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of treachery and backstabbing that's followed it and the utter contempt the losing side have shown for democracy and those who chose to leave |
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I thought I'd said that both sides campaigns should be ashamed of themselves but to some the result is all that matters regardless of how much they degrade themselves and the democracy they claim to care so much about. Quote:
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Er MrK has repeatedly talked in that way the Daddy and 1andrew1 has talked in less then positive terms as well, are you seriously going to say you haven't noticed the behaviour of a lot of the media if only the constant harping on about that stupid bus banner that pretty much everyone universally agree was wrong though there has been argument over it's true meaning. Leave voters have had a fair bit of rubbish thrown at them since the vote and yes some leaver's have resorted to less then helpful language in retort probably including myself on occasion.
The arrogance of some remain supporters has been very clear and it has not been pleasant pretty much like both the campaigns that were waged during the run up to the vote. A lot has been mentioned about xenophobic little englanders pulling up the draw bridge and cutting ourselves off from the world you must recognise that language as it's been used on here and in the media. Leave voters have had all their reasons lumped into two categories those who believed the bus and those who are xenophobes not a shock that many of us get a bit angry. Where you and i do agree is on the disappointment in those on both sides who voted in total ignorance be it immigration ignorance or those who voted remain as they believed leaving meant no more roaming charges or holidays in any EU nation. There was stupidity aplenty on both sides and sadly both campaigns played to that rather then give out factual information for people that were undecided to help them make an informed choice. It was a low point in the democracy of the UK and a little embarassing but we better get used to it because campaigning on the politics of fantasy seems to be the preferred method now. |
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it's nice that we all respect each other :rolleyes: but there's a couple of thousand posts that suggest the opposite :)
and now it's only democracy with specified caveat's |
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But on the positive side of things: 1) a lot of people did take an interest in Brexit and bother to vote 2) Subsequently, a lot of younger voters who have ignored politics are now taking an interest and registering to vote 3) the fact-checking services like FullFact have surfaced which are very useful in understanding highly politicised issues. ---------- Post added at 09:43 ---------- Previous post was at 09:40 ---------- Quote:
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so really sad then [ i like this interpreting posts in different ways idea ] ;) |
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The facts about the bus banner is that it was created by a campaign group, was not government policy (far from it with DC and GO so opposed to Brexit) and could not have been a pledge or promise because the campaign group responsible for it had no power to either issue or deliver such. It's perfectly clear to those who want to see but will forever be cited by some as a broken promise which it categorically wasn't and until Brexit is completed we won't have any idea how much money will have been saved and thereby made available for public spending at HMG's discretion on the NHS or anything else for that matter. Then and only then can the figure quoted in the banner be properly judged. And here we go again - another leading remainer who just won't let it go. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40547733 It's a bit rich whining on about Brexiteers taking umbrage all time when we're subject to a diet of this sort of thing on a daily basis in spite of the referendum result. The 'letting go' has to be done by those who lost the vote not the other way around. |
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People are very much entitled to their views and opinions in the rules and constraints of a forum as we know whether they believe in Brexit or not as democracy involves free speech unless some have forgotten that as the last thing we want on here is patronising and superciliousness which IMO there has been too much of lately as yes disagree with someone else's opinion but don't bloody patronise or decry them because their view is different from somebody elses. |
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