Re: sky sports red button
 

What a cock up by VM, all the technology there is and they still cannot get it right.

I can see loads of problems coming up, l was under the impression that 'test' are carried out by engineers and the games on Sunday would have been perfect for it.

Re: sky sports red button
 

It will probably depend on the type of stb that was used?

Not a total cock up at all. Also testing will have been done way before the service went live. But things can end up being different outside of a testing situation.

Re: red button
 

Thanks will try that next time.

Re: sky sports red button
 

When is the next red button event?

Re: sky sports red button
 

Did the test match v Sri Lanka have red button service for stats etc?

Re: sky sports red button
 

Not Technically red button , but could this mean the end for the 7.00 per box premium HD charge meaning 7.00 would be for all boxes if it's true

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...9&postcount=34

Re: sky sports red button
 

Or SKY insist Virgin still charge £7.00 per box for their Premium channels making their own £11.00 HD multiroom deal look fantastic.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Not that fantastic

Virgin multiroom including Sky HD is £13.50 per box - so only £2.50 more (I know it's still more but not as big a jump as Sky would probably like)

Re: sky sports red button
 

:) Okay so maybe fantastic was a bit over the top. My original post should have been:

Or SKY insist Virgin still charge £7.00 per box for their Premium channels making their own £11.00 HD multiroom deal look better.

As we all know SKY apparently believe in better:rolleyes:

Re: sky sports red button
 

Personally, I think the £7 per box charge would be dropped on Virgin Media too, if Sky changed their pricing to per account.

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I agree defo.

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Personally I think £7 for 2 hd channels is outrageous,never mind charging it per box. If it were for all 4 sports channels plus sports news channel then that would be better value.

Re: sky sports red button
 

You seem to have forgotten about the Movies channels as well:confused:

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Lets hope it is dropped DF.

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But he only has sports listed in his profile so it would be £7.00 for two channels.

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I did not think that you were just able to get the sports in HD, I thought that you had to get both the Sports and Movie's together. I may be wrong again.

Re: sky sports red button
 

No you can just have sports and add the premium HD.

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thats skys choice in withholding channels not VMs blame sky on this one

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Nothing surprises me about Sky greediness.

Re: sky sports red button
 

well

I didn't order a TiVo box because I knew from CF that the Ren Button was on Sky Sports on the V+ box

I have just turned on the Cricket Test Match from Lords - listened to the commentator saying what great information was on the Red Button

grabbed a coffee - pressed the Red Button >>>>>>>> NOTHING ?????

No information no stats no nothing

what what is going on ? ? ?

Re: sky sports red button
 

Because even on V+, Red Button is not available on everything yet

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If you don`t subscribe to the movies channels you only get 2 sports hd channels! Were`s the confusion in that? I have no interest in the movies but love sport so I subsribe to the sky sports channels in SD. If I want them in HD I have to pay another £7 and that`s just for 2 channels! A rip off as far as I`m concerned.

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Yes I do blame sky for this. My gripe is with sky`s greed not with virgin.

Re: sky sports red button
 

yes but we are talking about test cricket !

I don't understand - we were advised in this forum for several months that it was taking time to get the software right

does this mean that after all this software development time all we are going to get is a second TV-stream if we click the red button

I've been a loyal VM customer for about 9 years and before that a Nynex customer

I have waited and waited for the red button cricket stats and even after all the waiting we still don't get what I understood we were to get

I am miserable

I am going finally going to to ring Sky

Re: sky sports red button
 

I kind of know how you feel in the 2nd Test match recently West indies v Pakistan series vm customers did not even get the extra TV Stream(when sky transferred the match to red button) in fact we got no Red Button content! I rang vm and they said there was a technical issue,and after e-mailing Neil Berketts office a nice lady rang me back and gave me another reason to do with sky decidng at the moment the content it supplies to vm! and in my discussion with her she was good enough to say the full red button may even not be available until the fourth quarter sometime.

The explanation she gave rang true but at least i felt i was being levelled with so was happy enough.:)

Re: sky sports red button
 

4th quarter of what?

Re: sky sports red button
 

4th quarter of the year sorry.ie before the end of december.

Re: sky sports red button
 

I agree with DF's comments yesterday. I think Ofcom said Sky has to offer the Sky Sports 1 and 2 Premium HD on fair and equitable terms or something like that, so if Sky make it per household for their customers, I would expect that ultimately that would also happen on VM. Even if VM had to complain to Ofcom, which I think they did on the HD price per box...

Dunno about Sky Movies HD though. As that isn't a Must Offer set of channels.

Noticed that I get Sky 1 HD on the two boxes despite only paying one £7 premium, just not Sky Sports.

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Oh I see.The C&W/NTL/VM motto 'coming soon' still applies..;)

So is there any chance of someone somewhere giving us an itinerary as to when ALL the red button functions WILL arrive on VM...

I know it's a very minor part of the DTV experience BUT us longer standing cable TV customers have been waiting a very,very long time.I think we can be excused for being some what impatient.;)

Re: sky sports red button
 

Nice to know even the moderators are asking about the Sky red button as it has been such a long wait and as l have stated before as a Virgin subscriber to Sky,s premium channels l believe the customer as he pays the same price as Sky,s customers is entitled to have the same functionality.:D;):D

Re: sky sports red button
 

Actually Denphone sky sports is not the same price as sky charge £20.50 for the channels, and on virgin media we pay £22.50 so it is actually more expensive to have sky sports with vm.!

Re: sky sports red button
 

Thanks for telling me that and that makes it even more right for us to have it.

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Why should vm customers pay more, should it not b other way round

Re: sky sports red button
 

Can you really see Sky charging their customers more :D

I agree with you that VM should get Sky Sports at the rate Sky charges it's own customers though.

Who knows in a month or so when OFCOM rules it may come down in price.

Re: sky sports red button
 

l would not hold my breath.

Re: sky sports red button
 

I personally think VM and BT should have pushed OFCOM more for access to all channels and interactive features and pricing to match Sky's own rather than cheaper access to SS 1 and SS 2, I pay £20.50 to Sky and I don't consider that bad value for 5 sports HD channels and red button services however I understand why customers of other platforms feel shortchanged.

Re: sky sports red button
 

OH come on please:D:D:D:D:D

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Well with Sky,s track record of withholding content and functionality you can never be sure of anything and Sky will continously drag things out.

Re: sky sports red button
 

If and when News Corp take over Sky, their anti-competitive practices will get even tougher. Just have to hope OFCOM still have some teeth before their inevitable cuts.

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Lets hope so but the governing party has already shown that it is pro- murdoch in its dealings.

Re: sky sports red button
 

I think unfortunately its when more than if.

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Yes its wrong but unfortunately money talks.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Yes you are right the big grubby world of money in which everybody needs its but the minority of people have more of it then the majority.

Re: sky sports red button
 

What's happened to the red button service on Sky Sports 1 for Cable?, I want to watch the Cricket with WI vs. IND as well, the service was available only a fortnight ago!

I wish the Sky Sports "Active" red button service was available for the Cricket on Virgin Media. (i.e. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKpQ9jhIQss)

Re: sky sports red button
 

Goodness knows mate the nearest i have come to finding out is by emailing neil berkett and if you read one of my earlier psotings on this thread i was called up and given some explanation see post 1424 page 95.All in all though its a very poor state of affairs a bit like Kevin pietersens recent batting performances..:(

Re: sky sports red button
 

It looks like the HD charge per box is defo being removed on Sky in September not sure how this affects VM charge.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=101

I've seen many other posts stating the same and a Sky worker who claims the same.

Re: sky sports red button
 

If Sky do drop this charge then Virgin will have to follow such very quickly in my mind.

Re: sky sports red button
 

$ky might continue to insist vm customers are charged it to cover extra carriage costs.

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It will be interesting to see what happens , Sky are changing some of their packages about in September and a Sky employee says the max rise anyone will see is £1.00 with some seeing a reduction and some froze , I'll believe that when I see it LOL.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Virgin have no say alone in whether they drop the charge or not, it's set by a commercial agreement with Sky

Re: sky sports red button
 

And that is not going to be revealed but Virgin have to remain competive at the end of the day.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Well indeed, but if Virgin say to Sky 'we want to drop the £7 per box to remain competative' and Sky say 'no we wan't the revenue' not much they can do

Re: sky sports red button
 

But then thats anti-competitive in my mind.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Exactly this is always a problem when your just selling another companies channels.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Is there any red button stuff this weekend?

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Is there anything on red button this week?

Re: sky sports red button
 

Well if Virgin had a lists of events that are on the red button that would be a help but remember we are still in phase 1 of the red button.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Virgin forgetting to put list out lol

We seem to be in phase 1 for ages

Re: sky sports red button
 

Not sure if its already been on for a while but superleague extra time was on red button this week! First time its worked for me, Im very pleased:)

Re: sky sports red button
 

Phase 2 will come either at the end of July or start of August.

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Yep watched every minute of it :)

Re: sky sports red button
 

I did notice cricket which was supposedly in phase 1 of the roll out in fact it was the first Red Button content VM had from sky sports ,has been sporadic with some matches being shown on Red Button not available to vm sky sports subscribers,on that evidence it does not look too promising,mind you i managed to stream the cricket content from the net sky had on the Red Button.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Phase 2 may launch on Virgin Media on July 31st 2011 - That the date I was given months ago.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Thanks MB.

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phase 2 from Aug
news come form Media Boy,http://virgintvmediaboy.blogspot.com/

Re: sky sports red button
 

Not necessarily as was said on the blog all dates subject to change,when i emailed Neil Berketts office over the Red Button issue a nice lady rang me back,and after a conversation i was told phase 2 may even be in quarter 4 ie after september but she may have meant thats when they hope to launch sky sports Red Button on TiVo,so lets wait and see.

Oh and i was also told by her when having a conversation about some cricket red button matches on sky but not available on vm.its up to sky what they supply so do not hold your breath.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Are we getting the ol that availble on red button?

Re: sky sports red button
 

Any news on when this will launch on Tivo? I really want it for the Champion's League games next season.

Is it possible? it's a shame Tivo customers have to wait so long when we have had to pay a premium to get the box and a fee each month.

Re: sky sports red button
 

You don't pay the Tivo fee for red button services, the £3 is for the spyware......................sorry TIVO EPG to look at what you what you watch and find shows similar that you may enjoy.


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Google "Tivo spyware"

Re: sky sports red button
 

Ah what have we got here well its Charlie with his usual anti-virgin posting.:rolleyes:

Re: sky sports red button
 

No different than: Sky commits to targeted advertising

Re: sky sports red button
 

No update - yet - on the Sky Sports Red button launching on Tivo.

Re: sky sports red button
 

thanks MB hope it can be for football season starting

Re: sky sports red button
 

Why don't Virginmedia as a temporary measure simply set up 3 or 4 channels to stream the extra red button content?

Re: sky sports red button
 

No-one knows. It's not like it's unprecedented, as NTL did it before.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Thanks.

I hope we get a update when stage 2 launches on the V+ box's.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Don't worry as Media Boy never lets us down.

Re: sky sports red button
 

On the information I got says TiVo Virgin Viewers will get the Red Button on Sky Sports at an later date starting from August.

The July 31st date is only for non TiVo viewers to maybe get Phase 2.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Because Sky would sue? The red button is Sky's service, not VM's, and it's Sky that are developing it and Sky who operate it.

Besides, it's 14 channels, each with 9 audio tracks. You wouldn't be able to select the correct audio if they were normal channels.

Re: sky sports red button
 

I spoke to some cowboy on the phone today, he said no update, they have to get permission from Sky to start using the red Button Service and he denied they have already been testing it! has there been a setback or something we don't know about yet?

Re: sky sports red button
 

Why was he a "cowboy"? He's obviously not been given any information about it... The only thing that can be said is VM & TiVo are working on it.

Re: sky sports red button
 

And thats good enough for me.:)

Re: sky sports red button
 

will red button be up and running ready for the new season?

Re: sky sports red button
 

Its will be on the V+ and other boxes but l do not know with regards to the tivo.

Re: sky sports red button
 

tivo. good box but we do need the red button all so we need a reminder addy on the boxs but back too the red button i seen some post going about that tivo. may get red button buy aug and v+ with full red button in jul 31st st week off aug time . but dont ouote me

Re: sky sports red button
 

It would great if we did get the red button on tivo that quickly.

Re: sky sports red button
 

It should be all about launching it on both box's before the football season starts. If they are working on it everyday it should be possible.

Re: sky sports red button
 

If both VM and Sky had the desire then I'm sure we'd already have it by now. Who gains most by dragging their heels ;)

Re: sky sports red button
 

We could be watching extra-time rugby or whatever they call the feature for super league

Re: sky sports red button
 

i have used the red button twice.
Once a loading box came up but nothing happened and the box became unresponsive. (on v+ box)
The second time, tonight, the new stream loaded but a loading box remained and the box became unresponsive. (on an old telewest pace box)
I hope VM sort these issues out.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Had the same as you jab1990 on a VHD box. Watched the extra-time rugby with the loading box then had to power down to get out of it.
Hopefully they will sort it soon.

Re: sky sports red button
 

ditto with V+ box :(

Re: sky sports red button
 

yes it happened to me too it just froze up saying please wait after 10mins i had to reboot v+ box

Re: sky sports red button
 

Well it was fine with me and l used it a few times.

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:D Den there's nothin worse than a born again Virgin fanboy;)

Good luck to you mate:)

Re: sky sports red button
 

No no no l will comment on things and if l feel the need to criticise Virgin l will and l will not pull any punches about it but in the last 6 months they have been very good to me.:);):)

Re: sky sports red button
 

Ah so your silence has been bought;)

Ah well in for a penny, Virgin I think your tv service is crap. Give me two years of free VIP service and I'll shut up:angel:

Re: sky sports red button
 

Yes we do need a few more channels and l expect these to come later this year but on the other tv fronts Virgin,s on demand is much superior to Sky's anytime offering and also remember that Virgin's tivo is far superior to Sky's set top box and is likely to pull further ahead in the coming months as it has only scratched the surface so far and by the way do you require some tape to put around your mouth.:D:D:):D:D

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Only trying to educate the deluded my friend;)

Re: sky sports red button
 

I will give you that VM have catchup but there's no way they beat Skys OD, content wise. You keep saying how advanced TIVO is and the search and wishlist features are good however the box still has no access to BBC red button or to keep on topic no Sky sports red button , something a Pace SD Sky box has , just remind me how the epg updates to schedule changes ;-)

Re: sky sports red button
 

Ah your master has summoned you to do his bidding but on your eloquent points you have made firstly on VOD Sky has 500 hours of OD content while Virgin have nearly 5000 hours of OD content so that is a very one sided contest in my mind and on your other point we know that Phase 2 of the red button will arrive on normal boxes at the end of July and arrive on the tivo thereafter and same apply to the BBC red button which will be added to the tivo in due time so l think we both know in due time that Virgins tv service driven by tivo especially will knock spots of Sky's tv service.:D:):D

Re: sky sports red button
 

Thanks for answering , so you admit your statement is currently wrong :D With Added being a popular word , like how you skirted past the schedule change question , basically a fundamental of any good PVR. Hope you don't have to long a wait thought for your sports red button services. I'm only pulling your leg pal