Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35967487)

Sorry, I have just been enjoying the show. On what you ask? Well I could talk about:

• A campaign run by criminals
• A campaign lead by Liars and Charlatans
• A proposal to restructure the economy based on no, yes zero, planning
• A backdrop of years of right wing media lies about the EU and immigrants
• dog whistle racism used to encourage anti-immigrant hysteria
• the fact that immigration from outside the EU has always been higher, in some years much higher, than from the EU
• the fact that our Government has had the ability for some time now to control EU migration but chose not to use it
• the fact that the country was not told that the vote would leave them, and the country, poorer

Yes, the list is endless but all of this does not matter one whit. You see, this is a religious thing. It always has been. Facts and evidence mean nothing if you have Faith. They are, by definition, incompatible.

Here is a Leave voter that represents the end of the Leave spectrum but he really believes this stuff and there are a lot like him:

"Let's get back to being the British Empire" - this leave voter at the #SaveBrexitRally in Harrogate explains why he doesn't want a #PeoplesVote

Yes, I know, I will get the same old crap about "I know what I voted for", "the EU is corrupt" and "Jean-Claude Juncker ate my goldfish" but I don't care.

This whole process is a Tory debacle: a rats in a sack civil war that is taking the country down with it. I for one am not happy to watch this play out and do nothing. I did my bit and I am proud of it. I stood up for what I think is right.

Last thought, for the literal amongst you: if you have a march of 500,000 that means there are many, many more in the country who support you: those who could not make the journey for myriad of reasons.

This is democracy in action: the people trying to stop the country being taken down by a cabal of elites, political opportunists and free market capitalists.

Time for dinner :)

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35967469)

It means that there's only 5% yet to go, most of which concerns the NI border issue.

Both Barnier and May agree on that figure.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35967493)

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35967487)

Sorry, I have just been enjoying the show. On what you ask? Well I could talk about:

• A campaign run by criminals
• A campaign lead by Liars and Charlatans
• A proposal to restructure the economy based on no, yes zero, planning
• A backdrop of years of right wing media lies about the EU and immigrants
• dog whistle racism used to encourage anti-immigrant hysteria
• the fact that immigration from outside the EU has always been higher, in some years much higher, than from the EU
• the fact that our Government has had the ability for some time now to control EU migration but chose not to use it
• the fact that the country was not told that the vote would leave them, and the country, poorer

Yes, the list is endless but all of this does not matter one whit. You see, this is a religious thing. It always has been. Facts and evidence mean nothing if you have Faith. They are, by definition, incompatible.

Here is a Leave voter that represents the end of the Leave spectrum but he really believes this stuff and there are a lot like him:

"Let's get back to being the British Empire" - this leave voter at the #SaveBrexitRally in Harrogate explains why he doesn't want a #PeoplesVote

Yes, I know, I will get the same old crap about "I know what I voted for", "the EU is corrupt" and "Jean-Claude Juncker ate my goldfish" but I don't care.

This whole process is a Tory debacle: a rats in a sack civil war that is taking the country down with it. I for one am not happy to watch this play out and do nothing. I did my bit and I am proud of it. I stood up for what I think is right.

Last thought, for the literal amongst you: if you have a march of 500,000 that means there are many, many more in the country who support you: those who could not make the journey for myriad of reasons.

This is democracy in action: the people trying to stop the country being taken down by a cabal of elites, political opportunists and free market capitalists.

Time for dinner :)

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35967495)

We all know that this is mainly about the NI border and the backstop. Nothing else to see here.

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35967476)

Is it too early to apply for a visa to visit Paris in the spring?

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35967509)

Have IQ’s suddenly dropped on this forum?

A second referendum, which won’t happen but if it did, would have to take place before March next year. Also a bill would have to passed in parliament to repeal the withdrawal bill. Or at least to say if the country voted to remain to repeal the withdrawl bill.

I don’t see that happening in 5 months.

Therefore we will leave in March with, or without, a deal. Any second referendum would have to take place when we’re outside of the EU, which would mean having to negotiate re-entering the EU. Which would mean joining the single currency and a shed load of other things we opted out of when we were members.

We are leaving in March 2019. There is nothing that can be done to stop it. It would be unlawful.

Failure to grasp this concept is mind blowing.

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35967500)

So on what I asked you have no answer for.

All I want to know is what is this peoples vote you marched for?

What is the vote you actually want, if its on the deal what from do you want it to take and what do you expect to achieve?

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35967513)

The losers March on Saturday wasn't about a vote on the deal - the Stop Brexit posters showed the lot of them for what they are, abusers of democracy, they want another vote with the option to Remain in the EU. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35967509)

Have IQ’s suddenly dropped on this forum?

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35967487)

Sorry, I have just been enjoying the show. On what you ask? Well I could talk about:

• A campaign run by criminals
• A campaign lead by Liars and Charlatans
• A proposal to restructure the economy based on no, yes zero, planning
• A backdrop of years of right wing media lies about the EU and immigrants
• dog whistle racism used to encourage anti-immigrant hysteria
• the fact that immigration from outside the EU has always been higher, in some years much higher, than from the EU
• the fact that our Government has had the ability for some time now to control EU migration but chose not to use it
• the fact that the country was not told that the vote would leave them, and the country, poorer

Yes, the list is endless but all of this does not matter one whit. You see, this is a religious thing. It always has been. Facts and evidence mean nothing if you have Faith. They are, by definition, incompatible.

Here is a Leave voter that represents the end of the Leave spectrum but he really believes this stuff and there are a lot like him:

"Let's get back to being the British Empire" - this leave voter at the #SaveBrexitRally in Harrogate explains why he doesn't want a #PeoplesVote

Yes, I know, I will get the same old crap about "I know what I voted for", "the EU is corrupt" and "Jean-Claude Juncker ate my goldfish" but I don't care.

This whole process is a Tory debacle: a rats in a sack civil war that is taking the country down with it. I for one am not happy to watch this play out and do nothing. I did my bit and I am proud of it. I stood up for what I think is right.

Last thought, for the literal amongst you: if you have a march of 500,000 that means there are many, many more in the country who support you: those who could not make the journey for myriad of reasons.

This is democracy in action: the people trying to stop the country being taken down by a cabal of elites, political opportunists and free market capitalists.

Time for dinner :)