Re: The iPhone thread
 

I think that iTunes 'processes' them into a format more compatible with the 'phone before it transfers them.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

iPhone 4 Users will be given a free case, otherwise full refund

Re: The iPhone thread
 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...RSS&ATTR=Gizmo spin spin spin

0.55% of owners have contacted Apple? thats most likely cuz they didnt buy from Apple or its bullplop.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

thanks for that. Shame I can't drop them onto there via windows like I can with any other USB device

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I had to laugh at Jobs there, saying it happens with other phones too, lol. Then spouting all the sales stats, trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes and softening it with, here we think its fine but have a free case anyway!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I'll be getting the free case. I like my phone and I don't get the signal problem, I can replicate it but I can't do it naturally, even though I have it in my left hand a lot (using my right hand to touch screen) so I won't go for the refund.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Q&As are so funny... :D

Link

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I bought a Bumper when I bought the phone, so I'll be claiming my £25 back ;) :)

I'll then put that towards an Otterbox Defender :D

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Nokia and RIM slap Jobs' wrist over his latest press conference statements... :D

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I love RIM's comment:

And I think this point from Nokia is key:

I've seen some clips of the conference and the arrogance of Jobs epitomises why I hate him and Apple so much. Rather than being contrite they are bolshy. Yet I am sure there are plenty of fans who'll lap it up.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

It's 4.01 for the general public. 4.1 is a developer only beta at this time.

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Actually, even if they returned them to the shops, the shops would still have to contact Apple, so Apple are in a good position to know exactly how many have been returned

Re: The iPhone thread
 

but do you believe them?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Not one little bit.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

lol - http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/17/i...get-iphone-url - whatever next!?!?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

you may want to also google iBuzz

Re: The iPhone thread
 

erm.... oh... errr.....

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Taiwanese TV (of the Gordon Brown rant fame) take on AntennaGate - link

Starts off slow, but gets amusing when the lightsabers and the forcefields come out.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

The Skype app has been updated to support multitasking via iOS4. Skype have also dropped their ridiculous plan to charge extra for 3G calls.

http://blogs.skype.com/en/2010/07/ip...asking_3g.html

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Awww, there there... :D http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/0...to-a-business/

Re: The iPhone thread
 

and back to iphone


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNo91xARkW8

Re: The iPhone thread
 

The BBC trust has given approval to the launch of official BBC News, BBC Sport and iPlayer apps on both the iPhone and Android.

Initially, they are launching BBC news on iPhone, with BBC news on Android to follow, along with BBC Sport and iPlayer for both later in the year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10738882

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Bumper refunds are now being processed.

I bought mine in an Apple Store, & received an email today saying that my refund was going to be put through...

http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/case-program/


O2 has finally updated its site with details regarding iPhone 4 returns...

http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/iphone4press.html

Re: The iPhone thread
 

That's good news, I wonder how many customers will actually swap the phone for something different? I get the feeling that there won't be that many returned.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

http://judasphone.com/ :D

Re: The iPhone thread
 

:rofl:

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Jailbroken iPhones legalised in US:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07...ca_exemptions/

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yup :)

More links:


http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/8621...f-jail-is-free

http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2010/07/26

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100726/...ital_copyright

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Cool :D

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I don't think the legality of it was ever an issue for the devs, good to see that smug git Jobs getting a kick up the hole though.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I didn't think the legality of it was in question.

The developers of the hacks never (as far as I could tell) pushed them for installing pirate software. While it may (and probably does) void the warranty, I don't see that it's any more illegal than installing a non-ford approved fanbelt in a Focus..

Re: The iPhone thread
 

The DevTeam has always been very anti-warez AFAIK.

The legality was in question before, though. Never totally 100% THIS IS CLEARLY ILLEGAL, but certainly a grey area, at best.

There were previously "issues" over the status of Jailbreaking, because it involved circumventing the "technological copyright protection measures" (or whatever they call it)... something the DMCA prohibits.

The new DMCA exemption granted by the Copyright Office specifically allows it though:

There's also the use of Apple's copyrighted code, from changing the firmware. That's now allowed too though, as it's a tiny amount of code that's changed, & it's solely for this newly decreed fair use.

This is a good article on it:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...e-fair-use.ars


Console modchips are a similar issue. You own the console, it's yours to do with as you wish. But... a modchip violates the DMCA, due to it being a "circumvention measure" (it bypasses the protection & allows the use of copied games), and due to it tinkering with the copyrighted software of the console manufacturer (well, Xbox1 modchips did anyway). Not sure what the current standing is with them though...

Re: The iPhone thread
 

there is no need to install modchips in anything anymore all done in software( unless you count the r4 and their ilk as modchips)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Apple never actually took any legal action over the jailbreaks, the theory is that they didn't really mind but also didn't want to be seen to condone it. Especially as it voids your warranty.

As far as I know this doesn't stop them disabling it in software or voiding your warranty for doing so.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I just wish I could change my text message sound without jail breaking my phone. Didn't seem too much to ask ! I know you can change the ring tone but not the text one it seems

iphone 4 launches on 3 on 30th July 2010
 

The iphone 4 will launch on the 30th July 2010,

The pricing and costs are already listed on the 3 website. However,those existing customers wishing to upgrade to this phone may get a better deal.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Problems with upgrading to iOS 4 on 3Gs:

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/07/...-on-iphone-3g/

Roaming switch disabled as a result of upgrade on O2:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/29/ios4_roaming/

Re: The iPhone thread
 

My Otterbox Defender should arrive tomorrow :)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

my 3GS did a weird thing today after I put the 4OS on it. used the ipod for the first time and it played one track from an album then select the same track from the greatest hits. Then it played a song by the Who from Tommy then played the same track from Live at Leeds. Then it did the same with a Rolling Stones track. very strange

Not sure if this is just my fault for listening to the oldies :D

Re: The iPhone thread
 

And it did :)

Very nice. Adds more bulk compared to using a Bumper, but it's worth it for me for the added protection.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Have iPhone - Get tracked.

Seems like Apple are after your realtime geo location so they can track and target you with ads (and more) and if you opt out you will not have access to new apps from their store.

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/appl...-not-49305991/

http://www.radio-montreal.co.cc/priv...e-geo-location

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Is that really much different to the geolocation of IP addresses/GPS/GPRS positions that already goes on?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I think that what it is saying is that if you OPT out of this feature you will not have access to the apple store for getting new apps\songs etc, or thats how I read it. So Apple are strong-arming you into doing this geo-locate if you want to continue with full access.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

No they are not. You can still use the apple store, iTunes and so on.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I must have mis-read it then, soz.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yup, You agree to the terms and conditions and then you can opt-out. opt-out is not the same as disagreeing to the terms and conditions.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Tomatoes, Tomato's

Regardless of the way it looks its still Apple forcing things onto people whether or not you can opt out. Some people may not be savvy enough to realise this and TBH who reads the fine print on T&C's unless their anal.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

It's not the same thing. You said:

You were stating that your impression was that in order to turn this feature off you would have to go without full accress. This is not the case. You can opt-out and continue to use the entire feature set on the phone.

Also Android has been doing the same for years with mobile search and a few days ago, to much less fanfare, turned it on for advertising in applications. This is the case on your Android phone right now and has been for years because as you say, who reads the Terms and Conditions.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Whoa!

No need to get touchy, bloody hell, I just posted something that I saw elsewhere to let users of the iPhone know that there has been a change of T&C where some people may not have known & may themselves take issue with.
I can only interpret the sections I have read and I am certainly not going to get into an Android\iphone bashing conversation with you (or anyone else come to that)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I wasn't getting touchy and I don't want to get into a Android or iPhone bashing conversation either. Look at my previous posts and you'll see I quite like Android devices such as the Desire and am excited by Android 3.0.

I initially pointed out that you had indeed read the situation wrong , which was understandable given that one of those articles was poorly written.

You then objected to that and saying it was the same thing. To which I reied that it wasn't and that it is unfair that only Apple are mentioned when android have done it for years with little complaint.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

New Jailbreak from the DevTeam!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/01/o...hone-dev-team/

http://blog.iphone-dev.org/


All you need to do is visit http://jailbreakme.com/ via your iPhone's Safari browser...

Works for the iPhone 4 & previous devices, although not currently with iPads on iOS3.2.1

There are some issues with MMS & Facetime, which are being looked at by the DevTeam. Apparently one possible fix is to restore a backup in iTunes.

An FAQ:

http://claytonbraasch.blogspot.com/2...reakme-20.html

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Have you tried it? visited the link on the pc but I assume it does something else on the device. I want to update my ipod touch to 4 but dont want to lose the jb

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yeah it does show something different, it's been sitting at "Jailbreaking... Sit Tight" for me for 10 minutes now though :(

Edit: Seems to have finished now, Cydia was installed automatically, no reboot needed, very swish.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yup, you need to visit the link using Safari on the iDevice you wish to Jailbreak.

It's been taking a hammering ever since it went live, which I guess explains the slowness you've had.

I'm still pondering whether to give it a go or not.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I am letting Cydia make my life easier before I try it at least then I can go back if needed

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all worked very easy

Re: The iPhone thread
 

You can always restore back, plus you can store your hashes on Cydia, so next time Apple release a bug laden POS software update you'll be able to revert back to your previous working version easily.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yup. I've just done it... Just because I can. :D

Before JBing, I also used Umbrella to store my SHSH blobs locally:

http://thefirmwareumbrella.blogspot.com/


Jailbreakme.com... easiest Jailbreak I've ever used. Much quicker & simpler than Redsn0w & Blackra1n.

Although... given that it does it via the browser, it must be a rather dodgy hole which Apple will surely be fixing soon...

Cydia is so slow at the moment. Can't get anything to load. May just have to try & sort the rest out tomorrow.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I loaded a source and downloaded the main app to help sync stuff lol

Re: The iPhone thread
 

---------- Post added at 09:33 ---------- Previous post was at 09:31 ----------

Not sure if this has been posted already, apologies if it has but quick tip if you're on a 3G, 3GS, Ipod Touch and iOS4 and you're getting freezing, application crashing and/or slowdown problems, go into settings/general/home button/spotlight and turn off everything, seems to have worked for me.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Just done the jailbreak to test it, took 5 mins, easy

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I've read that there's allegedly a lot of this happening ;) ...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2010/08/79.jpg

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Ahaha, that's class, if only we had a local Apple store, or er .. shop that has live handsets.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

would anyone know if Virgin are going to do a micro sim, thanks

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Guy responsible for the antenna desigbn resigns...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08..._leaves_apple/

Re: The iPhone thread
 

You can laugh, but that is technically vandalism. After all, it involves altering the system software in a device owned by someone else.

Would you feel the same way if they'd smashed a window?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

its been deemed legal in the USA though

Re: The iPhone thread
 

So is writing on Walls. On stuff you own. My point is that these people are making changes to the os on devices they don't own.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

yes I agree I totally misinterpreted the picture lol I though people were going in an jailbreaking their Iphones using apples wifi or something. Guess I look thick now lol

Re: The iPhone thread
 

In fairness, it could be.. I might be wrong.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

no if you look at the picture their appear to be a secon wire looping towards the phone. I think this could be the anti theft wire perhaps?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Anyone :waving:

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Just discovered something rather neat.

The iPhone 4 supports input via a Bluetooth keyboard (same as the iPad), and (if the App being run suports it), can output to a VGA monitor via a (admittedly expensive) Dock to VGA cable.

Sadly, while Cydia has an app for jailbroken iPads (called Display Out) that mirrors the display from the iPad to the external monitor, there doesn't seem to be an equivalent for the iPhone.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Got my freebie bumper through the post today.

Whilst not having any problems reception wise without it hey its free so :tu: apple.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Flash for the iPhone 4 (& apparently also other iOS devices with an ARM Cortex-A8: the 3GS, iPad, and 3rd Gen. iPod Touch). Note: the device must be Jailbroken.



http://gizmodo.com/5607678/install-flash-on-an-iphone-4

http://www.redmondpie.com/install-fl...o-video-guide/

The above requires installing OpenSSH & doing things "the long way". If you install OpenSSH, you really should change your default SSH password, & use something like SBSettings to give you the power to enable/disable OpenSSH at will.

http://modmyi.com/wiki/index.php/SSH_on_Windows



Easy method, via adding a new source to Cydia:

http://modmyi.com/wiki/index.php/SSH_on_Windows

(beware of sources you do not know, etc. etc.)



Very very early stages, & does not work for video yet, just basic stuff.


I haven't bothered myself...I don't like or need Flash.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Apple has fixed the PDF vulnerabilty that the Jailbreakme site uses..

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/a...get-iphone-url

Re: The iPhone thread
 

ok the jailbreakme hack was easy but I am assuming the other hacks that were already about will most likely still work anyway.

I sold my ipod at the weekend so it does not effect me and I just wont update my daughters

Re: The iPhone thread
 

It probably won't affect the old method of jailbreaking (download firmware, hack it, then use itunes to install the hacked firmware). They've blocked the PDF Vuln used by the site

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I think I'll be staying on 4.0.1 ;)


Re. the "old method" of Jailbreaking:

Doesn't (currently) work on the iPhone 4, or the 3GS on iOS4.

The iPhone 4 can't (currently) be Jailbroken any way other than using Jailbreakme.com on a device running iOS4.0/4.0.1.

The only (current) non-Jailbreakme.com method for a 3GS on iOS4.0/4.0.1 is to use PwnageTool (Mac only)... and it'll only work if the 3GS has the old bootrom & has previously been Jailbroken. PwnageTool also works for the 3G, whether it's previously been Jailbroken or not.


Hopefully the DevTeam has some holes hidden away, ready to update Redsn0w once Apple releases iOS4.1...


For Jailbreakers on iOS4.0.1 (and for owners of the original iPhone, or the 1st. generation iPod Touch, both apparently ignored by Apple regarding the PDF exploit fix, even though they are just as vulnerable):

"saurik" (of "Cydia" and other things) has released a fix to patch the PDF exploit:

http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/9414...hat-apple-wont

Re: The iPhone thread
 

An interesting aside to this. Apple patched the flaw but only for recent devices. iPhone 2 isn't included. Saurik from the iphone-dev team is patching it himself.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yup. See above ;) :)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

My sister still uses my old iphone so I'll have to sort that for her.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Teach me not to read your posts properly :p

Re: The iPhone thread
 

guys, sorry to sidetrack.. but quick question

Had to change my 3G to a 3GS (call me butter fingers). Restore from backup didnt work as my backup was with a newer firmware, so when setting up the new 3GS it moaned it had to be set up as a new phone *sigh

So next way around it (i hope) is there anyway i can do a batch download of my purchased apps/music/ringtones to my phone. I have clicked "check for available downloads" but silly me for thinking it would download anything, but it didnt (at least not to my phone anyway)

i was hoping for a button saying something similar to "transfer all purchased content to connected device" but i guess logic still goes over Apples head.

any help would be much appreciated
tia
Sly

Re: The iPhone thread
 

you guys see this
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-14915187.html

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Can't you just synchronise it?

That's all I do with a new iPhone... copies over all my apps & music & anything else which is set to sync.

Not sure I've ever restored from backup.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

shocking thread..wonder if n3 can be unlocked lol:D:D:D

Re: The iPhone thread
 

No, and get back on topic. Now.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

can you get the iphone with 3 yet?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yep - http://www.three.co.uk/Phones/iPhone

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Apple patents remote disabling of jailbroken phones.

Including taking your picture & logging your location!

Link

Re: The iPhone thread
 

The article sounds a little scaremongery to me.

Apple has applied for a patent for methods to differentiate between authorised and unauthorised users, and enable unauthorised users to be locked out. One of the things which can be looked for is whether the device has been Jailbroken, but it's not a case of "Apple are going to remotely disable Jailbroken iPhones!" as some on the 'net seem to think.

Calmer article: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...-ios-users.ars

Jailbreaking your iPhone or other device is 100% legal now in the US, no more grey area. There's no way that Apple could get away with locking people out of their own legally owned & legally Jailbroken phones.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

How can the phone take a picture of you, BS IMO

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Doesn't sound that different in matters of fact to me:
My bold...

Re: The iPhone thread
 

"If the various analyses detect someone who is not authorized to use the device, it could set off a number of automated features designed to protect the device's data, suss out the offending party, and alert the device owner."

My bold ;)

It's aimed at detecting unauthorised users, & then restricting their use. It's not aimed at detecting Jailbreakers. It can see if the device has been Jailbroken, but that could not be sole grounds for "unauthorised use", given its newfound legality. Apple cannot lock you out of your own phone just because you have done something completely legal to it.

One article: "Apple Patents Remotely Disabling Jailbroken Phones"

Another: "Apple may be looking to lock out unauthorized iOS users"

Rather different.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

A word from a user of the iPhone 4 on Three... :)

Got rid of my iPhone 3G (well, it's still under the coffee table, but will go to O2 Recycle...) and managed to get one from a Three Store - eventually - about three weeks ago.

For £30 a month I'm getting unlimited texts, 1GB of data, more minutes than I know and unlimited 3-to-3 mins. The iPhone 4 16GB cost me £99 outright on a 24-month contract.

I've been really impressed by Three's network. Unlike O2, no more dodgy capacity and all connectivity dropping in and out in Lakeside, Bluewater etc.

At worst, it drops onto Orange's 2G network which is rock solid - or at least it's a good enough back-up (there was a big outage a few days ago - not that I noticed).

When they merge their networks with T-Mobile, presumably Three customers will get the best of 2G from T-Mobile and Orange and Three already site-share with T-Mobile for 3G sites - so a pretty good network to be on.

They don't offer any Wi-Fi bundled, but compared to O2 it's like being on WiFi more than 3G.

The only downside is their customer service. All out in India, all very much driven by hopeless scripts, all very difficult. Avoid if at all possible!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Why O2 recycle? I would offer more than they do.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

They offered me £125 for my old 3G (with a crack around the Dock port) that was nearly two years old.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I assume it was an 8Gb then?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

16.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

That's ridiculous