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Hugh gave a very good answer.

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Normal service resumes…;)

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1789554393

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 

would anyone like a sour grape:rolleyes:

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Are you sourcing them from the same turquoise blue website that sells 'playing the victim' scripts? ;)

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Pretty sure that 'parody' just means someone is taking the pee, but yes that's probably quite normal for social media ;)

I thought they were only available for Remain voters?

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John 8:7

No, unfortunately Leave voters bulk-purchased them all when they didn’t get the outcome they were promised by those who had no plan to deliver… ;)

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 

Made no comment about either of these things , however in this case I feel the ms should resign, in Wales the vote was for the party not the candidate.

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Actually, the two donating millionaires are British citizens, they have the right to vote and they are living in this country, paying their taxes.

Many union members don’t even realise that some of their money is being used to go to Labour. There was a news item about this on the Beeb a few days ago.

In any case, this is just a blatant attempt by Labour to prevent the newcomer that is Reform UK from competing on the same footing as them. I think most people can see through this.

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You talk as if only Reform UK has this sort of problem! It happens a lot to other parties, but they don’t get the same kind of publicity as Reform get, which is then used to try to make them sound irrelevant.

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We should limit political donations, including to Labour. And our politicians shouldn't take money that could influence them. Be that Starmer getting free clothes and concert tickets or Farage getting £5 million.

It's inviting corruption and, once again, it's not in our interests to have political parties or politicians owing something to those who have all the money. A crypto-billionaire is not nessaily concerned with how the other 99% of us live.

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I do get the reasoning behind your post, but the practicalities and unintended consequences are quite a problem.

"We should limit political donations....."

Limit the amount of a single donation or the total that can be donated to a party?

"And our politicians shouldn't take money that could influence them."

Well yes of course not, but how can you prove that a particular donation influenced them?

"it's not in our interests to have political parties or politicians owing something to those who have all the money. A crypto-billionaire is not nessaily [sic] concerned with how the other 99% of us live."

Absolutely true, but how to guard against this? I think that the current system of making all gifts to politicians or parties, disclosable, in a register that is freely available to all voters, is the fairest solution. Everyone is free to donate as much as they want to whoever they want, but it's open, everyone can find out about it. Let the electorate decide if they think that the politician was bought, and vote accordingly.

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Up for either. Certainly the first one. I don't really have a problem if a party has a lot of small donations because they're not in hock to any single one of them, but you need to make sure it's not open to abuse. There is already a limit on how much you can spend in an election as well.

You can't, so I think the 'gifts' they are legally allowed to get should be very limited.

Maybe pay them more, but no 2nd jobs unless it's in the public sector (doctors need to practice to maintain their licence, for example), and no personal donations. Not even the fee for being on Have I Got News For You, that has to go to charity.

As I said, you just ban it. There is certainly no good reason to allow politicians to get expensive personal donations as gifts; I doubt they were getting them for being great guys.

They're public servants; they should be paid by the public. If they don't like it and would rather be rich then being in charge of the laws that govern us isn't for them.

I'll admit I don't care too much about the small-ticket items. Not going to lose sleep if someone wants to buy Farage a Wimbledon ticket or some whiskey, but getting millions of pounds is a joke; how is that not dodgy?

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Recently living in this country…

https://www.thetimes.com/article/92b...0bf4633b2c5f9a

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where was all the moaning about donations before reform scooped the jackpot

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It was already a concern hence the legislation that was already underway.

Afraid Nige is going to have to give the foreign crypto cash back. He'll have to rely on his personal charm. Good luck. He'll have the amphibian vote, looks more like Kermit every day. Not like Andy, who is coolio :)

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 

Well, the Representation of the People Bill currently going through the Lords was introduced in February 2026, before Reform’s major donors decided to move back to the UK after decades of living abroad to avoid paying taxes, to fund the Party that has promised to change the laws that would directly benefit those donors by hundreds of millions each year, and the limitation of donors (ban crypto-asset political donations, caps overseas elector donations at £100,000, and shifts company donation testing from revenue to profit) was part of that Bill…