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1andrew1 04-01-2026 10:31

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36208453)
"condemning"?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1767445707

Could someone explain the logic of "one large country attacking a smaller country and capturing its leader" could make two other large countries considering doing the same to, maybe, Taiwan or the Baltic States "think twice"?

Yes, it might make them think twice but not in a way we like! A strange choice of words.

Sephiroth 04-01-2026 11:55

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
There’s nothing wrong with thinking beyond the end of one’s nose. Farage has indeed “condemned” Trump’s action in Venezuela but, that having been done, spawns the possibilities presaged by Farage.


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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36208483)
Didnt Trump call Zelensky a dictator ?

Now there’s a thought. Trump abducts Zelensky; USA governs Ukraine; USA does the ”peace” deal with Russia; Zelensky goes on trial for a “trumped” up charge; USA organises property deals in Ukraine’ USA hold elections in Ukraine. Moldova falls to the Russians.

thenry 04-01-2026 13:59

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
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Delcy Rodriguez
Nicolas Maduro's own vice president, finance and oil minister has been tapped to replace him as president, according to Trump.

"She's essentially willing to do what we think is necessary to make Venezuela great again," Trump said.

However, in a video address, Rodriguez struck a different tone - insisting Maduro is the "only" leader and demanding his release.

Venezuela's Supreme Court ordered yesterday that Rodriguez assume the role of acting president of the country.

The court ruling said she would assume "the office of President of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, in order to guarantee administrative continuity and the comprehensive defence of the nation".

The ruling also said the court will debate the matter to "determine the applicable legal framework to guarantee the continuity of the state, the administration of government, and the defence of sovereignty in the face of the forced absence of the president of the republic".

Edmundo Gonzalez
The 76-year-old is Venezuela's recognised president-elect, according to the US previously.

French President Emmanuel Macron name-dropped Gonzalez as the person to "swiftly ensure" Venezuela's democratic transition after Maduro's capture.

Then relatively unknown, Gonzalez had taken Machado's place as opposition presidential candidate in 2024.

Officially, Maduro won a third six-year term, but after manipulation claims, the US recognised Gonzalez as president-elect.

European countries were more cautious, as most didn't officially recognise Gonzalez, instead merely refusing to recognise Maduro's claimed victory.

Gonzalez received asylum in Spain in 2024, after an arrest warrant was issued for him in Venezuela.

https://news.sky.com/story/venezuela...#liveblog-body
There's more in that post on SkyNews. The Nobel peace prize winner "doesn't have the support" according to Trump. And interim government legislation was changed in 2023.

This is going to make for a great based on a true story film.

Our governance is innocent until proven guilty. Should many slip through the cracks of the system in Venezuela you'd imagine a new lease of life but living a double life goes only so far. I can't only picture an ant farm being told to live a different way. It would become manic but then we do live a chaotic life :shrug:

Pierre 04-01-2026 19:15

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36208490)
Yes, it might make them think twice but not in a way we like! A strange choice of words.

What’s the way we wouldn’t like?

1andrew1 04-01-2026 21:51

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36208510)
What’s the way we wouldn’t like?

Removing the leaders of a regime close to them to give them control over that country.

Anonymouse 05-01-2026 03:43

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I've just read that it costs $40 just to enter the States, never mind all the info you have to hand over.

I could never afford an American holiday anyway, though I've long wanted to go. Now, though, I have just three words for Trump. The first I can't post on this forum (quite right, too), but the second and third are 'you sideways'. You get the idea, I'm sure. :mad:

I doubt I'm alone. Let's see what happens to their tourist industry.

I haven't had a holiday since '16. I might go somewhere this year, my tiredness notwithstanding. I'll have to do research first, though. The USA isn't the only tourist-unfriendly country. The EU countries which don't want tourists - well, I can see their point in some cases, but their position makes no sense whatsoever when you consider their economies depend on tourism.

How friendly is Dubrovnik these days? Back in '86 the Yugoslavs (as they were then) were friendly. Doing my bit for their economy, I bought a hand-carved chess set. I'd love to visit (more likely, given my financial situation, the most I can afford to do is pass by) Casino Royale. Not to gamble, I'm not that stupid, just to see it.

(As part of a UFO tale on Fanfic.net, "Shaken And Stirred", I wrote a story inspired by Bond - which included a petite, slightly top-heavy, randy, blonde, bisexual Croatian receptionist!)

I hope I can get something to eat, though - the local food mostly didn't agree with me (plus too much garlic and thin soup) and I lost nearly a stone on that holiday. On getting home I virtually inhaled a bowl of soup. :p:

Paul 05-01-2026 04:11

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Dubrovnik was fine when we holidayed there for a week, back in 2019.

Hugh 05-01-2026 07:36

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Dubrovnik (and Montenegro) were fine in July ‘22 when we had a week there - cuisine was fairly "international" (lots of varied restaurants in the Old Town), but not cheap (not Central London prices, but not cheap).

We’ll probably go back again.

papa smurf 05-01-2026 08:39

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Cleethorpes is fantastic for international food

Fish n chips
kebabs
pizza
pasta
indian
chinese
American

1andrew1 05-01-2026 08:52

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Montenegro was a lot cheaper than Dubrovnik when we went 10 years ago. Portugal is one of the cheaper places in Europe to go at the moment. Yes, you can head east to Bulgaria and Romania but the flights are longer and more expensive.

Carth 05-01-2026 09:21

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36208521)
Cleethorpes is fantastic for international food

Fish n chips
kebabs
pizza
pasta
indian
chinese
American

Definitely ranks higher than Mablethorpe :tu: :D

Paul 05-01-2026 14:35

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36208522)
Montenegro was a lot cheaper than Dubrovnik when we went 10 years ago.

Yeah we went into Montenegro & Serbia for a day trip while we were in Croatia. Both were quite cheap then.

Hugh 06-01-2026 20:17

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Well, there goes NATO - looks like Putin’s plan is working…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyg1jg8xkmo

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US discussing options to acquire Greenland, including use of military - White House

President Donald Trump has been discussing "a range of options" to acquire Greenland, including use of the US military, the White House said.

In a statement, the White House told the BBC that Trump had made clear that acquiring Greenland was a "national security priority".

"The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilizing the US military is always an option at the Commander-in-Chief's disposal," the White House said.


thenry 06-01-2026 20:27

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
:woot:

Hugh 06-01-2026 20:39

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Putin simp…


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