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RichardCoulter 29-06-2014 20:54

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The whole of the last two Saturday evenings have been wrong on the V+ for Channel 4. Oddly, the +1 variant appears to have been correct :confused:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...out-synch.html

spiderplant 29-06-2014 21:53

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 35710678)
My understanding is that this change in schedule was known about well over 24 hours in advance. My TiVo did not update.

Can you go back in the guide and check all the BBC1 channels (101, 108, 851, 861-4, and 858 if you have it) and see if any of them updated?
Also, which region are you in?

MalteseFalcon 29-06-2014 22:24

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I agree, it sucks. They catered for those who wanted reminders even though it wasn't really a feature that needed adding. So why can't they develop and add something that actually a lot of people would like to see added and serves more functionality than stupid reminders. A TiVo has 3 tuners, so a reminder is not really needed.

GrimUpNorth 29-06-2014 22:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35710701)
I agree, it sucks. They catered for those who wanted reminders even though it wasn't really a feature that needed adding. So why can't they develop and add something that actually a lot of people would like to see added and serves more functionality than stupid reminders. A TiVo has 3 tuners, so a reminder is not really needed.

Sorry Mark, but I use 'stupid reminders' more often than I've had problems with the EPG being incorrect. The reminder feature was a definate oversight, accepting their mistake and adding the feature was a good move by VM.

Cheers

Grim

theone2k10 29-06-2014 22:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35710701)
I agree, it sucks. They catered for those who wanted reminders even though it wasn't really a feature that needed adding. So why can't they develop and add something that actually a lot of people would like to see added and serves more functionality than stupid reminders. A TiVo has 3 tuners, so a reminder is not really needed.

Sky+hd uses reminders but that seems to be able to update correctly,as does Freeviews EPG too, it's laziness from whoever operates virgin medias EPG that's the problem.

Dash: CF noob 29-06-2014 23:50

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Couple of issues of note this week, swtsmbo recorded Afterlife the other night and the recording stopped a few minutes short, not sure why, luckily it was available on catch-up.
Syfy+1 had a 2 hour film listed as running from 20:00 till 01:00 Thursday or Friday and had her confused when it finished at 22:00 and Star Trek came on HAHA, on the v+ by the way.

andy_m 30-06-2014 06:56

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Four updates a day are all well and good, but, for example, during a world cup or Wimbledon, shouldn't there be somebody waiting to see if there's extra time or Murray's been moved to BBC One to give a live update? These short notice epg changes are generally predictable I would have thought.

vincerooney 30-06-2014 07:09

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Morning all another quiet week ahead i'd imagine until the world cup finishes....

gizuk 30-06-2014 07:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35710722)
Four updates a day are all well and good, but, for example, during a world cup or Wimbledon, shouldn't there be somebody waiting to see if there's extra time or Murray's been moved to BBC One to give a live update? These short notice epg changes are generally predictable I would have thought.

But the updates are initiated by the Tivo and can't predict what to do.

andy_m 30-06-2014 08:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gizuk (Post 35710731)
But the updates are initiated by the Tivo and can't predict what to do.

The impression I got from Spiderplant based on his "wait until after 7pm" advice was that the four epg updates are scheduled? At the very least with a world cup on couldn't TiVo be set to updatevat, say, 1850 and 2250 (give or take 5 or 10 minutes). Which would be generally when extra time would be starting if required. It must be live sport overrunning which contributes most to this issue.

RobboEdin 30-06-2014 09:19

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35710752)
The impression I got from Spiderplant based on his "wait until after 7pm" advice was that the four epg updates are scheduled? At the very least with a world cup on couldn't TiVo be set to updatevat, say, 1850 and 2250 (give or take 5 or 10 minutes). Which would be generally when extra time would be starting if required. It must be live sport overrunning which contributes most to this issue.

That unfortunately was bad advice as peoples' four updates each day are at different times.

If someone advises that their epg has been updated to fix something, like this Casualty re-schedule, you should:

1. Check whether your epg has been updated also and, if not,

2. Initiate a network connection, don't wait on your next scheduled one.

BenMcr 30-06-2014 09:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35710706)
Sky+hd uses reminders but that seems to be able to update correctly,as does Freeviews EPG too, it's laziness from whoever operates virgin medias EPG that's the problem.

The number of times that TiVo updates has been increased since it was launched because of the issue of events moving.

However I would expect it would require a significant change to how TiVo works to introduce a fully dynamic EPG - remember than any change to what is in the EPG, even something as simple as which Episode is being broadcast, can cause TiVo to review all it's recordings (planned and suggestions) and wishlists for conflicts, and then to search out alternatives.

Changes to the Sky+HD or Freeview EPGs won't have as much cross-dependency.

MalteseFalcon 30-06-2014 10:04

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True, but I suggest that a dynamic EPG would be appreciated more than reminders.

Anypermitedroute 30-06-2014 10:07

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until the £5 charge is removed I will never consider TIVO, if they start making additional new channels TIVO only then that would force my hand but until then

BenMcr 30-06-2014 10:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35710762)
True, but I suggest that a dynamic EPG would be appreciated more than reminders.

Reminders were easy to do as they are just basically recordings with a pop up, so don't really change the core Tivo experience, so can be Virgin Media specific.

Doing a dynamic EPG would be a core TiVo change, and would have to be done worldwide for all versions of TiVo, along with major changes to the TiVo datacentres to support the extra traffic.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35710763)
until the £5 charge is removed I will never consider TIVO, if they start making additional new channels TIVO only then that would force my hand but until then

The £5 has been rolled into the bundle price for a couple of years now, in both the previous Collections and the current bundles.

You'd only get charged it if you just swapped out your V+ HD for TiVo, but as you going to recontracted for TiVo anyway, you'd probably get a better bundle deal at the same time, which would likely cancel the £5 out anyway.


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