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They are not the same company that agreed the current deal with VM. They are completely different and the channel portfolio and rights now seems to be completely different, for the better - I add. BT could rightly ask for full payment, otherwise people are less inclined to join BT for their BB. If VM don't get it, then they need to do something to stem the flow of people downgrading their plans. Drop our prices we pay for example. Another reason I don't think we will get it on VM is because we haven't got Sky Atlantic. People use the example that ESPN came just before launch, but Atlantic didn't. VM considered it to be too expensive so I definitely can not see them willing to pay what BT wants for their channels. |
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Virgin are already trying something. They're trying to offer folk reductions but tying them into 18 month contracts. Beware!
Above post from a Celtic fan site discussing Virgin , BT sports and the loss of ESPN and the opinion that Virgin would be advised to pull something out the hat for their XL customers for this. People on there not overly impressed. (With Virgin not Celtic :), although in saying that.....) |
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Bextech, VM must use telephone exchanges for there phone service - am l right.
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My brother, currently out of contract with VIP, was offered £40.00 off per month if he signed a new 18 month deal. He had to drop: 1. Broadband down to 60mb 2. SKY in HD 3. SKY Sports 3, SKY Sports 4 and SKY F1 4. A few phone changes My brother didn't take the deal as he is waiting to see what is going to happen with ESPN / BT Sports. |
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We are waiting for Sky to do the half price offer again.
And then we will prob switch back to Virgin for another 50% off offer when that contract runs out. I don't care much for either just which is cheaper. Switching is best |
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I found it strange they offered a package including just SKY Sports 1 & 2 when this isn't something they appear to currently offer via their website. ---------- Post added at 20:02 ---------- Previous post was at 19:57 ---------- Quote:
I switched to SKY for 50% off. My deal runs out in December. I did notice recently that Virgin had a 1 week special being 50% off for all new customers for 12 months. Through my work, Virgin are offering 9 months for half price plus £50.00 off my first bill. I've still got both my V+HD box and my TiVo box. I tried to return them at my local parcel collection point but their scanner didn't recognise the bar code. I called Virgin 3 times to arrange uplift without success. I did get a visit from a field agent but I was out. I called his mobile a few times and left messages but never heard back from him. If I go back to Virgin I've still got my viewing cards, all the cables, my broadband hub and boxes. I could be up and running again within a phone call. |
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http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...52651&page=182 2 things that are clear from reading hundreds of posts. SKY seem to give people outrageous discounts to stop them from leaving SKY. Virgin on the other hand either offer TiVo to people for free or try to get people to downsize their package, rather than offer discounts that customers are looking for. |
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It encourages people to just phone back when the 50% runs out, even if it's not the end of the agreed deal/contract. So it doesn't actually solve anything from a business point of view - which is to build a steady income base from your customers |
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Well I wouldn't be a virginmedia customer if wasn't for the 12 months half price offer. So what's better? 50% of something and a new customer, or 50% of nothing? Lets face it, the cable is at my property anyway, why not offer me 50% off and get some income from it? I've also upgraded to 100Mb for VM now get in excess of £40 a month me. |
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However long term it's not sustainable, as there will be an element of running the account below cost to bring in connections. |
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There must be a worthwhile profit margin in it for SKY or they wouldn’t be pushing these types of rebates. It’s not like SKY are not turning over massive profits. Remember only a month or so ago Virgin, for 1 week only, where offering a 50% rebate for a full 12 months for all new customers. This shows me the likes of SKY and Virgin are ripping people off left right and centre if they can afford to give people 50% rebates for 12 months. Maybe both companies should stop offering rebates, and retention deals, and just lower package prices for everyone across the board? |
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Don't forget Sky own their sports and movies and a lot of channels and content, plus a triple play sky customer with the full package and 50% off is still paying above sky's target ARPU.
To many low tier customers on half price could lower the ARPU, that would rattle share holders. That's when it becomes counter productive. |
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I would have thought BT would have liked a piece of this action. Looks like SKY and ITV have international football all wrapped up. SKY having access to up to 500 international matches over 3 years plus 20 non-home games on ITV4. Do you think SKY will start offering international games tucked away on the red button, similar to Champions League nights? It's the only way I can see them getting through up to 500 games in 3 years. It doesn't matter how BT try to sell their offering, SKY Sports is the clear leader if you want to watch football at every level. |
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Grim reading for us Scots. Look like Scotland will be pumped on ITV, BBC and SKY in the coming months :D I can't see anything over than another 4 defeats! |
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---------- Post added at 18:21 ---------- Previous post was at 18:19 ---------- I spoke to VM because I am out of contract just to see what they would offer me. They offered me the same plan as I am now but with anytime calls for £5 less. Naturally I didn't take it up. ---------- Post added at 18:27 ---------- Previous post was at 18:21 ---------- I now need to really weigh up what to do. I could take the 6months free option on the broadband until Infinity come out. That way I may be happier with the much poorer speed. Or do I hold out and see if by some miracle VM get btsport! |
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BT TV will not challenge BSkyB dominance say analysts.
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Adrian Chiles used to be alright on BBC's Working Lunch, but on ITV Football, just doesn't feel right.
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itv is the worse for football as been for years hate watching it on there
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I might have been inclined to agree about Chiles, until heavy rain stopped the Poland v. England match last year and he had to fill over an hour of live broadcast. Which I thought he did magnificently.
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Did you Know???
Virgin Media will soon have a Sport Channel in it 'Family Tree'... Liberty Global who is set to takeover Virgin Media also own Extreme Sports Channel - On Virgin Channel 527. Channel is own by Chello Zone (Owned by Chellomedia Liberty Global) But The Extreme Brand is owned by The Extreme Sports Company. Found information @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_Sports_Channel |
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On the VM forum page:
Hi we're still deep in negotiations with BT about carrying BT Sport and there's not really much else we can say until an agreement is reached apart from that this might take a few weeks. As soon as we're able to tell you what's happening we will http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...1831826/page/4 |
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Knowing virgin it will be 2 days before the season starts leaving everybody in a mad scramble to sort out what they are going to do.
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Been on Twitter tonight and it seems that over the past week VM's account is being.absolutely bombarded with tweets asking for btsport. Quite a few are saying they will leave if they don't get it!
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I have worked for one medium sized and one major sized supermarket for half my life and the number of times customers that have asked me (a relatively lowly grunt on the shop floor) why have we stopped selling/do not sell certain lines is HUGE. I could have retired if they all gave a me pound:) I tell them why, and the response is often to blame me and take it out on me personally (like it's my idea) and say something along the lines of "well I'll take my weekly shop elsewhere." What do they expect to happen? they must think we (and VM CS teams) all have direct lines to the MD! I try very hard to remember these idiots and always smile knowingly at them as they come back in week after week and fill their trollies, it really does cheer me up on busy days:). Like VM's HQ, the guys at the HQ's of my old/current company know that if they take lines out of any shop, most customers will get a similar line in the shop. A few customers will get the line they want elsewhere and even less will take their main spend elsewhere though. Having got that off my chest, I simply can not imagine VM not carrying BT Sports. Sky will start getting jealous soon, Atlantic will soon stop being the most wanted channel for VM customers!!!:D P.S, the moral of that story is to be nice to your shop workers. If you really want us to look for something that is off-sale, ask us nicely or you will be unlikely to get it;):D |
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Assuming that BT Sport will not be available on VM, if I add Sky Sports to my XL package, can I just have it for the football season and then cancel it, or would it have to be permanent?
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And having done a quick google Premium channels: Premium channels and package upgrades must be kept for at least 30 days. You must subscribe to Sky Sports and/or Sky Movies in SD to take these channels in HD. Sky Sports 3 HD, Sky Sports 4 HD, Sky Movies Classic HD and Sky Sports News HD not included; Sky Movies Premiere +1 not available in HD. Sky premium HD channels £7 per month when subscribing to Sky premium SD channels. |
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Thank you:)
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TalkTalk chief executive Dido Harding is very open and honest with her views on BT Sports!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...-football.html “The reality is if you want premium sports you’re not going to be a TalkTalk customer. We’re not the right place for you to be and we’re really relaxed about that. “Our most frequently-watched on-demand content is Peppa Pig. That’s our market, not people who want to spend a chunk of money on premium football matches." |
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That was in the Daily Mail 2 days ago.
He's on £40,000 a show. Works out at about £1.5m actually. It's obscene. ---------- Post added at 15:47 ---------- Previous post was at 15:46 ---------- Also, just because Gary Neville has made a good transition to TV, doesn't mean Phil Neville will. Don't get why the BBC are so desperate to sign him up. |
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“Let the [Sky] games begin”
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odds on sky will put prices up in September higher cost of football means price rises
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I left Virgin in December when I was notified my package was going up in price yet again. In less than a year Virgin tried to put my monthly subscription up by around £10 or £11 :shocked: I did read that SKY Sports will be going up in price in the summer months. Last year it was a £3.25 per month increase on Virgin. If I was still with Virgin, and this years increase is similar to last years, it would be my 4th price increase within a 16 month period totally between £13 or £14. That is really pushing the boundaries of acceptability. |
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If VM do not get BT sports it will probably be over cost. If that happens, and a minor number of sports subscribers (not all 700,000 of them like you allude to:rolleyes:) decide to cancel subscriptions, it will still probably cost VM less than the (possible) overall cost of BT Sports. This will never happen though, as I believe VM will get BT sports. If you don't like my posts, fell free to block me:) ---------- Post added at 09:46 ---------- Previous post was at 09:39 ---------- Quote:
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To be fair, I think Sky will see how it goes the next few months.
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TalkTalk eyes BT Sport
TalkTalk is in discussions about distributing the BT Sport channels on YouView, as the quadplay provider moves to beef up its TV offering. TalkTalk, a shareholder in YouView along with BT, Arqiva and the terrestrial broadcasters, revealed it signed up 150,000 subscribers to the IPTV service in the first three months of 2012, taking its total base to 230,000. The ISP, which provides its high-end Talk Talk Plus TV customers with a free YouView box and subscription if they extend their contract, is focussed on offering more kids, entertainment and movie content – but sees sport as a potentially valuable addition. TalkTalk commercial director Tristia Clarke said the channels would complement its Sky Sports package, which it offers to subscribers on a monthly basis. “We’re talking to BT. As Sky do, they will look for points of distribution. The channels won’t be there for launch but we are talking to them,” said Clarke. “It would be a way to drive incremental revenue in the same way we do with Sky.” She added that 20% of TalkTalk’s TV subscribers had paid for content, with kids show Peppa Pig and Life Of Pi film among the most popular. TalkTalk also sees an opportunity to beef up its portfolio of live streamed foreign-language channels, beyond the current Star and Star Plus offering, due to the close fit with its international telephone packages. It is close to finalising a deal with aggregator Thema which distributes a raft of Arabic, African, Caribbean and Polish channels wholesale. Clarke is also keen to keep innovating and along with the launch of a mobile remote record app, plans to integrate the live streaming channels into the main YouView EPG to boost exposure form their current position in the TalkTalk portal. “People spend the majority of their time in the YouView EPG and it is a journey to the TalkTalk player,” she said. “Over time we are looking at streaming our live channels through the main EPG.” Separately, Talk Talk is planning to offer entry package customers a free basic YouView box that does not offer PVR functionality when they renew. https://www.google.co.uk/search?neww...hp.CsAPYfBZUTY |
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TalkTalk want to make their mind up don't they?!
One minute they're saying we know our customer base, we're not interested in premium sport. The next they're saying we want to sell the BT sport channels. Why the back track? They sound like hypocrites. Is it anything to do with 12% of their market share being wiped into oblivion I wonder?:D Or is it down to customers ringing them asking about it or maybe even leaving? ---------- Post added at 19:35 ---------- Previous post was at 19:34 ---------- Quote:
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That seemed to upset you and you currently feel the urge to try and stop me from having an opinion that differs from yours. Anyway, I don't come on here to have spats with adults, so I welcome your reply, but I will leave it there:) |
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