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I'm just waiting for the people who have fairly 'ordinary' HD TV sets - eg 32" LCD which may be best viewed at 720p, who already use a V+ box, commenting that the much vaunted 'HD' channels don't really offer much more than the upscaled SD the V+ has offered for ages.

Bigger displays, especially 'full HD', fair enough should be better, of course, especially at broadcast 1080i quality.

Just with my cynical hat on I can envisage the 'waited this long & its no better than we already had' type of comment from those with lesser equipment??

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Well it if broadcast in 1080i it will be mince he he ;) better in 1080p

but i can see peopel complain with the tpye of hd channel added and the quailty not being as good as sky bla bla bla

people say i defned virgin to much but if people are going ot be like what i jsut said above then i see a good reason to because if you are goign to moan and complain about something then you get it but still complain and moan then someone has to defned the other side, it like 5 people attack one person it just unfair fight.,

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there are no broadcast 1080p services I am aware of from Sky or Virgin?

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Yep you are correct on that one sky only delivers HD @ 1080i but hey better than nothing i suppose ;)

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my point is that a smaller screen may be better viewed at 720p - and that the HD picture may not actually be that much better than SD upscaled using a Virgin V+ box.

- upscaled SD applies to all channels, not just the HD ones, hence my theory that some people waiting for the 'real' HD are going to end up disillusioned with what they actually get in future, compared to what they get now ???

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Tbh only time i have seen native HD icon is on eurosport Hd. Then it looks awsome on a 47 inch lg i got but then again it is only broadcast in 1080i so only time you will get true hd is through blu ray and i cant see virgin or sky broadcasting true hd channels in the near future so are we getting conned by the tv companys about the hd channels?

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Sky broadcast their HD channells in 1080i also, as far as I'm aware, they just don't display a 'Native HD' icon, so i'm not sure why you think only Eurosport HD do? Perhaps your simply confused by their logo that appears on Europsort HD when they are showing proper HD as opposed to upscaled SD?

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But will there be three along at once?

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I agree with Frogstamper, it is the lack of meaningful information that annoys. I live in the real world and yes I understand that things take time, I realise that negotiations take time (sometimes longer than anticipated) but I also realise that the same mechnisim that is used to release these nuggets of "mis"information could be used to placate an annoyed PAYING audience by being honest and upfront. I may be wrong but to date the only explanations of why these promises are not being kept have been from inside sources, never from the horses mouth and through the official channels that released the information in the first place.

To those people that have repeatledly said (and I am paraphrasing) "Its simple if you want HD go to SKY and if you want decent BB go with Virgin". Well perhaps I am being greedy but actualy I dont think it is too much to want both..... After all it was what we were promised.

I watch SD channels, and truth be told if and when we get some more HD channels I will still mostly watch SD channels. To date I am sure I havnt lost as much as a minutes sleep over the fact that we havent got HD. If it takes another year I will be annoyed, but my life wont suffer.
BUT that shouldnt absolve Virgin from the responsibility to keep me - as a paying customer - meaningfuly informed.

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I always thought Sky was only at 720p and all broadcast HD was 720 although the STBs can upscale that to 1080p.

Anyway we all seem to have gone OT here as none of this is coming soon. I did setup a seperate HD discussion thread ages ago so might be better to move that there or to a new thread

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Andrew crawford !!! Are you Neil Berkett in disguise, are you Neeeeeeil Beeeerkett in disguise !!!!! hee heee

only jokin but you do like to defend virgin media for some unknown reason :)

on a serious note it frustrates me that virgin dangle the carrot that is just out of reach....... Can you imagine any other massive company telling people were gonna, say ford for example release a new fiesta in quarter 1 then not doing oh were sorry it will be summer now, ooops maybe sometime this year ..... nope me either

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Acutally they do a lot

I have said my reason before i hate seeing the truth bended to suit someone needs, i also critise virign as well, like ch4 hd, unlimited downlaods when it limited etc

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What are you talking about true HD?? 720p, 1080i are HD its not just 1080p thats classed as HD. The official labelling is Full HD on newer 1080p TV Sets. Just means you are getting the largest resolution for HD. Not that anything else isn't really HD.
All Broadcast HD services are 1080i that applies to VM, Sky and Freesat.

Your TV or STB will scale that to 720p if thats what you set it to or your TV if that is the only resolution it can do.

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Acutall true HD is 4320P

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welldone that coming to japan in 2025

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try 2080

You do realise the bandwidth need to broadcast a single one fo them channels? the amount needed sky would be in current system be lucky to be able to broadcast one from what i knwo of it it need 2-3 ffree transponders to transmit in virgin terms i say 2-3 transport streams ie basically 2-3 analogue streams

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ino its 3 terrabite for 20 minutes of filming in ultra hd the bbc are filming the olympics in 2012 in ultra hd there using lots of bandwith for the test

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try 30TB for 20 minutes its a 25GBit/s video uncomrpessed.

if you mean compressed 2TB is quite possiable but stilll huge.

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yer and there aprently going to have it streamed live on a big screen in london nhk and other companys are going to help them broadcast it live

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I can not wait to see the demands for UHD after the 2012 olpymecios then, sky are providing us with 1UHD channel and virgin are still 100 years behind.......

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Personally, I can't see any difference between high quality SD and HD channels on sets smaller than 50". To get the real HD quality requires giant screens with a wider vision larger than one's eyes.

And with my cynical hat on, I can envisage those who've waited ages for HD being a little "peeved" when they realise that their current equipment will not receive the new HD channels when/if they arrive...

Pigs will fly first before VM transmit dozens of HD channels in the bandwidth hungry MPEG2 format.

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And coming to Virgin Media on................. the day hell freezes over:)

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try the forth of never, there no way virgin could carry a UHD channel on there current network even with upgrades to h.263 encodign and DVB-C2 it would sitll struggle because the UHD takes up about 2-3 analogue channel space. even sky would struggle on current techonolgoes virgin are more able to deliver than sky but they need to use the broadband to do it

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Well the argument is this, why did VM spend thousands of pounds getting us to take V+Boxes, which are HD supplier, if they won't do HD channels, or is this another rip off the customer trick again, as if so, VM have ripped off thousands of people.

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they do, do hd channels, point is to carry the amoutn of hd channels people want ie all channels in hd we would need new box even sky cusotmer would as we all need new mpeg4 boxes

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arnt the new samsung box's mpeg4 ? :) so come on virgin roll then out

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would save them quite a bit in bandwidth and obviously would improve the picture quality for us:) they could air the SD channels in mpeg4 with aac audio too, would greatly improve picture quality, far less pixelation.

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problem is they would have over 3 million box to replace that would not be cheap dnt forget v box are mpeg 2 as well so they need rep[laced

but they do not need hte bandwidht yet they have pletny spare and will have more when analogue is shut off

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Sky HD boxes are mpeg 4 for HD & of course mpeg 2 for existing SD

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The main point is that the V+ is a PVR and that when they rolled it out were planning ahead so they had a box that is a PVR and can recieve HD, rather than having to have a seperate PVR box and PVR HD box like Sky does.

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The V+ box isn't really pushed as a HD box though its pushed as said above a PVR with the added bonus of HD on it.

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:confused: I must have an exceptional 40" Sony set then. I am blessed.

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i was talking about the fact peopel want all channels in hd, to do that they would need ot go to mpeg4 even for the sd channels so sky customer would need new boxs, i was also talkign about the future UHD where to carry one channel they need the space of 12 HD channels

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I only have a 26" TV and I can see the difference between SD and HD via the V+ Box!

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But there is a new V+ box that does do MPEG4 it's made by Samsung, just hasn't been released yet....

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i arnt botherd if its mpeg2 or mpeg4 id just like some hd channels

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it has people have it and it gets installed mostly in new premises

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It was only on trial. They aren't installing anymore at the moment.

If you look on the left at my services I have one :)

Even though it has MPEG4 capability they aren't going to be using it.

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I thought they where sitll installign them oh well, i am kind aglad i do not want one as it doe snot have rf etc. i think it got mpeg 4 for future proofijg when they eventally switch to dvb-c2 and mpeg4 so they cna have the most about of bandwidth

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The scientific atlanta was fairly future proof, and probably the king of all cable set top boxes anyway, its just that virgin haven't quite caught up yet, even the most simplest of extras like the usb port will never get enabled otherwise it would make the transfer of media too easy for anyone,and we wouldn't want to encourage simplicity, people should realise that when you cant even get teletext let alone HD this is always going to be a 2nd best service and virgin have always reiterated that their main priority is broadband and not tv and this has been proven over the last five years if not in fact longer.

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Mmm no it was not future proofed, it was just HD proof for when they decided to take it mroe seriously, if it was future proofe dit would have been mpeg4 from the begining so they could have launched bbc and itv hd in mpeg4 not mpeg2

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Virgin had the choice to go with mpeg4 but opted to use mpeg2 instead, that was the first sign of a lack of inteligence and investment in technology from virgin, what they should be doing now is replacing the old V+ and passing that onto customers with just the standard samsung set top, and introducing a V+ with the latest technology built in, including a blu-ray player and a hard drive capacity of at least the size of a terrabyte, then people might start to take them seriously but we all know its not going to happen, when you cannot negotiate to get ITV HD or channel4 when its launched you know your on a loser. Unfortunately the latest technology offering from Virgin is +1 channels which they seem to think is the icing on the cake in their tv department, I think I have now come up with a better technical offering, and it will alse free up this so called precious bandwith,why dont we scrap the normal channels and just keep the +1 channels but treat them as normal channels , I am sure it will work ,until some bright spark of course reintroduces the +1 system again.

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When I called up to ask for one to be installed, the (Indian) lady couldn't stress enough that it was hd, and I would be watching my TV in "amazing high definition". Probably a scripted response to all inquireries about the V+. I got the feeling she didn't have a great insight into hd when I asked if they would be supplying an hdmi cable and she had no idea what I was talking about.
I don't however feel ripped off by it, it does have hd programming.

Finally, I find it amazing, even hard to beleive that Japan are predicting what technology they will be using in 2080! For those not good at maths, that's 71 years away. Did anyone back in 1938 know what we'd be using to watch tv in the here and now?

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dnt talk mince, they do not need to provide a bluray player and 1tb hard disk space, sky do not have itv hd and jsut because oyu can manually tune it is not the same thing. virgin was not about when there hd box launched that was telewest, they do not need to scrap +1 channels there plent yof bandwidht to launch quite a few hd channels oin mpeg2

you clearly have no clue on how the system works

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Hello Mentalis

Now funny you should say that, it often happens when three buses turn up at the same time when you have been waiting more than half an hour.

Anyway, virgin subscribers have been promised more HD Channels before the end of this autumn, and have also been told that in order to receive them, the current V+ Decoder might have to be replaced to cope with the extra brandwidth.

What do other people think about this?

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So are you telling me the V+ HD boxes can't recieve many HD channels.. LOL Priceless...

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I can see a HUGE difference on a 32" plasma.

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Hold the phone, I can only get one HD channel on Virgin?

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They'll easily be able to support more than one channel. The current PVR's will be fine for the next few years, it won't be until the majority of channels are broadcasting in HD that the equipment will need to be replaced.

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and of coarse your the expert

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i think you mean "course" and "you're" :P

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I never stated i was perfect but andrewcrawford implied I knew nothing about V+ and the workings of it, he has no idea what I know, If he read all of the statements he should have known there was snippets of sarcasm to the running of virgin and its slowness in keeping up with the future of technology

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Well with your statement above it implys you know nothing, if you read my signature it clear states i am dsylexic so understanding scarism is really hard ot notice for me

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[quote=akki007;34817445]I can see a HUGE difference on a 32" plasma.

I can see a MASSIVE difference between SD and HD on a 19" LCD from ARGOS xD

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OK,

I see this as possibly the best thread on here and I have spoken a little out of turn about members/staff etc and when needed appologised.

I wish we could simply drop the pops at each other and in fact lets lave HD out of this thread all together - it's clearly a hung decision!

Peace

Liam

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Blessed are the peace-makers.;)

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Here, here

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This weeks list update now online - see post one.

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The BBC web site has now got this up:

Full story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8113702.stm

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it had better not be 544x576 and fullscreen! hoping for 720x576 widescreen and 4mbps+ bitrate. ESPN HD would be nice, rather unlikely i think though.

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I wouldn't be at all surprised if ESPN HD is available on Virgin Media in time for the new season. It's a given.

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I can absolutely assure you Nook that nothing is a given when it comes to HD and VM, your right that it should be a given:) but after so so many false dawns the safest bet is to expect absolutely bupkis.

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+1

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ESPN will do what they can to get a HD channel onto as many services as possible, and VM will want it too.

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VM have had the music preference option for years. It's not the 'big surprise' but it is a minor but novel improvement on other call handling systems.

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Based on what statistics?

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Moore's law describes a long-term trend in the history of computing hardware. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law

It applies equally well to most technologies.

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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

and where exactly is your source for this ? Is there even any mention of ESPN filming or even launching a HD channel ?

Not saying it isn't going to happen but with no source of confirmation you've basically just made that statement up

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Surely by now we are all aware of the distinction between Virgin Media (www.VirginMedia.com), provider of Broadband, Mobile, Telephone and Television services, and Virgin Media Television (www.VirginMediaTV.co.uk), broadcaster and owner of Living, Bravo, Virgin 1, Challenge and their variants (the Virgin Media Television Channels).

As for the UKTV channels ...

UKTV is a joint venture between the BBC's commercial arm, BBC Worldwide, and Virgin Media Television. Both companies additionally wholly-own a number of other channels, broadcast domestically or internationally.

Channels under the joint venture are Alibi, Blighty, Dave, Eden, G.O.L.D., UKTV Food, Really, Home, Watch, Yesterday plus a number of timeshift services. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Televis...d_Kingdom#UKTV)

Let's try to distinguish between VM TV (currently up for sale) which may launch HD variants of their channels (e.g. Living HD) on some or all platforms (e.g. Freeview, FreeSat, Sky, VM etc.) and VM (not currently up for sale) which may carry HD channels from a number of sources including BBC, ITV, C4, Five, Sky, VM TV and various other sport, movie and documentary channels.

There is a similar but less distict division between the Sky television channels and the Sky satellite service. You can have the Sky channels without having a Sky satellite dish by watching them on VM cable and you can have the VM TV channels (e.g. Living, Virgin 1 etc.) without having VM cable by watching them via a Sky satellite dish. Other viewing platforms, carrying a subset of both the Sky and the VM TV channels, are also available.

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So it looks as if Sky will not have the sole rights to this new ESPN channel...In which case VM really has better pull out all the stops to get it on their platform.

It may be their only chance to get (what some perceive) to be the most popular sport i.e football in High Def on their platform withbout being beholden to Sky.

If they fail to deliver ESPN HD then it really does show that

1)They dont give a stuff about us or HD
2) They will happily look a gift horse in the mouth.
3) Thy're just a bit rubbish really when it comes to TV HD

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Dont get to excited it does just say a selection of games in hd!

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I dont get excited by football... im a tennis freak myself... but its not really the point.

Where else is VM going to get top class HD sport from??? I hope they get Europsort HD and at least ill get some HD tennis but for the majority footie is where it's at...

We're not getting it from Sky so VM should be doing all they can to get it from ESPN.

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mmm how does it show that? what if espn demand 50 million for virgin ot have the rights to the hd channels you think it ok for them to pay just for a select few customer jsut liekt he sky basics? if you are willing to abosrd the extra cost if it was something liek that yourself then yeah i say if it that bad to get it then fine add it, but i certainly do not want to absord the cost jsut so select few can get a few football games in hd

i am not saying espn will demand that much but giving a example of how it doe not mean virgin do not give a stuff if they do not add it

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VM say they are serious about HD.

HD is great for Nature, Doco's and Sport.

Sport is pretty much locked into Sky which were not gonna get.

VM now have a chance to get HD Football - they would be mad to pass on the opportunity.

It's very simple.

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You never answered my question , so if espn demand 50 million for 1 channel virign should pay to prove there serious about hd? and even if it meant that all cusotmer owuld have to pay a extra £5 a month jsut for one chanenl for a select few footie fans?

if your answer is yes your clearly just want virgin to go bust or do nto care about every other subscriber and just thinkign of yourself

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Selection being the 46 games it's got the rights to.

ESPN have HD outside broadcast studios, these are often used by Sky Sports when they don't have enough of their own to cover matches (for instance the last weekend of the season ESPN provided the equipment for the Villa - Newcastle game) so it's really no problem for them to offer HD for their matches, they already have the equipment to do it.

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Can Virgin afford not to? Sky are offering HD Boxes now if you buy TVs in Tesco. Its time for Virgin to either shut up or put up. It doesn't matter if its one channel or 50 then need HD programming and not On demand HD. While HD on demand is nice its not what we are after now. What is worrying for Virgin is that Living there own channel may not end up of Virgin in HD. This head in the sand approach isnt going to wash for much longer. Business deals can be done quick if they want to.

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Virgin Media confirms ESPN talks.

Virgin Media is in talks with ESPN about its recently secured TV rights to English Premier League games.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...spn-talks.html

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Yes, they can afford not to. Quarter on quarter they're seeing reduced churn, increased subs, and higher ARPU, all without HD. Why would they then sign deals to get HD that would LOSE THEM MONEY?

VM are a business, they can only sign deals that are financially viable for them, and if channels want them to pay a sum that is not viable for them to pay then they CANNOT pay it, it doesn't matter how many posts on a forum people make saying they should get HD no matter what, they can't. It's a business, it has to make more money from offering a service than it costs to supply that service.

I'd love to see more HD on VM as much as the next person, I have a nice big HD tv that's not getting used to it's potential, but at the same time I appreciate that VM can only offer channels that it makes financial sense for them to offer, and there's no way I'd want them to sign loss making deals just to get a few more HD channels when they could get better deals in future.

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Ta for those! I can refer to them on a regular basis now.

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Yes they can afford not very easily there is only a small number demaning hd, and business sense says no do not pay over the odds for channels they done that for sky and sky had to back down in the end they could not do wihtout virign but thye could do without sky same goes here

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too late now but VM could have partnered with ESPN to get this channel as an exclusive on VM but as that tactic didn't work too well for Setanta I can't see having this channel in HD would get any viewers either, although it might stop some churn to Sky.

Any sports fan that wanted HD would already be with Sky by now so this won't really attract many new viewers

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Andrew i have already said in a previous post that i dont care for football so im not 'thinking of myself' but yet again people like you refuse to see the bigger picture.

That being the case it's pretty futile conversing with you.

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No i said if you said yes you are thinking only of yourself, youa re missing the other big picture hy shoudl virgin make a loss to add hd channels???

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You dont even know they would!!! Get a grip!

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He said should they add them at a loss just to have them, and you replied saying they should.

He's making a point that getting the channels is not as simple as "people want HD, lets get the HD channels!" but it has to be a business decision where it makes financial sense. You're ignoring that and just repeating "BUT THEY HAVE TO GET HD!" when they don't have to, they're doing fine without it.

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But can they afford to wait any longer? Can they let Sky build too much of a divide in HD? I don't think they can. In a few years time, more and more people will have HD TVs, by then if they still haven't done anything it could be too late.

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And do you know the real reason poeple will have hd tv? this might sound stupid to me, but if you go to the shops to buy a tv jsut because your want the basic terristal channels ie channel 1 to 5 you get now freeview, maybe freesat and hd as part of the package so does that mean because loads of hd tv have been sold that loads of people want hd no it means they want a new tv but it coms part of the package. when are people goign to accept only a select minioty of people want hd, myself included hence why i have always said if you want hd go to sky which i will for hd soon enouigh but i will still keep virgin because they will get hd eventally and the vod is far superior.

if virgin could not hold of any longer they would be having a lot of peopel leaving but all resultws suggest otherwise they are inceasing for tv not descreasing so hd is not a pirioty in that sense becaus ehtey can hold out.

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[QUOTE=TheDon;34819801]He said should they add them at a loss just to have them, and you replied saying they should.

/QUOTE]

No i didn't!

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[quote=Mobes;34819891]You refuse to reply so i would take that as you think they should, when you are saying they should add them at any cost mean thye should add a lostr

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Setanta Sports News to closed at 6pm tonight.

Racing UK to stay on air.

The rest may go at 6pm as well.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009...administration

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[QUOTE=Andrewcrawford23;34819896]Exactly, especially when his response to the question was "can they afford not to?" which definitely implies they should get them at any cost, regardless of if it actually makes commercial sense.

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[QUOTE=Andrewcrawford23;34819896]Then don't presume.

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Although I'm not a sports fan, I am very sorry to hear that Setanta could not be saved. If nothing else, Setanta provided the viewing public with a choice and diversity of sports coverage and the potential to keep prices for sports channels at reasonable rates through competition. Let's hope that ESPN, and possibly others, can fill the void.

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Racing UK to cost £20per-month - Still talking to Virgin.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...002784.article

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ESPN America is in talks with other platforms about securing its distribution after the collapse of Setanta's operations in Great Britain this afternoon.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcas...-collapse.html

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20 pound for that channel thats gotta be a joke who would pay that much for it

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People who subscribed to Setanta Sports through Virgin Media or BT Vision will receive pro-rata refunds, it has been confirmed.

NOTE: This will not be for Virgin Media XL viewers.

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I thought this at first, but after reading the article, for those that love horse racing there are some good incentives for subscribing to the channel.

I just hope ESPN don't adopt a similar price.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Setanta Q&A

Q. Why have Setanta stopped broadcasting some channels?
A. Due to, circumstances outside of our control some Setanta channels are no longer available on any TV service including Virgin Media, Sky, Top Up and BT Vision.
Q. What sports channels are available on Virgin Media?
A. Virgin Media is still the place to be for sport and our customers can still enjoy all the best sporting action around.
Here’s a breakdown of other sports channels available on Virgin Media:

On top of the premium channels above, Virgin TV customers can also tune into:
Sky Sports News – available to all TV customers
At The races – available to all TV customers
Eurosport & Eurosport 2 available to L and XL TV customers
Extreme Sports - available to XL TV customers
Plus this summer Virgin TV will have all the action from Wimbledon on BBC iPlayer – so you won’t miss a single game, set or match.
Q: I subscribed to the Setanta bundle. Will I still get ESPN America?
A: If you have size M or L TV and would like to continue to get ESPN America you just need to give us a call on 150 – free from any Virgin Media phone or 0845 454 1111 from any other phone and we can add it to your TV pack for £10 per month. If you have XL TV and subscribed to it previously, you don’t need to do anything, the channel will still be available to you.
Q: Will I be able to watch the football on ESPN?
A: We’re currently in talks with EPSN about their purchase of the Premier League content previously owned by Setanta. Right now we're not able to confirm whether customers with ESPN America as part of their channel bundle will get access to the Barclays Premier League Content that Setanta previously had the rights for.
Q. Will the channels be back on the air in the foreseeable future?
A. At the moment we’re unable to comment on when, or if the Setanta channels will begin broadcasting again as it’s out of our control.
Q. Where can I watch the sports events that were on the Setanta channels?
A. We are working with Setanta and ESPN to understand where the content will be available. Due to licensing agreements, some content shown on Setanta may not be available elsewhere, but should it become available on other channels, we’ll be working hard to make sure the content is available to our customers.
Q. Will Virgin Media be reducing the price of its TV packages?
A. Any customers paying for the Setanta Sports pack will no longer have any subscription fees to pay.
As Setanta Sports was included at no extra cost in TV Size XL there will be no changes to pricing for this package.
The XL TV pack still represents unbeatable value - don’t forget the XL TV pack has over 160 TV channels including Sky Sports News, At The races, Eurosport, Eurosport 2 and Extreme Sports. Plus, all XL TV customers have Music on demand and the 1000s of shows in TV Choice on demand included at no extra cost too.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Only ever subscribed to Setanta for the Indian Premiere League IPL. Anyone know whats happening with the 5 year IPL contract now that Setanta has closed down?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

The IPL contract was givving back to it owners and they will resell them again.