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denphone 23-10-2018 20:13

Re: Brexit
 
Whether one agrees or disagrees with their protest peaceful protesting is a part of democracy.

OLD BOY 23-10-2018 20:17

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35967679)
I hate to burst your MBGA bubble but many who voted Leave did not want a No Deal, WTO based omnishambles. One of the reasons why the people should have the right to be consulted now this circus is approaching the end game.

Wrong. The truth of the matter is that most leavers didn't actually analyse the method of leaving. They just wanted to leave, forging a trade deal with the EU and other countries. Simple as that.

It was always for the politicians to actually make that happen.

We do not need yet another referendum at all. Let's just get on with implementing the decision of the majority of the electorate who could be arsed to vote.

Sephiroth 23-10-2018 20:29

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35967685)
Whether one agrees or disagrees with their protest peaceful protesting is a part of democracy.

As is a referendum.

OLD BOY 23-10-2018 20:31

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35967689)
As is a referendum.

Do you not mean 'as was the referendum'?

denphone 23-10-2018 20:33

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35967689)
As is a referendum.

l never said it was not.

Sephiroth 23-10-2018 20:41

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35967691)
l never said it was not.

Pathetic.

pip08456 23-10-2018 20:43

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35967577)
Over 14,000 now :dmonk: the momentum is gathering.


over 15,000 now


over 16,000 now

23,000 now.

denphone 23-10-2018 20:44

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35967692)
Pathetic.

As far as l am concerned the referendum result should be respected but protesting is one of the freedoms of democracy whether one likes it or not.

Pierre 23-10-2018 20:47

Re: Brexit
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45954022

So here you have an unelected EU Commissioner ordering a democratically elected Government of a sovereign nation to redo their budget.

This is why many people voted Brexit.

This is the EU Commission exerting direct authority over a nations government.

I don’t have any sympathy for the Italians. They know the rules, but if they had still had their own currency and control of their own affairs there are lots of things they could have done, same with the Greeks.

How long before an Italian referendum?

papa smurf 23-10-2018 20:51

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35967694)
23,000 now.

Great news

Sephiroth 23-10-2018 20:52

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35967697)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45954022

So here you have an unelected EU Commissioner ordering a democratically elected Government of a sovereign nation to redo their budget.

This is why many people voted Brexit.

This is the EU Commission exerting direct authority over a nations government.

I don’t have any sympathy for the Italians. They know the rules, but if they had still had their own currency and control of their own affairs there are lots of things they could have done, same with the Greeks.

How long before an Italian referendum?

AKA hegemony.

1andrew1 23-10-2018 21:33

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35967697)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45954022

So here you have an unelected EU Commissioner ordering a democratically elected Government of a sovereign nation to redo their budget.

This is why many people voted Brexit.

This is the EU Commission exerting direct authority over a nations government.

I don’t have any sympathy for the Italians. They know the rules, but if they had still had their own currency and control of their own affairs there are lots of things they could have done, same with the Greeks.

How long before an Italian referendum?

Wasn't long ago leavers were predicting Portugal, Spain and the Netherlands would all leave so I guess it's time to roll out another suggestion.
As a member of the Eurozone, Italy has signed up to certain commitments and is being warned that it is in danger of breaching them. I see nothing undemocratic in that.
Like you, I don't have too much sympathy for the country. In or out of the Eurozone, I think its electoral system discourages growth. If it doesn't want to follow the rules of the Eurozone then it should leave the Eurozone.
Quote why many people voted Brexit for rules that don't affect the UK suggests that some leavers didn't know what they were voting for. That would be incorrect as they all knew what they were voting for.

Hugh 23-10-2018 21:37

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35967694)
23,000 now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35967698)
Great news

According to your previous logic, 99.97% don’t support Brexit.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...0#post35967450

Quote:

That's 99% who don't want one [i'm using the remainer calculator] to work this out ,the same calculator they all used after the referendum.


99% of the population held a sit in/not turn up protest against a peoples vote.

Mr K 23-10-2018 21:42

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35967699)
AKA hegemony.

Aren't the English one of the biggest Hegemonists in World history ?? Mind you we are of German descent ;)

The Empire has gone old chap, and so has Hitler thankfully. Together we really are stronger, alone we will be weaker without a doubt. However we'll always find someone else to blame , while producing nothing, not even Dyson products....

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35967692)
Pathetic.

Not as pathetic as that post.

denphone 23-10-2018 21:45

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35967710)
Aren't the English one of the biggest Hegemonists in World history ?? Mind you we are of German descent ;)

.

Hence the name Anglo Saxons.


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