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BenMcr 31-08-2021 15:18

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36091494)
I didn’t bring up any of his papers on COVID, You did.

I wasn’t talking about COVID, there’s another thread for that. Perhaps you could post things there yourself and argue with yourself about what you have posted?

Why wouldn't you pay attention to what someone has wrote on other subjects?

Pierre 31-08-2021 15:33

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36091498)
Why wouldn't you pay attention to what someone has wrote on other subjects?


I would read each paper individually and critique it for the subject it is covering.

I wouldn’t blindly accept or dismiss, wholesale, his opinions or findings either way based on previous or subsequent publishing’s as that would be quite an ignorant approach.

pip08456 31-08-2021 15:33

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36091489)
It's a great essay. It was/is bad enough in the UK/ Western Europe and the US. but I certainly don't think anyone in Australia and NZ would disagree with.

I stopped reading when I got here.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1630420298

Hugh 31-08-2021 15:51

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36091500)
I would read each paper individually and critique it for the subject it is covering.

I wouldn’t blindly accept or dismiss, wholesale, his opinions or findings either way based on previous or subsequent publishing’s as that would be quite an ignorant approach.

If someone has bat-shit crazy theories on a number of subjects, the likelihood is that he’s bat-shit crazy, thereby tainting anything they write - assuming someone who writes a lot of bat-shit crazy stuff is rational because they write something that supports your views, is an "interesting" approach.

If one doesn’t take things in context, that would be quite an ignorant approach…

Carth 31-08-2021 16:12

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I've got no problems with people being bat shit crazy, as long as they don't start overloading my sensory reception areas with stuff my IQ can't handle.

If that happens, I simply move to a different life preserving module on a separate deck of the mothership ;)

TheDaddy 31-08-2021 16:13

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36091475)
UBI or some equivalent will become a necessity in the future. Autonimous vehicles doesn't just mean no more need for HGV drivers but every driver be it a taxi, bus or even train driver.

Automated production in factories will also drive down the need for people to be employed. That's millions with no form of income or any chance of getting one.

A dystopian future indeed but nothing to do with politics, thankfully it won't get to that extreme in my time.

Politics, Local Government etc, will possibly the only future employment, what happens to the rest of the population then? Allow them to starve to death?

I don't think it'll be that bad, vehicles will always need someone in the drivers seat in much the same way planes need a guy sat in the pilots seat, they need the accountability for insurance, driverless cars have already been responsible for killing pedestrians

Carth 31-08-2021 16:23

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
hehe, we can send a driverless probe thousands of miles to land on a fast traveling rock in space, but delivering potatoes to the local Tesco requires the human touch ;)

TheDaddy 31-08-2021 16:25

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36091515)
hehe, we can send a driverless probe thousands of miles to land on a fast traveling rock in space, but delivering potatoes to the local Tesco requires the human touch ;)

It does in terms of liability...

Carth 31-08-2021 16:31

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36091516)
It does in terms of liability...

Liability . . the same as everything else, that when it starts to cost more than it's worth, it gets abandoned ;)

pip08456 31-08-2021 16:36

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36091515)
hehe, we can send a driverless probe thousands of miles to land on a fast traveling rock in space, but delivering potatoes to the local Tesco requires the human touch ;)

We can also send a supply capsule to the ISS that will automatically dock while travelling at 17,150 miles per hour.

Carth 31-08-2021 16:38

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36091523)
We can also send a supply capsule to the ISS that will automatically dock while travelling at 17,150 miles per hour.

Bit of a liability there if it goes wrong . . . isn't there? ;)

pip08456 31-08-2021 16:42

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36091524)
Bit of a liability there if it goes wrong . . . isn't there? ;)

Don't know, ask the insurance company.:)

Carth 31-08-2021 16:49

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36091527)
Don't know, ask the insurance company.:)

Good idea . .

'hello, I'd like to claim for a vehicle accident'
'certainly sir, are you the registered keeper of one of the vehicles involved?'
'err umm'

mrmistoffelees 31-08-2021 17:11

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36091516)
It does in terms of liability...


Not to mention the ethics side of a fully automated driverless vehicle.

I'm sure we've all seen/heard the scenario before

In a crash scenario, one of the following must occur

1. The driver is killed
2. A pedestrian is killed
3. The occupants of another vehicle are killed.

How does 'AI' make the decision as to who dies

papa smurf 31-08-2021 17:14

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
[QUOTE=mrmistoffelees;36091531]Not to mention the ethics side of a fully automated driverless vehicle.

I'm sure we've all seen/heard the scenario before

In a crash scenario, one of the following must occur

1. The driver is killed
2. A pedestrian is killed
3. The occupants of another vehicle are killed.

How does 'AI' make the decision as to who dies[/QUOTE]

graded on class :shrug:


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