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I'm thinking that clearly the police are understandably working to a strong evidence level if Johnson just received one fine. Something like 1 fine for every 20 gatherings or something similar?

If he'd received a fine for every event then I think the chances of Starmer being fined would be a lot higher.

I know it's different police force but I'm sure the two forces will speak for consistency.

I have no skin in the game on this apart from predicting that Starmer won't get fined. If he does I won't lose any sleep over it.

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it's not even the Met investigating Starmer

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I proactively addressed that point. ;)

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Only thing with this is they've given Johnson a fine for the least 'dodgy' action. The cake in the meeting room. The bring your own bottle thing seemed worse to me, although maybe he wasn't involved enough for the police to issue a fine.

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Maybe politics has made me too cynical these days but the way the statement today seems to have worded is a little opaque here;

Reuters;
Daily Mail;
It's not a redundant question to ask here exactly how many fines Boris Johnson got as those statements seem to be more forward looking than back. My initial thought was the statement seems to say the investigation is now closed and no more fines would be issued which is what you would expect if the investigation was now finished.

If the first statement said 'Johnson's spokesman said police had confirmed that the prime minister did not receive any further fines', that is a different thing altogether

Maybe I am too jaded in my old age...

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If all he did was unwittingly get ambushed with a cake between meetings, it shows this whole thing against the PM to be the nonsense that it is.

The Gray report will be interesting. This should reveal how much, if anything, the PM knew about the other goings-on.

News reports are saying this should keep his MPs on side if that’s all he got fined for.

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And you were so sure she was having an Abba party at their flat. Do you see now why I said you should wait for the evidence? Allegations are not proof until they are tested with all the evidence.

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Don’t see how you work that out. Boris was at back to back meetings when that cake unexpectedly arrived, so it should have been regarded overall as a work event. Starmer’s booze-up, however, was after the END of the working day, and they got sloshed, according to reports I have seen. However, they are allegations at present, so we will wait and see what the investigation reveals.

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Indeed.

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It's irrelevant now bojo's in the clear, he apologised for being ambushed with a cake, all's good.

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What is the point ?

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I seriously doubt thats even remotely true.

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It is according to the police.

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In the clear for lying to Parliament to?