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The banks were bailed out, indeed essentially the failure of capitalism bailed out, to the tune of billions and the public at large got austerity. The 2008 economic crisis wasn’t because the council used to empty my bin once a week. |
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How do the poor, decimated, industrial towns and cities benefit from no deal over a continuing trading arrangement with our largest trading partner? |
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Really, if you do not understand all this, there's nothing I can say to make you understand. All these arguments have been stated over and over again on this forum, and frankly, it's getting really boring having to make the same points over and over again. The fact of the matter is, if all those remain-inclined voters who are attempting to stop Brexit do not understand the issues by now, it just goes to show that even if matters were set out in detail and without the fibbing at the referendum, they still would not understand. I do hope that this is the last we will see of referenda - they are too divisive and disruptive. |
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I’m going to ignore the rest of the post because, once again, you’ve answered the question you wanted to answer. Not what was asked. What benefit is there to working class Labour voters to have “no deal” over a deal? You told me you could explain; evidently you cannot. Are you making the astonishing claim that working class Labour voters didn’t know what they were voting for? |
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...dustries---an/ http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2016/06...d%27s+Diary%29 https://independencedaily.co.uk/the-...oh-no-it-isnt/ And i’m Painfully aware that with any anti-EU article, there is a pro-EU article that can debunk it and vice-Versa. However, certain areas have seen a massive decline, New Labour with Blair forcing through the Lisbon Treaty and not implementing controls ( that were available) on immigration, and generally ignoring their heartlands in these areas so much so that the BNP got a foothold. New Labour embraced the Westminster bubble Labour didn’t save this. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...1600-jobs.html But criticised Tories when it eventually went under. The days when Northerners would hang monkeys and blindly vote for any knob wearing a red rosette are happily over. |
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You usually give the impression as someone fairly switched on, but in these 2no. Posts you have been proven to be as blind and ignorant as most o/s of the M25, and certainly South of Watford Gap. And your considered response to the defining issues in the Labour heartlands ......” well you’re all racists”...... just like the 17.4 milllion others and basically anyone that wants Brexit. Yeah you and they are all just racists so no need to delve into the issues. Job done, racists, fcuk ‘em. Right what’s next? Oh yes, the destruction of democracy. |
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Any ordure emanations you are noticing may be from your own orifices. ;) *strange that you didn’t accuse Old Boy of "interrogations"... |
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Unless you are saying that these voters are irrational and bitter so will hold that against the EU despite, as you correctly point out, our Government never implementing the controls it could/should have. |
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Irrational according to whom? That is a subjective position and unless you are in their position you are in no place to call anyone irrational. |
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This is probably one of the reasons zero hour contracts came in, high turn over for little pay |
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