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ianch99 18-06-2019 08:26

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35999424)
I wonder what the going rate is for a vote ? and what is the punishment if you get caught?

Cambridge Analytica got a fair bit but there is no punishment when caught ..

papa smurf 18-06-2019 08:31

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35999502)
Cambridge Analytica got a fair bit but there is no punishment when caught ..

What election did they vote in ?

Chris 21-06-2019 12:47

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Well it’s hit the fan now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48720176

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A by-election will be held in Brecon and Radnorshire after 10,005 people signed a petition to remove the constituency's Conservative MP, Chris Davies.
Mr Davies had been convicted of a false expenses claim in March.
His majority was over 8,000. The Limp Dums will fancy their chances because they held it until 2015, but this part of Wales recorded a massive Brexit Party vote in the Euro elections last month. If the Tories are sensible, deselect Davies and run with a candidate who does nothing but promise that Boris will deliver Brexit they should hold it. In any other scenario I think there’s a real chance of Brexit splitting the vote and letting the Lib Dems back in.

1andrew1 21-06-2019 13:15

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35999826)
Well it’s hit the fan now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48720176



His majority was over 8,000. The Limp Dums will fancy their chances because they held it until 2015, but this part of Wales recorded a massive Brexit Party vote in the Euro elections last month. If the Tories are sensible, deselect Davies and run with a candidate who does nothing but promise that Boris will deliver Brexit they should hold it. In any other scenario I think there’s a real chance of Brexit splitting the vote and letting the Lib Dems back in.

Along with Peterborough, this sends the right message to MPs - you can't break the law and expect to remain as an MP.

papa smurf 21-06-2019 13:21

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35999827)
Along with Peterborough, this sends the right message to MPs - you can't break the law and expect to remain as an MP.

Tory leadership candidate Jeremy Hunt said: "Whatever the rights and wrongs of his expenses claim I have only ever know Chris Davies as a decent and honest man and a very diligent local MP.":shocked:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48720176

denphone 21-06-2019 13:29

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35999828)
Tory leadership candidate Jeremy Hunt said: "Whatever the rights and wrongs of his expenses claim I have only ever know Chris Davies as a decent and honest man and a very diligent local MP.":shocked:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48720176

He broke the law just like the Labour MP for Peterborough so it was pretty inevitable what course of action would transpire.

Mr K 21-06-2019 13:35

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35999826)
In any other scenario I think there’s a real chance of Brexit splitting the vote and letting the Lib Dems back in.

Well that's our 'Parliamentary democracy' for you old chap ;)

Chris 21-06-2019 13:55

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35999830)
Well that's our 'Parliamentary democracy' for you old chap ;)

Er no, that’s our simple majority electoral system for you (aka ‘first past the post’, although that’s meaningless in the context of a single constituency by-election).

Our power structure, in which Parliament is sovereign, would still be the same if constituencies used a proportional voting system.

1andrew1 21-06-2019 15:34

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
I wonder if Remainer Mark Field will be the next MP out of the door?
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Mark Field has been suspended as a Foreign Office minister after grabbing a female Greenpeace activist at a black-tie City dinner.
The MP has apologised for confronting Janet Barker and marching her away as protesters interrupted a speech by Chancellor Philip Hammond.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48718725

Chris 21-06-2019 15:46

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35999845)
I wonder if Remainer Mark Field will be the next MP out of the door?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48718725

Unlikely. The protester doesn’t want him to be charged (the CPS can do so anyway but probably won’t in the absence of a complaint).

There’s been a lot of froth from the usual suspects today, and I think those people should ask themselves if they’d still have the pitchforks out if the protester had been a man, or the MP anyone other than a white, middle-aged Tory.

Yes, he went in hard but it’s pretty obvious from the video that he became a lot more restrained in his actions as he became more confident she wasn’t concealing a bomb or a weapon.

1andrew1 21-06-2019 16:03

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35999846)
Unlikely. The protester doesn’t want him to be charged (the CPS can do so anyway but probably won’t in the absence of a complaint).

There’s been a lot of froth from the usual suspects today, and I think those people should ask themselves if they’d still have the pitchforks out if the protester had been a man, or the MP anyone other than a white, middle-aged Tory.

Yes, he went in hard but it’s pretty obvious from the video that he became a lot more restrained in his actions as he became more confident she wasn’t concealing a bomb or a weapon.

I'm inclined to agree with you that this won't go much further.

denphone 24-06-2019 12:39

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35999826)
Well it’s hit the fan now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48720176



His majority was over 8,000. The Limp Dums will fancy their chances because they held it until 2015, but this part of Wales recorded a massive Brexit Party vote in the Euro elections last month. If the Tories are sensible, deselect Davies and run with a candidate who does nothing but promise that Boris will deliver Brexit they should hold it. In any other scenario I think there’s a real chance of Brexit splitting the vote and letting the Lib Dems back in.

It seems they have not listened to your advice Chris.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48736879

Damien 24-06-2019 12:40

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
I can't think why they would want to run the guy whose been convicted.

denphone 24-06-2019 12:41

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36000232)
I can't think why they would want to run the guy whose been convicted.

Very strange decision in my view.

1andrew1 24-06-2019 12:58

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
The Conservative Party has been making strange decisions ever since Cameron called the referendum, which mostly involve shooting themselves in the foot. This one tops them all for stupidity, though.


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