Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

£26.50 per month for this box is a disgrace. I already pay £75 per month at the moment. Virgin know how to look after there customers.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

See how many people think it's great but expect discounts on it now :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

It's quoting XL pack prices ;)

It's a premium product

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

You do realise that's XL TV with £3 on top, not XL with £26.50 on top.

[edit]What DF said![/edit]

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Indeed... it's a premium product afterall. :cool:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

So effectively you only get the box if you are on XL TV since you paying for the XL pack unless you have it already of course

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Noticed the feature of Tivo being able to look back the past 7 days to record anything you missed. Is this more than catch up since catch up doesn’t literally have every programme and occasionally I’ve found catch up doesn’t have a programme I’ve missed or it takes several days to appear when you want to watch it now?

If that is true and everything is still available up to 7 days in the past then that will be impressive!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

looks like XL and above only. Makes sense I suppose. :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Just watched the video too and I will have to say the TiVo box is AMAZING!

Can't believe how excited I am about this.

I think the term 'Game Changer' is what needs to be said about this box. Finally VM have a major advantage over Sky in the Pay TV market in my opinion

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I see only two tuners to start with, the 3rd comes in early next year

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I hope getting Tivo will not make a mess of any agreed bundles already in place with customers. Happy to pay the price to get Tivo with relatively minimal increase in monthly fees (pay £24.50 for XL right now but then have discounts for the full TV/BB/Phone bundle I have).

It could be a case of VM deciding to withdraw discounts from existing customers as a result of buying a Tivo and so the increase will be much higher due to loss of discount. Not bothered about a formal 12 month contract, just hope VM are pragmatic enough to see this as a straight add-on to what customers already have in place.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Certainly is going to up the game in premium TV :)

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You are upgrading, so I doubt you'll lose discounts etc. :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

£199 for a box with a lifetime warrenty is amazing!

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I see this is a way of virgin making hagglers pay the full price as they cannot threaten to go to sky as you cant get tivo on sky.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Yes. The 3rd tuner is in the box, just not enabled yet.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

The 2 tuner is the only problem I can see, the problem time is 9pm to 11pm for us when on som,e nights I have 4 items to record in that period and we’re watching something else. Can be managed with 3 tuners but not 2 so only 1 spare tuner for actual recording. If Tivo can look back 7 days and record as I noted earlier then that is manageable as it will record a programme as and when time becomes available to go back in the EPG and record something I requested I wanted recording, or am I reading too much into what the box can do?

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Thanks if that is the case then, sensible for everybody and keeping customers happy!;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Any idea of the technical reason for this? Can't see it having anything to do with the network as V+ manages it now so is it down to the software?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

So really XL customers are just adding an extra £3.50 a month to bill, obviously not including purchase price, not toooo bad I suppose.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

It'll be down to the tivo software.

The US tivos only have 2 tuners, so I assume they'll have to rewrite a fair bit of it to utilise the 3rd.

Re: Cinemoi to launch on December 1st on Virgin TV.
 

I already pay enough on XXL Broadband XL Phone and XL TV plus Sky Movies and Sports plus the HD charge so as I don't speak French this is one channel I shall give a miss unless its permanently free to XL viewers.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Suspect software is written but just a matter of testing before the upgrade is issued.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Good point.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Software issue. it will be added as it's the spec VM & TiVo want for this box.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I was going say £3 more like it not £26.50 :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Can I clarify, it's £199.00 for the new TIVO box plus £40.00 installation for all existing customers and new customers looking to take the service?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

All tings considered, I think the price is very fair. I can see some odd bundles coming out soon though!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

This is the standard price.

So £3 extra a month for XL TiVo

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Thanks Digital Fanatic.

I preferred Media Boys price list!:D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Same here, that price is good :D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Define standard price ?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

£199.00 for the new TIVO box plus £40.00 installation for all existing customers and new customers

Hope we ant got pay that, and it dont say nothing about the price on Virgin site yet, we just have to wait and see what the price is going to be :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Think I'll wait until they add 3 tuners and then pay that... Not paying around £240 and £3 extra a month for just 2 tuners.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

The box has 3 tuners, just only two are enabled. The third will be activated via firmware update early next year

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Pretty poor that this 3 tuner should have been ready for launch.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I have a feeling it will be less of an issue with TiVo than you think. I'm betting that if they are any clashes, it will automatically search out another recording of that programme (e.g. on a +1 channel or on another day etc) and record that instead

Also from the video it looks like the Catch Up services are much more intergrated so you may even get pointed in the direction of those if it doesn't record

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Not knocking it mate the demo looks pretty good just a shame about the 3 tuner.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Its good couse you always will be able to download new apps and install the latest software, just to wait for the right price to come:tu:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Got a few questions, with Tivo on VIP will you get 1 Tivo and 1 Vhd or 2 Tivo? If you only get 1 how much to upgrade both to Tivo? Will it still be extra to have HD premium channels on both? Finally will VM be releasing VIP100? Thanks Chris

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Check out the vm website for tivo http://tivo.virginmedia.com/ make shure you watch the Demo video.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Agree but that only applies if the programme you want to see is in catch up in the first place so only half solves the issue (I've has cases in the past where a programme has not been in catch up), thus need for 3rd tuner to guarentee you can record 2 programmes while watching a third. VM certainly do not want to lose this feature, it is a unique advatange over Sky and a mandatory requirement in my house! I could just not manage without this capability with the recording demands of my family and the peak period between 9 and 11pm where not all programmes you are wanting to record are later on catch up.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

They aren't losing it. The box has three tuners, just the third one isn't switched on - yet

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Agree, bad wording from me, I know it will come but just a shame they have to lose functionality for launching now. If they issued the firmware upodate in Q1 2011 will be fine but if Q4 2011 that will be bad news.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I'm sure it will be sooner rather than later

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Fingers crossed then, just a personal issue for me as I have a situation right now where I need to record 4 programmes between 9 and 10pm (use +1 channels to get around this and record all 4) but 2 are on Sky 1 where VM don't have catch up access yet so an issue short term if I buy Tivo which I want to. No doubt will be resolved soon.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

There's an impressive and extensive slide show here of the new Virgin TiVo UI http://crave.cnet.co.uk/homecinema/v...otos-50001848/. It looks amazing. I must start saving for one of these.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Bang goes the eSATA expansion for storage then :( At least I'll still be able to keep my PS 3 controllers charged up through the USB port :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Wheres the link to the vid guys cant see it? :-(

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

On the Tivo home page. says something like watch demo

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Remind me again of how may tuners we have at the moment. And how many it will have? With TiVo can you record 3 programs while watching a fourth?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

There is 3 in the V+ HD box, and there are three in the TiVo box. However only two will be enabled at launch

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I'm really impressed by the TiVo box I just don't fancy spending £200 for the box on top of the £100 a month I already give VM. Heres hoping there's some good offers for current customers......

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

One question no one has asked is the epg hd?.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Yes, its stated in the promo or somewhere else I've read today

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

According to these guys it is.

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/homecinema/v...otos-50001848/

Believe me from using our old sky hd box it is pleasing to the eyes.

Sorry perfect choice missed your post above ^^^^^

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

As exciting as it all is the box sure is ugly. It's like looking at a fat girl in leggins

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

beats the SA V+ box I got atm

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Update from the sofa

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Rumour: Channel One to close with Bravo on new Year Day.

An rumour on Digital Spy Forums says that both Channel One and Channel One +1 will stop broadcasting on New Year Day.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...98&postcount=4

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Thats good news get rid of crap :) and bring on the new channels :clap::clap::clap::clap::woot:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Cinemoi oe whatever it is just needs me to enter my pin and the channel is unlocked...Thought this was a pay channel?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Cinemoi is free to view on Virgin Media until January 31st 2011.

But you need to put in you PIN number until 10pm (Like Sky Movies)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

:D

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I suppose. It looks better than those unofficial snaps that someone posted a couple of weeks ago.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Is there a YouTube link to the vm TiVo demo. I'm on the iPad and can't view it directly from the site. :p:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

i don't understand why they are not activating all 3 tuners because doesn't it make it worse to the current v+ box?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

It does and it is a bit disappointing but it has been speculated that it's because the original tivo boxes only have two tuners. You would have thought it would have been sorted by now though.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

i personally think it looks beautiful - and i would like to think i have a good eye for beauty, im studying design after all. does anyone out there agree with me? ):

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Because TiVo in the US only has two tuners so that's likely what the core TiVo EPG is designed to deal with.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Looks like a fat PS3 to me :rolleyes:

But I do wonder weather the design is as is, because it will get pretty toasty, and being curved will stop peeps putting any kit on/above it ?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

What video i want to see it.please.:(

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

They will activate the three tuners when they feel its ready. Am sure there is a good reason for them not being able to have all three enabled at launch.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

The one on here:

http://tivo.virginmedia.com/

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

indeed and it's better than delaying the launch until they update the software. :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Thanks.:)....looks brill.But the cost..how much we wonder.??

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I for one am looking forward to it most of us shouldn't moan about price or anything we should be privileged that we are getting it with tivo under the bonnet probably the best pvr in the world sky will never better that.;):p:

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

SKY never will be able to better it as Virginmedia have exclusive rights to TiVo, one in the eye for Murdoch.:D

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

not sure if this has been elaborated on but in regards to the tuner questions
Inside a lot of the stuff is based on TiVo's Premier box. TiVo Premier only has two tuners, which restricts the product to watch one, record one. Fortunately for us, we don't use it!! The box contains three tuners, like a V+. Once the right parts of the code have been rewritten to support three tuners, there'll be a drop and watch one, record two will be possible. :-)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I think it is more a case of recording the next showing, the rights to keep all show for seven days would be a nightmare and they would have to negotiate with every channel.

You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futile.
 

http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419...-tv-explosion/


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Begin
Tivo.Tuner(3).Active = True
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;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

The end of the sa I hope

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I like my SA.;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I paid £150.00 for the V+ box about 3 years ago, and think I paid around £50.00 install too. I currently have a V+ box and a standard V box. If I upgrade to TIVO, can I keep the V+ box and have the TIVO box installed in place of the standard V box?

I'm on VIP50 package. What extra would I expect to pay to have a TIVO box in one room, and V+ in the other?

Sorry if this is a little off topic, however this is currently the best thread on Cable Forum for TIVO related questions and answers.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

.... and so do I. :)

:erm: I know it's probably tempting fate to say it but mine has never displayed any of the problems that I hear about on CF and I have had it for several years.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Irreverent. The SA will become one with the Bor-I mean, Virgin-Tivo Collective. ;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Or more accurately record two, watch one of those.

Re: You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futil
 

So am i reaidng this right that virgin plan to replace all boxes in th network witht eh tivo box?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

You will have to wait for the prices to be published because no one knows and if they do then they cannot say if you get my drift.

A nod is as good as wink to a blind horse so they say.;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

It would be £3 more a month to pay for TiVo subscription, or £7.50 extra if you want to go up to 3 boxes which seems a good idea as your paying for a manned install

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

In place of your V box= YES. I had mine swapped for TiVo
pricing is dependent on customer grouping. Customer care will be able to explain the cost.

Re: You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futil
 

Sounds like that, seems a bit daft as I'd rather have a samsung v plus than a vbox

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

no the one on here
http://videos.paidcontent.org/video/5029240

Re: You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futil
 

My guess - the SA TV Drives and Sammy V+ HD boxes will be swapped over for Tivo boxes. The Sammys aren't compatible with Tivo software and I doubt very much if the SA is capable of running a Flash Interface at a decent speed.

I have a SA myself, apart from some random reboots after the rollout for additional HD channels, its been rock solid. But even my Dad's Freeview box blows it away for user interface and speed in the EPG. Tivo can't come soon enough.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Same video on there.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

is it dont think so
you are correct sorry didnt play the demo

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I'm sure it is.

And for those who have already got media streamers/Networked TVs with YouTube functionality, and who want to watch the video on the big screen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Zem...layer_embedded

;)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

Is Cinemoi a fixed contract or rolling?

Re: You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futil
 

Cindy Rose talks about everyone being on Tivo within two years which makes me think there will be some enticing prices for existing customers.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

I think i must be the only one thinking £200 to rent a box is insanity! If i switch to sky in 1yr i'd have paid £200 just to use the tivo box. I think virgin should have made it so that people could choose to purchase the box when ordering for £275 and have a slot in the box to allow a DVB-T or DVB-T2 tuner to be installed so that people could use the box as a freeview hd box with recording ability.

Its safe to say I will be the customer never upgrading to Tivo until its completely free including installation or maybe, it wouldn't even be worth £20 i don't think as i wouldn't be using the additional functions over what my V+ hd box has. The harddrive space is the only plus for me. I can't see virgin enabling the e-sata port as they haven't enabled the USB port on the V+ due to piracy issues with providers.

Just out of curiousity does this support 1080p youtube and does it have Lovefilm built-in too?

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where does she say 2 years?

Btw it may be financially beneficial for virgin to do this as the cost of creating their own software on the V+ box must be quite a bit whereas tivo is already made and will be improved regularly i'm sure as many companies world-wide use their boxes. If they could get all the v+ boxes gone and everyone on tivo then they'd have alot less programmers needed.

Gotta say the box is pretty ugly imo, they always want their boxes to have sort of vagina lips on the front, they should have hired a good designer :P

Re: You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futil
 

:woot::woot::woot::woot: it wont be long till we all no the price woop woop

Re: You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futil
 

i thought we did 199 + 40 install

Re: You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futil
 

No that's for new customers, it's £149 + £40 install fee

Re: You will all be assimilated into the Virgin-Tivo Collective. Resistance, is futil
 

Is there a link to these prices ?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 

All good but ...

What if.. I had most of that 10 years ago with my original Tivo!

So strange it is now being marketed as the future! Lol

Can't wait to get the 'peanut' back in my hand though!