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denphone 11-09-2019 14:04

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36009723)
Are you sure about that?

Passive smoking can affect other peoples health when smoking was allowed in pubs before it was banned and that fact is undisputable.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ths-who-report

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Passive smoking can cause premature death in non-smokers. Passive smoking increases the risk of coronary heart disease by 25-40% - almost the same level as a smoker. Second-hand smoke contains more than 7000 chemicals, with 69 cancer-causing chemicals. There is no known safe level of exposure to second-hand smoke.
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Passive smoking 'kills 600,000' worldwide. The first global study into the effects of passive smoking has estimated it causes 600,000 deaths every year. One-third of those killed are children, often exposed to smoke at home, the World Health Organization (WHO) suggeste


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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36009725)
Yep, stayed at home drinking and smoking in front of their kids . . well thought out policy wasn't it.

Oh, and improved (legislated) ventilation in separate rooms would have been enough to allow smoking in some places . . with of course the obligatory warning signs for those who were too thick to understand the difference between smoking and non smoking areas

Pretty irresponsible to smoke in front of children don't you agree?

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36009724)
Why,the non-smokers didn't suddenly rush to become pub customers and public houses started closing in droves as smokers stayed at home and bought their drink from supermarkets.

I do agree that some pubs should have been allowed to declare a no -smoking policy but to force it on all...

Public houses starting closing in droves because it was cheaper to buy booze from the supermarkets and that trend is continuing to this day.

Carth 11-09-2019 14:08

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
Not arguing with someone who can't see the bigger picture

pip08456 11-09-2019 14:11

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009726)
Passive smoking can affect other peoples health when smoking was allowed in pubs before it was banned and that fact is undisputable.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ths-who-report





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Pretty irresponsible to smoke in front of children don't you agree?

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Public houses starting closing in droves because it was cheaper to buy booze from the supermarkets and that trend is continuing to this day.

They started closing in droves because drinkers had to go outside in all sorts of weather to have a smoke. Drink was always cheaper in supermarkets.

It was a stupid decision which will have a lasting effect on communities.

Damien 11-09-2019 14:36

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
Well, my work here is done

jfman 11-09-2019 14:49

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36009730)
They started closing in droves because drinkers had to go outside in all sorts of weather to have a smoke. Drink was always cheaper in supermarkets.

It was a stupid decision which will have a lasting effect on communities.

I agree. The positive effect on health within our most deprived communities will be lasting.

daveeb 11-09-2019 15:02

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36009726)
Passive smoking can affect other peoples health when smoking was allowed in pubs before it was banned and that fact is undisputable.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ths-who-report





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Pretty irresponsible to smoke in front of children don't you agree?

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Public houses starting closing in droves because it was cheaper to buy booze from the supermarkets and that trend is continuing to this day.

Too many facts there for some Den ::)
Pubs are also closing because the latest drinking generation prefer to do other things.

pip08456 11-09-2019 15:15

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36009737)
Too many facts there for some Den ::)
Pubs are also closing because the latest drinking generation prefer to do other things.

The banning of smoking was not THE reason for pub closures but it was more than one nail in the coffin.

Hugh 11-09-2019 15:36

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
From the UK Government's Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice.

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Robert Buckland QC MP
@RobertBuckland

Our judges are renowned around the world for their excellence and impartiality and I have total confidence in their independence in every case.

12:14 PM · Sep 11, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

papa smurf 11-09-2019 15:44

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36009741)
From the UK Government's Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice.

I'm sure Iran says the same about their judges;)

Hugh 11-09-2019 16:41

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36009742)
I'm sure Iran says the same about their judges;)

So Boris is the same as Ayatollah Ali Khamenei?

Interesting viewpoint...

papa smurf 11-09-2019 16:44

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36009748)
So Boris is the same as Ayatollah Ali Khamenei?

Interesting viewpoint...

No judges are the same ,do pay attention young man ;)

denphone 11-09-2019 16:55

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36009749)
No judges are the same ,do pay attention young man ;)

But it was you that was using Iran as a example.;)

Hugh 11-09-2019 17:44

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36009749)
No judges are the same ,do pay attention young man ;)

Not sure what your point is?

The highest Law Officer in the U.K. commends our judges’ excellence and impartiality, states he has total confidence in their independence, and you compare that statement with Iran and it’s judges - so?

Anyhoo, BJ says no to NF.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49665789
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Boris Johnson will not make an election pact with Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage, Downing Street has said.

Mr Farage said his party and the Conservatives should make a deal and "together we would be unstoppable".

Two newspaper adverts set out his offer to help "secure a big Brexit majority" and to "destroy Corbyn's Labour".

But a senior Conservative source said Mr Farage was "not a fit and proper person" and "should never be allowed anywhere near government".

Mick 11-09-2019 17:54

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36009749)
No judges are the same ,do pay attention young man ;)

Correct - You have 2 out of 3 cases, saying Boris Proroguing Parliament was lawful and a Scottish Court saying not -, you got a former Supreme Court Justice, Lord Sumption saying, it's not unlawful, who's right...?

Dave42 11-09-2019 18:02

Re: PM Boris forms a government
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36009753)
Correct - You have 2 out of 3 cases, saying Boris Proroguing Parliament was lawful and a Scottish Court saying not -, you got a former Supreme Court Justice, Lord Sumption saying, it's not unlawful, who's right...?

supreme court sitting on Tuesday to decide


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