clunky box

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At least it is some news of what could be coming soon from this part of the article?

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I agree but sadly all the rumours of a new TiVo this year was incorrect according to the article

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If it's a two-year deal as some have suggested, it would expire on 9 June this year so could be a #comingsoon channel. Others may be able to add more.

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An interesting, if crushingly disappointing, puff piece in the Telegraph. I've just written about it on the VMHD blog and found little I can be optimistic about. I've concluded

I'm not normally one of those who sees the worse in everything Virgin does, but this felt to me like a kick in the teeth for those who have loyally stuck with the company through a succession of unjustifiable price hikes whilst being stuck with dated technology and vague promises of a brighter future. At a price, of course.
(full article at www.vmhd.blogspot.co.uk)

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Great read, thanks for posting. Looks like it kicks suggestions of a pre-Olympics Tivo well and truly into the long grass.

Not sure why it starts talking about Horizon, surely it's not a good idea to start mentioning a post-Tivo system as that may discourage take-up of the new Tivo which will probably be around for at least three years, possibly double that.

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Agreed but finally good to have solid news like this.

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Didn't we all just know that this would be another...........coming soon from Virgin, pathetic!! :rolleyes:

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I can't see someone so senior publicly talking like this without a plan already being in place though Den.

Seems to me (to continue your analogy) VM already have a few fingers in a few pies behind the scenes.

Watch this space.....

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Although I've got some sympathy for your comments, I don't think think it's entirely to say that VM is a "typical example of a media company that’s been run by accountants who have turned a blind eye to the opportunities of today’s technology and compelling content." It's run by Tom Mockridge who is not an accountant but started off as a newspaper reporter and the previous regime was forward-thinking when it invested in Tivo.
That being said, I can't explain why VM has not been so content conscious over the last couple of years particularly with regard to FTA channels like Spike. Perhaps because it's been focused on the VM Ireland takeover and the integration into LGI? Whilst the cat's away, the mice (Sky and BT) will play.
I posted earlier in the year about VM's hints that content was going to be addressed and it's good to see this being fleshed out a little more. Maybe David Bouchier needs to go out for a few beers with Vince and Old Boy?

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Yes, Series Link+ allows you to specify 'Recordings and streaming videos' so that My Shows will get the program from broadcast, Netflix, Catchup or On Demand.
You can also specify Channel = All so that the program can be recorded from any channel.

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Well l like others Mobes will watch this space and pass our comments accordingly as to what develops this year or next.:)

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It would be good if media boy can check this with his sources because it's not good news. I think they mean horizon software on a new TiVo box. Also it would be good to know about the software dates as he said next week but sweet F O from virgin

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In regards to software updates it would be good if Spiderplant would be able to update us, if he is able to as he is in the mix of it.

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Unless the plan is to migrate the box soon after to Horizon. Still a hard sell though, made worse if stories start appearing in the press about TiVo's acquisition and its new owners shutting down development.

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Well defo but I hope the new software updates don't put further pressure on this box. I worked out I got this box in 2010 meaning by the time we get new TiVo boxes mines be 7 years old

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Well sadly we won't find out till next year about the new TiVo at the earliest

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Being first out with a new box doesn't necessarily mean you'll have the overall best offering , it allows the competition time to see what's being done and what features people like.

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At the moment there is nothing to report. Definitely no updates this week.

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Cheers mate I know that you are the best one to ask in regard to software and boxes

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I would agree but TiVo is so old and clunky now ( the new TiVo was is testing near end last year) it's not worth it but here is what we know for 2016

No new TiVo for 2016
No date for new software update, maybe this year maybe not
No new channels apart from QVC channels
Probably faster broadband (wow )

If you don't need 200mb, don't mind a upfront fee, would prefer 8 tuners, watch tv recordings on the go and also download them and use a faster more responsive box, why would you stay with virgin media then that is a question, if you was a new customer what would you do

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So where was sources getting this information from about new tivos that don't exist, the DNP seems pointless as we know stuff boring

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Also I have had a hands on with sky q wow things are so much quicker, instant, easier, then to send a show to your iPad to finish watching when outside is amazing, virgin are sleeping

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Also I have had a hands on with sky q wow things are so much quicker, instant, easier, then to send a show to your iPad to finish watching when outside is amazing, virgin are sleeping

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Indeed MM.

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I do agree and if there is a good box there is no rush but virgin forever tell us nothing but want customer loyalty

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Hit the nail on the head there, not sky or vm related but i was one of the first with a firetv box and it took awhile for decent apps to arrive on it.

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When companies are in competition they are not going to give much away apart from a few subtle hints perhaps.

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I know I've got one in my front room ;)

A quick hands on is all well and good but to really experience a system it needs to be used day to day in the home environment.

Whilst I'm more than impressed with Sky Q it certainly has bugs that need fixing.

Ipad connectivity issues
Blank screen on playback of a couple of recordings

At the moment I'd say Sky Q needs a couple more stability updates before we've got a more reliable build.

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I know but when virgin are mucking around with the aging TiVo. When sky are promoted heavily and virgin are focusing on only QVC, signing new TiVo customers and again faster broadband it worries me

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But at least they have launched something that can be worked on but try loads Netflix on TiVo or BBC Iplayer then your in for a wait

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Try and load Netflix on Sky Q you'll be in for an even longer wait.:D

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And people moan about loading Netflix on the TiVo.:D

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A lot of negativity on here today on an article that is basically good news. I presume that the revelation that the new Tivo won't be out until the turn of the year has deflated some, but at least we now know, according to a man who should know, that the advent of Sky Q's rival is coming. (Soon).

The really good news I picked out of the Telegraph article was:

• John Malone concluded after a short time that the business he inherited was deficient on the TV side and concluded that the previous regime's strategy on not owning content was flawed. He therefore recruited David Bouchier as chief digital entertainment officer to 'reinvigorate Virgin Media's pay-TV business.
  The new Virgin Media exclusives that have arrived on our 'On Demand' system are a result of his involvement and 'there is much more to come'.
  There is recognition that the existing TIVO is 'clunky and unintuitive'.
  It is confirmed that the user interface will be overhauled, and not just on the new Tivos.
  The new features to assist navigation, including Series Link +, will be available on the existing Tivo this year.
  The new TIVO will be able to provide ultra-high-definition pictures and 'a similar ability (to Sky Q) to sling programmes to tablets and smartphones around the home'.
  There will be 'a major overhaul of the ageing plumbing that powers Virgin Media's broadcasting'. This will allow them to shift to the next generation distribution system which is Horizon. (Currently this has only half the storage capacity for recordings, so hopefully this will be rectified by the time it gets here).
  Virgin Media could even re-purchase UKTV.
  In line with the linear TV arguments I have been putting forward, David Bouchier clarifies that 'on demand programming on multiple screens is "the future of our business".'

I know that most of those reading the coming soon thread want all this jam yesterday, but I am excited by the fact that we now know for sure what Virgin Media is planning to do in the short term. I see nothing in this item to be pessimistic about - until now they hadn't promised anything!

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Hi listen I don't think we want is all yesterday but even a date for the new software is not too much to ask for

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I think personally at the end of the day, virgin media customers see nothing in the way of improvements unless it's about broadband.

We was given a app for free that I don't personally like but slow to navigate like YouTube

We got four music channels I thought good till they come in a app that you can't record from at all.

Loads of channels on freeview, sky, freesat that we don't even have yet.

We get two other versions of QVC ( Christ )

Still can't watch recordings on the move or even to anywhere app won't work on 3G.

Apps yes it's a old box but still as this is around for another year then not great that apps are slow.

I'm trying to find anything constructive virgin has done apart from vevo app in last 12 months oh soz another broadband speed increase which if they put as much time and interest into tv content, PVR boxes and staying current as they do with broadband we would be better off

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I'd love to see what you would like to see now by voting http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...omers-now.html

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...And look at what happens when they tell us what is planned and so many are aghast at the timespan! And yet, if they waited until Christmas and then said a new box was coming out in January, everyone would be ecstatic.

VM can't win, really.

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What ever they do next whenever that is one thing is clear and that is they must get it right or they will probably lose more TV customers else.

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That's simply not true. Broadband has certainly received priority this last year, but have you forgotten 2014 already, which was the year we were provided with a huge number of additional channels? Judging by the article in the Telegraph, it looks as though once more the TV side is being given priority now, so you should be pleased.

One thing we all have to understand though is that new content is likely to be provided in future via VOD/streaming. Amazon has already agreed to provide their streaming services on the Tivo in the US, and this tells me that it is only a matter of time before it gets added to our services as well. The advent of a vastly improved STB over the coming year, which should speed everything up, will make streaming more attractive on the VM system.