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1andrew1 28-08-2017 23:17

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35914285)
I cannot understand what more his opponents want him to do.

He signed a disaster proclamation (possibly quicker than any other President) as soon as the Governor of Texas appraised him of the situation and need.

This released vital funds and support from Federal agencies to both the state and counties within.

So far, Trump's come out of the situation well. The possible challenges he might face are:
  • His climate change scepticism which won't play well with insurers, infrastructure companies and others impacted by the floods. Their businesses are being directly damaged by climate change and they will expect the Government to work to reduce climate change, not to appease the oil and mining companies.
  • His removal of environmental flood standards. Obviously, these did not contribute to the Houston floods but he may get criticised for this move. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7916476.html
  • Further funding. Can he persuade Congress to provide it?
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    The scale of this disaster is expected to prompt calls for a federal relief package worth tens of billions of dollars. It would have to be approved by Congress, which has shown little appetite for cooperation during Mr Trump’s first seven months in office and which has argued about past disaster spending.
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/w...cane-fjxjk5239

Ignitionnet 29-08-2017 11:02

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35914240)
I look at this in another way. Trumps critics, (and he has many) would argue that with his ego and need for large crowds of support, there is no way he would select a venue that has less than a 5,000 people capacity.

That venue with that capacity was one he used in 2015. A different venue so not the same scene, and nowhere near the size of the one he used a week ago.

He exaggerated the turnout at the 2015 rally at the time as well, naturally.

Damien 29-08-2017 13:14

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35914240)
President Bush Jr. viewed the damage left by Katrina from a window on Air Force One and allowed the Press to take a photo of him doing it. It was a PR disaster for him, as it gave the impression he was 'disconnected and distant' from the damage far below him.

Not just that but when it becomes clear FEMA was not able to cope with the disaster his administration was very slow to react. Really there isn't too much for the White House to do in these cases aside from approve funding. Instead the success of the response is in the hands of the emergency services and government agencies. There was a lack of planning before hand and a inadequate response afterwards.

Since then these agencies are much better the response and you can see that with how remarkably effective the Texan emergency services have been. They were out on boats quickly, there are places to keep people that aren't as unsanitary as Katrina was and all the services work together.

Looking back it's still borderline criminal what happened at Katrina. It was worse than what Texas is getting but the response now compared to then shows how many people died needlessly.

Osem 29-08-2017 13:28

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35914285)
I cannot understand what more his opponents want him to do.

He signed a disaster proclamation (possibly quicker than any other President) as soon as the Governor of Texas appraised him of the situation and need.

This released vital funds and support from Federal agencies to both the state and counties within.

I can - they want him to pay for being elected and remove him from office. They don't like his style and they don't like the threat he represents to their interests. I dare say they'd complain if he went to Texas and started wading around in the floodwaters helping the victims...

pip08456 29-08-2017 13:56

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35914393)
I can - they want him to pay for being elected and remove him from office. They don't like his style and they don't like the threat he represents to their interests. I dare say they'd complain if he went to Texas and started wading around in the floodwaters helping the victims...

We'll find out when he gets there. He's on his way.

Osem 29-08-2017 13:57

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35914401)
We'll find out when he gets there. He's on his way.

Wonder if AF1 is equipped with waders for him. He'll be damned either way.

Damien 29-08-2017 14:09

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I don't Trump has done anything wrong in this case, although calling out Mexico on the wall after they've offered assistance in Texas is a needlessly undiplomatic, it's most of the rest of it that's the problem. That he doesn't cause controversial on a visit to flood victims is a low standard to shoot for.

Mick 31-08-2017 22:31

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President Trump, stumps up $1 Million of his own personal money to Storm Harvey Relief efforts.

http://news.sky.com/story/trump-to-d...house-11014774

Hugh 31-08-2017 22:38

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Good for him.

Mick 31-08-2017 23:12

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No, good for the victims Hugh.

Harvey Storm death toll stands at currently 31.

1andrew1 31-08-2017 23:28

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35914801)
No, good for the victims Hugh.
Harvey Storm death toll stands at currently 31.

Although every death is tragic, the difference in scale between those killed in Houston (31) and SE Asia (1,200) is staggering.
I feel dreadfully sorry for everyone concerned in both situations well and also congratulate Trump on his donation.

Mick 01-09-2017 00:25

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35914804)
Although every death is tragic, the difference in scale between those killed in Houston (31) and SE Asia (1,200) is staggering.
I feel dreadfully sorry for everyone concerned in both situations well and also congratulate Trump on his donation.

Yes, it's equally sad about the Asia flooding. There was some criticism towards the media for their heavy coverage of the Texas flooding but the SE Asia flooding ng has had very little if what sporadic media coverage.

denphone 01-09-2017 05:21

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35914798)
President Trump, stumps up $1 Million of his own personal money to Storm Harvey Relief efforts.

http://news.sky.com/story/trump-to-d...house-11014774

That l do applaud.:tu:

Damien 01-09-2017 06:32

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35914799)
Good for him.

Yup a nice donation.

Damien 04-09-2017 21:33

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Not confirmed yet, still might 'change his mind', but it appears Trump is looking the end the Dream act. https://www.recode.net/2017/9/4/1624...ented-deported

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Defying a chorus of corporate executives and critics in Congress, President Donald Trump is expected to announce on Tuesday that he will roll back protections that spare children brought to the United States illegally from being deported.

But Trump reportedly will only begin enforcing the change in policy after a 6-month delay. It’s unclear how that might work, but it could give Congress some time to decide whether to turn the Obama-era program — called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA — into law.


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